[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Darnell Becker wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Darnell Becker wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[quote]Darnell Becker wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]Bismark wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Chushin wrote:
[i]The Obama administration is having trouble detecting fraud in asylum requests from immigrants seeking to stay in the United States for their protection, according to a government study released Wednesday.
The GAO review found that more than 4,500 people were awarded asylum in 2014 despite being associated with lawyers or document preparers arrested that same year in an immigration fraud investigation in New York.[/i]
http://news.yahoo.com/study-finds-problems-detecting-fraud-among-asylum-seekers-211600842.html[/quote]
Sorry, but I don’t believe this. Bistrolita has assured me thorough vetting is taking place in all instances and…he knows stuff.
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Asylum seekers are not refugees. The latter status is conferred by the UNHCR. The designated refugees are then vetted extensively by the intelligence community. The process took two years before the Paris attacks. The link Chushin provided concerns illegal immigrants who are requesting political asylum.
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I am not concerned about the refugees as much as some others may be. What’s at issue in my book is why regional players are not taking in or playing any role in helping the people of their region. There is plenty of money and space in the Gulf States. There is no language barrier or cultural barrier, at least not to the extent it is for Europe and the U.S. I say we demand the regional states take in these refugees and if their are still refugees left, the U.S. can go ahead and pitch in and help. Europe and the U.S. should not the the first and second choices for Syrian refugees. We should be the last resort when Qatar, Oman, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt has done all they could.
The majority of these refugees are muslims and other muslims in their region are turning their backs on them. They should be ashamed, but they have no shame, they are all just assholes.[/quote]
Taken from another forum. Someone else wrote this, and I agree. Food for thought.
"Non-democratic countries are not equipped to handle refugees, either culturally or economically.
The Gulf states have plenty of oil money, but they also already have plenty of low wage domestic workers and imported workers from Asia and they also have plenty of domestic workers with high skills and degrees. And from a cultural standpoint, you should know by now that ethnic and interreligious strife in the Middle East dwarfs anything comparable in Europe. If one of the Muslim states did accept them, it would be a disaster like Lebanon has been over the past 40 years. Just because they are all Muslim doesn’t mean it’s going to be Kumbaya when they get there. So consequently a country like Iran taking in these refugees would be pure charity with little economic benefit and would create cultural problems that never existed before.
Democratic countries are different for the exact reason Gulf states couldn’t handle them. Sweden needs low wage workers, they need the demographic increases the Syrian immigrants can provide, they will benefit from refugees who will produce kids who thrive in a democratic society. That’s similar to what Muslim immigrants have done in the United States and Germany. Do you really think Sweden is accepting these refugees out of the kindness of their hearts, as a pure welfare block, with no economic benefit to their country?
And as far as the cultural aspect goes, there are not enough of refugees being taken in to cause the demographic shifts that would cause that kind of strife. The small percentage of immigrants combined with exposure to social democratic society like Sweden or a classically liberal society like the United States ensures those problems don’t arise. It could be argued that there are exceptions to this rule, like France. But France has a bunch of baggage related to Algeria, Mali, and other Muslim countries that places like Germany do not."
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And that makes them OUR responsibility?
What planet are you on?
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In the planet of reason, you should travel here one day.
I just posted some reasons for why refugees would choose Europe over the Gulf states, what the fuck are you babbling about? Who said anything about YOUR responsability? Can you even read?
Even though I didn’t write that post, that is my thinking as well. [/quote]
Sorry, I have difficulty comprehending bullshit.
Oh, and who cares what they “would choose?”
It’s our “responsability” (sic) to worry about US.
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Who is US? 'Murica? Mankind? Christians?
Listen man I get it. You think they should rot in some camp like the sand mulinyanis that they are. Who cares about muslims right? All they do is blow shit up.
I happen to think some western countries have the capacity to take them and even benefit from them, especially countries who lacks workforce.
Let’s just agree to disagree, I guess.
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First, WTF is 'Murica?
Second, no, you don’t get it, and WTF are you talking about? You should ignore those voices in your head when posting.
Third, nothing to agree about disagreeing about. Your “point” is stupid.
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Chushin, I think he’s addressing us like we’re a bunch of hicks. Or he’s being overtly condecending. What do you make of that?