Paris Attacks

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Anybody else find it interesting that they are baiting a bunch of nuclear capable countries into the same region?
I do. I bet that this whole campaign is one big set up to a nuclear incident.[/quote]

The most powerful states in the international system also happen to be nuclear ones. 4/9 isn’t bad though. There’s not an iota of evidence that suggests that, nor is there a cogent analytical framework that makes such an event within the realm of possibility short of nuclear terrorism. [/quote]
Oh! So all of the worry since the disbanding of the ussr and the possibility of weapon grade materials falling into the hands of terrorists was for naught.
Whew! Thats a relief. Cuz you said so.
Now tell me something that you know about that region that is first hand fact.
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Histrionics don’t make an argument. Paint me a picture of ISIL’s grand strategy to provoke “a nuclear incident.”

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

The Lord’s Resistance Army would have been a better analogy. That Christianist terrorist organization is responsible for the deaths of over 100,000 people. [/quote]

So let’s give THEM some guns and turn them on the Muslims![/quote]

The Muslims. Of course. I forget about the monolythic Islamic hive mind. I sincerely hope you’re joking.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Obama; “When the Barbarians are at the gate, it’s inhumane not to grant them asylum. I find it offensive and contrary to American values to keep out those who have dreams to kill”.[/quote]

The Romans were doomed when they let the Ostrogoths settle in their territory.
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The real threat comes from the foreign fighters that emigrate to the Islamic State and return, not refugees.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

Oh! So all of the worry since the disbanding of the ussr and the possibility of weapon grade materials falling into the hands of terrorists was for naught.

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Damn, if that’s true, the Ukrainians are kicking themselves about now!![/quote]

Russia would have likely still seized Crimea had Ukraine been a nuclear weapons state. I believe they would have stopped at that, however.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Anybody else find it interesting that they are baiting a bunch of nuclear capable countries into the same region?
I do. I bet that this whole campaign is one big set up to a nuclear incident.[/quote]

The most powerful states in the international system also happen to be nuclear ones. 4/9 isn’t bad though. There’s not an iota of evidence that suggests that, nor is there a cogent analytical framework that makes such an event within the realm of possibility short of nuclear terrorism. [/quote]
Oh! So all of the worry since the disbanding of the ussr and the possibility of weapon grade materials falling into the hands of terrorists was for naught.
Whew! Thats a relief. Cuz you said so.
Now tell me something that you know about that region that is first hand fact.
[/quote]

Histrionics don’t make an argument make. Paint me a picture of ISIL’s grand strategy to provoke “a nuclear incident.”[/quote]
Neither does the redundant use of the word make.
So, about that first hand information on the middle east…
You dont have any, do you?

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Anybody else find it interesting that they are baiting a bunch of nuclear capable countries into the same region?
I do. I bet that this whole campaign is one big set up to a nuclear incident.[/quote]

The most powerful states in the international system also happen to be nuclear ones. 4/9 isn’t bad though. There’s not an iota of evidence that suggests that, nor is there a cogent analytical framework that makes such an event within the realm of possibility short of nuclear terrorism. [/quote]
Oh! So all of the worry since the disbanding of the ussr and the possibility of weapon grade materials falling into the hands of terrorists was for naught.
Whew! Thats a relief. Cuz you said so.
Now tell me something that you know about that region that is first hand fact.
[/quote]

Histrionics don’t make an argument make. Paint me a picture of ISIL’s grand strategy to provoke “a nuclear incident.”[/quote]
Neither does the redundant use of the word make.
So, about that first hand information on the middle east…
You dont have any, do you?[/quote]

You’re done with your cut-rate Tom Clancy novel? You want to attempt to denigrate me when you don’t have so much as a rudimentary understanding of the geopolitics of the region?

I was impressed with the products of Middle Eastern breweries, and Lebanese women are among the most beautiful in the world. They pair quite nicely. My Arabic is still shit. Worth every penny I saved while washing dishes in my undergrad.

In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS

[quote]Bismark wrote:
In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/[/quote]

When you drill-down into these numbers you’ve provided, things aren’t so clear cut as the title implies.

