Long story short: Ran an ~16 week 500mg/wk Test only cycle. I now have to come off for work reasons. I DO NOT have any HCG, but I do have Nolva, Adex, and Clomid. What would you guys recommend? I’ve looked through several threads and most seem to call for HCG.
Also, what could I take to help with any libido loss?
HCG is suppressive to the reestablishment of LH and FSH during PCT. HCG is effective at 250iu EOD during cycle to keep testes firing, thus keeping them ready for action in PCT instead of having to be kick started.
Go with at leat 4 weeks Nolva 40/40/20/20 and possibly Clomid too. If you have time for a test stasis/taper or stasis before your SERM PCT that may assist a lot after such a long cycle.
Uh no, most threads in here don’t call for hCG during PCT. hCG is put to far better use at low dose while ON cycle, to maintain sensitivity where it matters in the face of declining LH production. Used in post-cycle, it actually hinders the body’s response to LH.
Assuming you ran enan or cyp, I’d start nolva 2 weeks after the last injection. Run it 40/40/20/20.
Just for my education i must ask, would 4 weeks nolva be enough after such a long cycle? Would running it for 6 weeks or at higher doses be an option? What about nolva and clomid together? I’m starting to realiose why prisoner invinted his stasis-taper!
OP - You came off after 16 weeks due to work? How long were you planning on staying on???
[quote]G.I. Joe Galway wrote:
Just for my education i must ask, would 4 weeks nolva be enough after such a long cycle? Would running it for 6 weeks or at higher doses be an option? What about nolva and clomid together? I’m starting to realiose why prisoner invinted his stasis-taper!
OP - You came off after 16 weeks due to work? How long were you planning on staying on???[/quote]
Until my gains were negligible. I’m a believer in Louie Simmons’ philosophy lol
I was also wondering what Galways was: would I need to use something other than Nolva? and would I need to take it for longer?
Nolva, clomid, torem… whatever you prefer, really. I wouldn’t bump up the dose.
Running a SERM for longer than 4 weeks might be a good idea. You could go 6+ weeks if you feel it necessary for recovery.
[quote]whotookmyname wrote:
Nolva, clomid, torem… whatever you prefer, really. I wouldn’t bump up the dose.
Running a SERM for longer than 4 weeks might be a good idea. You could go 6+ weeks if you feel it necessary for recovery.[/quote]
Ok. You think something like 40/40/40/20/20/20 instead of 40/40/20/20?
[quote]doworkson wrote:
OP - You came off after 16 weeks due to work? How long were you planning on staying on???
Until my gains were negligible. I’m a believer in Louie Simmons’ philosophy lol[/quote]
You should start reading more and enlighten yourself.
I know who Louis Simmons is but I have never heard of “Louie Simmons’s philosophy” so I have no idea if you took it out of context or not. If he really does advocate staying on until gains become unnoticeable, I wonder how many people ever actually come off when following his advice.