[quote]LiftSmart wrote:
A project leader said that the chances of a catastrophe are like 1/100,000,000
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So you’re telling me there’s a chance? Yeah! I read ya.
Not to worry — it won’t be brought up to full power until December 2012.
Fire that puppy up already, though I wish the odds were more like 1/100 to make things more interesting.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Not to worry — it won’t be brought up to full power until December 2012.[/quote]
Hmmm 2012 exactly when the world was predicted to end, interesting.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Okay, so maybe it’s been discussed before, and I don’t have any great links or sources to an article concerning the subject, but has anyone heard of this shit?
I heard about it a while ago, but recently heard that they’re booting it up in August, with it being funtional in October. It’s some thing where they shoot protons at neutrons faster than the speed of light and the speed of sound. It’s being developed, I believe, underground in a European country.
Positives:
If it works, it gives us incredible new insight into technology, and potentially different dimensions.
Negatives:
It creates a black hole and we all die instantaneously.
Anyone know what I’m talking about here? I’m down with science, but this is just wreckless.[/quote]
We’ll be fine.
All this theory really hurts my head.
The idea that two groups of little tiny things traveling extremely fast and then whacking together could prove that there are multiple dimensions is beyond me.
I say, just let me know when I can travel to another planet or buy a gun that produces a mini black hole.
Oh and does anyone else find it funny that our little rover on mars can’t even tell us if there used to be life there, yet me have this machine that may tell us that there are multiple dimensions and/or kill us all?
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
A project leader said that the chances of a catastrophe are like 1/100,000,000
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So you’re telling me there’s a chance? Yeah! I read ya.
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If we could only hear the conversation between Lloyd and Harry about this particle accelerator…
It’s going to create the worlds biggest asshole and we’re all going to be fucked in it.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
All this theory really hurts my head.
The idea that two groups of little tiny things traveling extremely fast and then whacking together could prove that there are multiple dimensions is beyond me.
I say, just let me know when I can travel to another planet or buy a gun that produces a mini black hole.
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Weird and mind bending stuff indeed.
I’m just excited that there may be one enourmous kaboom! That and France gets it before I do in the UK.
Hey guys - a physics dude here (as in, I have a degree, not in ‘I read lots of books’).
A black hole is formed by something MASSIVE ripping through space-time, a singularity. This collider will create many, many particles and antiparticles, but the mass is going to be super-small.
I think where the idea of ‘black hole’ comes from in these articles and such is the fact that, when a particle and an anti-particle meet, they annihilate each other.
Now, that’s where people get a bit freaked out - they think “Holy crap! Chain reaction! Eating the earth!”…but that’s not the case.
You run out of anti-matter, your ‘normal’ matter just stays as it is.
These experiments aren’t going to create any huge amounts of anti-matter…it’s like onesy-twoesy, but more regularly than we see in nature.
This is what happens ‘all the time’…it’s not really a ‘black hole’ that’s occurring - it’s an annihilation of particles.
Now, that annihilation, bang-for-your-buck-wise, is HUGE on the amount of energy it gives off, but it’s all relative to the scale we’re talking.
…and, we’re talking about the STUFF that makes up the STUFF that makes up the ELECTRONS that orbit the nuclei of the STUFF that makes up the cells that make US up…so it’s SMALL, er, Stuff!
In space, the freaky thing is, is that ‘quantum fluctuations’, aka, weird (but predicted) energy occurences that APPEAR to be out of the nothing of space (I’m not gonna dig into here causes ‘pairs’ of particles (matter and antimatter) to be created out of nothing…but guess what? They instantly annihilate.
That’s why you have to accelerate specific atoms at each other, and then hope to pull one off of the other or just at least record what happens before they go ‘poof’ in the blink of an eye (faster, of course).
That’s a nice thing, since we want to converse the Law of Conversation of Matter (aka energy).
Now, the only other times I’ve heard the combination of the two is when some theoretical guy said "WHAT IF (uhoh) in space, one of these pairs sprung into existence RIGHT on the edge of a black hole, and the one particle got sucked in before it annihilated it’s partner? Did we just see the laws of physics break?
