[quote]meangenes wrote:
It’s going to create the worlds biggest asshole and we’re all going to be fucked in it.[/quote]
Keep bulking. You’ll get there.
Edit: Shit I thought you wrote “I’m going to create…”
Now I am the asshole.
The ‘2012’ bit was a joke. I don’t know when the thing will go full bore. I guess it was like the joke about the ceiling…its over your heads. ;D
I thought that the 2012 thing just signified a change of epochs or something in their religion?
Didn’t we infer ‘doomsday’ from that?
there are several particle accelerators that already exist today. why is this one any different. The quantity of matter that gets smashed is so small it wouldn’t have an affect on the earth i would imagine.
[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
Hey guys - a physics dude here (as in, I have a degree, not in ‘I read lots of books’).
A black hole is formed by something MASSIVE ripping through space-time, a singularity. This collider will create many, many particles and antiparticles, but the mass is going to be super-small.
I think where the idea of ‘black hole’ comes from in these articles and such is the fact that, when a particle and an anti-particle meet, they annihilate each other.
Now, that’s where people get a bit freaked out - they think “Holy crap! Chain reaction! Eating the earth!”…but that’s not the case.
You run out of anti-matter, your ‘normal’ matter just stays as it is.
These experiments aren’t going to create any huge amounts of anti-matter…it’s like onesy-twoesy, but more regularly than we see in nature.
This is what happens ‘all the time’…it’s not really a ‘black hole’ that’s occurring - it’s an annihilation of particles.
Now, that annihilation, bang-for-your-buck-wise, is HUGE on the amount of energy it gives off, but it’s all relative to the scale we’re talking.
…and, we’re talking about the STUFF that makes up the STUFF that makes up the ELECTRONS that orbit the nuclei of the STUFF that makes up the cells that make US up…so it’s SMALL, er, Stuff!
In space, the freaky thing is, is that ‘quantum fluctuations’, aka, weird (but predicted) energy occurences that APPEAR to be out of the nothing of space (I’m not gonna dig into here causes ‘pairs’ of particles (matter and antimatter) to be created out of nothing…but guess what? They instantly annihilate.
That’s why you have to accelerate specific atoms at each other, and then hope to pull one off of the other or just at least record what happens before they go ‘poof’ in the blink of an eye (faster, of course).
That’s a nice thing, since we want to converse the Law of Conversation of Matter (aka energy).
Now, the only other times I’ve heard the combination of the two is when some theoretical guy said "WHAT IF (uhoh) in space, one of these pairs sprung into existence RIGHT on the edge of a black hole, and the one particle got sucked in before it annihilated it’s partner? Did we just see the laws of physics break?
Well, this collider could tell us about what would happen then. Odds are it’s just summed into the entropy of the system (aka, the universe).
Hope that helped a bit.
(and, since it was brought up, I’m also a Christian and have no issues believing in God as the being that created all this coolness.)
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I can’t wait until I get into this crazy physics stuff later. (PHYSICS FTW!)
Its in switzerland and its a private company who is footing the bill.
The only way the “world will end” is if it explodes i doubt it will the end of the world
BUT they have been doing their homework i have no doubts they know what they are doing.
Bad thing is, if this technology is used for weapons atoms bombs PALE in comparison to the damage these could do
YIKES !
Already made a thread about this a while back
[quote]Corkonian wrote:
its a private company who is footing the bill.
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Incorrect
So after all this you are telling me France is safe?
Damn.
[quote]Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Corkonian wrote:
its a private company who is footing the bill.
Incorrect
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Really who is footing the bill so ???
And yes France should be safe
You have to find another way to exterminate the frogs
Ah i found it :
BTW Switzerland are contributing only a tiny portion of the budget for CERN. The UK, France and Germany are bearing most of the financial burden.
I thought France and Switzerland were not paying for this particular venture ???
Or maybe i am totally off base here …
But anyway i think they may put a live footage on the CERN website, will be fucking cool to watch even if it “looks” like nothing is happening.
Fucking love Science
Also
Looks like they hitting some problems
[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
I thought that the 2012 thing just signified a change of epochs or something in their religion?
Didn’t we infer ‘doomsday’ from that?[/quote]
The theory of 2012 has been debated a lot. It’s a very prevalent day within different religions and scientific beliefs alike. There are some conflicting views about it, thought. Some believe we’re actually going into the final epoch on December 21, 2012. Others, myself include, think that we’ll all diiiiieeeee!
[quote]SSC wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
I thought that the 2012 thing just signified a change of epochs or something in their religion?
Didn’t we infer ‘doomsday’ from that?
The theory of 2012 has been debated a lot. It’s a very prevalent day within different religions and scientific beliefs alike. There are some conflicting views about it, thought. Some believe we’re actually going into the final epoch on December 21, 2012. Others, myself include, think that we’ll all diiiiieeeee![/quote]
I am actually starting to read a book full of essays from different people on their perception on 2012. Full of interesting opinions.
17 hours to go
[quote]Corkonian wrote:
Regular Gonzalez wrote:
Corkonian wrote:
its a private company who is footing the bill.
Incorrect
Really who is footing the bill so ???
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I’m a graduate student working on one of the two big detectors at the LHC (the CMS detector for those who care). It’s interesting to see the take of people outside the small pen they keep us students locked up in…
We actually go full capacity in early 2009. The first beam will be in the machine at the end of August at around 3/4 of the final beam energy, followed by a shutdown over the winter holidays and then starting up again at full power.
The biggest difference between the LHC and previous colliders is the collision energy. We will be at 14 TeV (Tera-electron-volts for those not in with the jargon). The current most energetic collider is at Fermi National Laboratory here in Chicago at 2 TeV.
Funding is complicated but most of the money comes from various government agencies of the countries involved (including the U.S. Dept. of Energy).