First of all, major backers of ISIS are missing from the survey - Saudis, Qataris etc.

Secondly, 20% of Nigerian Muslims have a favorable view of them. Multiply than by the Nigerian Muslim population in the north of the country and add the common survey bias that people are less likely to openly express their views regarding “controversial” topics and you get quite a number.

Also, the staggering number of Pakistanis (62%) have no opinion of the matter, which is frankly very strange (see my previous sentence).

Palestine’s numbers in the survey can be explained by their historical links to Baathists whom at different points in the 20th century their perceived as champions of the Palestinian cause in the ME.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

I was impressed with the products of Middle Eastern breweries, and Lebanese women are among the most beautiful in the world. They pair quite nicely. My Arabic is still shit. Worth every penny I saved while washing dishes in my undergrad.[/quote]

Can’t argue with this. Lebanese women are indeed staggeringly beautiful, almost on par with Iranian women.

That’s especially the case in France, where the general atmosphere somehow brings out some additional charm from them.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Honduras arrests 5 Syrian refugees headed to the US using stolen passports.

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Women and children, obviously, right?[/quote]

The Paris attackers who have been identified have all been European. Foreign fighters returning home is the real danger, not refugees.

Let’s play guess who said it.

“The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends . . . Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists.”

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Anybody else find it interesting that they are baiting a bunch of nuclear capable countries into the same region?
I do. I bet that this whole campaign is one big set up to a nuclear incident.[/quote]

The most powerful states in the international system also happen to be nuclear ones. 4/9 isn’t bad though. There’s not an iota of evidence that suggests that, nor is there a cogent analytical framework that makes such an event within the realm of possibility short of nuclear terrorism. [/quote]
Oh! So all of the worry since the disbanding of the ussr and the possibility of weapon grade materials falling into the hands of terrorists was for naught.
Whew! Thats a relief. Cuz you said so.
Now tell me something that you know about that region that is first hand fact.
[/quote]

Histrionics don’t make an argument make. Paint me a picture of ISIL’s grand strategy to provoke “a nuclear incident.”[/quote]
Neither does the redundant use of the word make.
So, about that first hand information on the middle east…
You dont have any, do you?[/quote]

You’re done with your cut-rate Tom Clancy novel? You want to attempt to denigrate me when you don’t have so much as a rudimentary understanding of the geopolitics of the region?

I was impressed with the products of Middle Eastern breweries, and Lebanese women are among the most beautiful in the world. They pair quite nicely. My Arabic is still shit. Worth every penny I saved while washing dishes in my undergrad.[/quote]
No denigration intended.
And thats a no on pertinent info.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

The Muslims. Of course. I forget about the monolythic Islamic hive mind. I sincerely hope you’re joking.[/quote]

The extremists, ok?

I don’t know about a monolithic Islamic hive mind, but it seems to be the case if we offend Muslims sitting on the fence straddled between moderation and extremism. Right? You always are saying our infidel kafir thoughts, words, and actions can suddenly turn moderates into terrorists.

Joke about hive minds all you want. You think of them as mindless zombies!

[quote]Bismark wrote:

The real threat comes from the foreign fighters that emigrate to the Islamic State and return, not refugees.[/quote]

So it’s not plausible in any way, shape or form that the foreign fighters can infiltrate back into Western society in a stream of refugees? That could never happen? Really? So with all the migrants marching through Europe, a terrorist would find another way to re-enter a country? Because a refugee could NEVER be a terrorist, right?

[quote]Bismark wrote:
In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/[/quote]

So where do all these disgruntled youth who grow up to be suicide bombers come from? Converts? Who’s arming and paying for ISIS? Non-muslims?

[quote]Bismark wrote:

The Paris attackers who have been identified have all been European. Foreign fighters returning home is the real danger, not refugees. [/quote]

That’s ONE case.

So I guess that means it could NEVER happen.

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Let’s play guess who said it.

“The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends . . . Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists.”[/quote]

Bush. Now want me to give you a quote from Nasrallah to prove Hezbollah are a group of great guys?