Well, this collider could tell us about what would happen then. Odds are it’s just summed into the entropy of the system (aka, the universe).
Hope that helped a bit.
(and, since it was brought up, I’m also a Christian and have no issues believing in God as the being that created all this coolness.)
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
All this theory really hurts my head.
The idea that two groups of little tiny things traveling extremely fast and then whacking together could prove that there are multiple dimensions is beyond me.
I say, just let me know when I can travel to another planet or buy a gun that produces a mini black hole.
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Nothing bad will happen. The Michelson-Morley experiment actually showed that either (a) the earth is completely motionless and the universe goes around us (which matches the Bible) or (b) that the speed of light doesn’t change, no matter what your frame.
The reason Einstein never found a Unified Field Theory was because he chose (b) above.
It therefore follows that the results of turning on the giant accelerator in 2012 will be…nada…zip…zed…
[quote]Split wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Not to worry — it won’t be brought up to full power until December 2012.
Hmmm 2012 exactly when the world was predicted to end, interesting.[/quote]
Ditto.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=2012&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
I just searched google again for “2012” shitloads of “World Ending” stuff is all over it. And… there is even one claiming December 21, 2012. Isn’t that convenient…
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
CrewPierce wrote:
All this theory really hurts my head.
The idea that two groups of little tiny things traveling extremely fast and then whacking together could prove that there are multiple dimensions is beyond me.
I say, just let me know when I can travel to another planet or buy a gun that produces a mini black hole.
Nothing bad will happen. The Michelson-Morley experiment actually showed that either (a) the earth is completely motionless and the universe goes around us (which matches the Bible) or (b) that the speed of light doesn’t change, no matter what your frame.
The reason Einstein never found a Unified Field Theory was because he chose (b) above.
It therefore follows that the results of turning on the giant accelerator in 2012 will be…nada…zip…zed…
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So how much antimatter do you think will be created by taking tiny particles and ramming them at one another? We’re not talking particles with the mass of a black hole here.
We’ll still be here in 2012. Don’t worry. And stop reading paranoid websites.
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
Split wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Not to worry — it won’t be brought up to full power until December 2012.
Hmmm 2012 exactly when the world was predicted to end, interesting.
Ditto.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=2012&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
I just searched google again for “2012” shitloads of “World Ending” stuff is all over it. And… there is even one claiming December 21, 2012. Isn’t that convenient…[/quote]
Um, I can google search “Dog Overlord Conspiracy” and probably get some responses that line up with 2012 as well…doesn’t mean it’s true.
2012 is tied to the Mayan calendar and LONG before there were supercolliders that date was known. (december 21st is the winter solstice, btw)
But come on, it’s no different than people freaking out about Y2K.
[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Oh and does anyone else find it funny that our little rover on mars can’t even tell us if there used to be life there, yet me have this machine that may tell us that there are multiple dimensions and/or kill us all?[/quote]
That’s because physics is so much more straight forward than biology. Just defining life is a pain in the ass.
[quote]LightsOutLuthor wrote:
(and, since it was brought up, I’m also a Christian and have no issues believing in God as the being that created all this coolness.)
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I’m sorry to hear that. There is probably some medication you can take to fix that 
[quote]Flop Hat wrote:
LightsOutLuthor wrote:
(and, since it was brought up, I’m also a Christian and have no issues believing in God as the being that created all this coolness.)
I’m sorry to hear that. There is probably some medication you can take to fix that ;)[/quote]
Nice.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
A project leader said that the chances of a catastrophe are like 1/100,000,000
…
So you’re telling me there’s a chance? Yeah! I read ya.
If we could only hear the conversation between Lloyd and Harry about this particle accelerator…[/quote]
I am glad someone got the reference.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
LiftSmart wrote:
A project leader said that the chances of a catastrophe are like 1/100,000,000
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So you’re telling me there’s a chance? Yeah! I read ya.
If we could only hear the conversation between Lloyd and Harry about this particle accelerator…
I am glad someone got the reference.[/quote]
Zap, we must be separated at birth…you speak in movie quote!