Pick it Apart One Last Time

Guys,

I’ve been working with a few people on here to come up with some ideas of my next run. After listening to a few different ideas, here’s what I’ve come up with:

Weeks 1-12: Test E @ 600mg/week
Weeks 1-10: Tren E @ 300mg/week lowered to 250mg/week if sides are unbearable
Weeks 5-8: Dbol @ 40mg/day, will decrease to 30mg/day if back pumps are terrible.
Weeks 1-12 Arimidex @ 0.25mg ED, increased as needed.
Weeks 1-10 Dostinex @ 1mg week, dosed twice a week or E3D

Weeks 17-20 Test E @ 100mg/week
Weeks 21-25 Test E @ 80/60/60/40/20
Weeks 17-25 Arimidex @ 0.25mg EOD, tapering off completely the last few weeks.

I’m running the dbol during the time when sufficient levels of the TE and TRE have built up, increasing the synergistic effect of all three.

I’m dropping the TRE at week 10 to just run straight TE and allow time for the TRE to dissipate from my blood.

Dostinex (caber) and Arimidex will be used to keep estrogen and prolactin levels in check.

No SERM (clomid and Nolva) will be used during PCT. J-J, feel free to pick this apart.

I will be using 23g/1.5"/3ml pins for pinning.

Well, without further ado, pick away!

I wont be able to give better advice than others…

However, even if you’re not planning on using a SERM as PCT, it’s probably a good idea to have letro on hand in case of any gyno issues.

You didn’t mention whether you had it or not, so I thought it might be worth saying.

Weeks 15 and 16?

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I wont be able to give better advice than others…

However, even if you’re not planning on using a SERM as PCT, it’s probably a good idea to have letro on hand in case of any gyno issues.

You didn’t mention whether you had it or not, so I thought it might be worth saying.[/quote]

He has arimidex. That’s sufficient.

I think you confused letro for nolva btw.

Yes, arimidex and the caber are on hand to control gyno and prolactin gyno.

Weeks 13-16 are off to allow exogeneous test levels to reach 100mg.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
rrjc5488 wrote:
I wont be able to give better advice than others…

However, even if you’re not planning on using a SERM as PCT, it’s probably a good idea to have letro on hand in case of any gyno issues.

You didn’t mention whether you had it or not, so I thought it might be worth saying.

He has arimidex. That’s sufficient.

I think you confused letro for nolva btw. [/quote]

You’re right, I did.

Sorry Gundecker!

it’s all good! I’m glad just you gave my post some consideration

[quote]gundecker wrote:
Yes, arimidex and the caber are on hand to control gyno and prolactin gyno.

Weeks 13-16 are off to allow exogeneous test levels to reach 100mg. [/quote]

Looks very good GD expect the 4 week break your weeks 13-16. Thats a much longer time period than Im familiar with using before starting at the 100mg a week stasis dose. Now perhaps you were talked into this idea by an expert vet but here’s my thinking and math.
If in week 12 you put in 600mg as part of a bi weekly injection schedule and if you consider Enanthate to have a 5 day half life than just 10 days after you last shot of 300mg only 75mg of that test will still be in your system. If you calculate out the ester weight then its just 54mg or so. That is truly the level of a normal guy. Now admittedly there is the surplus of previous injections. But my point remains the same. I personally dont take 4 weeks off. Myself if I run 1G a week lets say [500mg twice a week], after my last shot of 500mg I will wait about 7-10days before starting with 50mg shots twice a week. Now perhaps Im early and jumping the gun and my levels have not dwindled down to 100mg but I’d rather be early than late coming off.

Bottom Line: Instead of taking off weeks 13-16 I’d cut that down to 13 & 14 at most probably just week 13 myself. However if Bushy, JJ and Cortes all tell you something different go with that

For some reason, I was thinking of the Cypionate ester that I used last time. So I should just take off only week 13 and begin the 100mg stasis period for weeks 14-17? And then the taper for weeks 18-22?

Also, as I read it, caber should be administered to prevent prolactin gyno, correct? Not when prolactin gyno arises.

The reason I ask is because some dose arimidex only when they need it. However, this may lead to some estrogen feedback, if I’m not mistaken. Then, there are those that dose it ED to EOD from beginning to end, tapering off of it near the end.

I want to ensure I properly use the caber I will have since it’s rather expensive and prolactin gyno is a motherfucker.

[quote]gundecker wrote:
For some reason, I was thinking of the Cypionate ester that I used last time. So I should just take off only week 13 and begin the 100mg stasis period for weeks 14-17? And then the taper for weeks 18-22?[/quote]

IMO Yes. BTW Cyp’s ester is only one carbon more so its not even an additional day compared to Enan

I found my log on my last cycle. I waited two weeks before starting the stasis period.

I knew the C and E esters were similar. That is why I took what I read from a thread and applied it to my last cycle, had no problems, so I applied it to this upcoming one.

[quote]gundecker wrote:
I found my log on my last cycle. I waited two weeks before starting the stasis period.

I knew the C and E esters were similar. That is why I took what I read from a thread and applied it to my last cycle, had no problems, so I applied it to this upcoming one.[/quote]

Thats fine. IMO though 4 is too long a wait

Cool…

How should I dose the caber? When needed? Or dose it regularly as a precautionary ancillary?

[quote]gundecker wrote:
Cool…

How should I dose the caber? When needed? Or dose it regularly as a precautionary ancillary?[/quote]

Do you have any history of nor19 prolactin gyno? If not you could chance it. If you wanna take 1mg a week in two .5mg doses that’d be fine too. It will not hurt anything at all. In fact it might enhance your sexual experiences.

I’ve never ran deca or tren to be susceptible to prolactin gyno, Saps. I think I’ll just dose it like you mentioned just to be on the safe side. Will the 1mg/week be enough though???

[quote]gundecker wrote:
I’ve never ran deca or tren to be susceptible to prolactin gyno, Saps. I think I’ll just dose it like you mentioned just to be on the safe side. Will the 1mg/week be enough though???[/quote]

Its the common starter dose just the .25ml of adex would yes. 99% says you wont get prolactin gyno with 1mg of caber a week