[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
^ That MAY be for some in ISIS, but I view all these stains of radical Islam all cut from the same cloth, headed of course by the MB. ISIS is the MBs wild step-kid. Just like Al-Queda, BH, and the next more radical group next decade. All these bastards want one thing: world submission to Islam.
But MB is the wizard behind the curtain. [/quote]
This thread concerns the Paris attacks, and thus ISIL. ISILâs âstated strategyâ is not what you asserted it to be. Al Queda? Is that the Spanish speaking off-shoot of al-Qaida?
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LOL. Good one! Gotta admit, need to brush up on my Arabic. Whereâs Jen Psaki?
[quote]idaho wrote:
According to this source, the alleged âmastermindâ is dead. I am so glad the French drove their Battle Standard through his filthy, fucking heart. He was just your typical piece of shit Muslim terrorist. It doesnât take a âmastermindâ to kill unarmed civilians. I have walked through several open markets after IED blasts and seen the body parts of children laying in the street, all dead because of some piece of shit âholy warriorâ. Fuck them all, kill them all.
The French should soak the body parts of the dead terrorists in hog lard before their cremation or burial. And video it. And post the vid online.
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The Koran makes it clear that such an act would have no theological bearing on the status of âmartyrs.â [/quote]
And?
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It just smacks of the Pershing pork bullet anecdote that has been debunked. It wouldnât serve as a deterrent, but it would be counterproductive. [/quote]
The Holy Prophet (S) said: "That God-Almighty bestows upon a martyr the following seven blessings;
"When the first drop of blood comes out his body all his sins are pardoned.
After martyrdom his head is placed upon the laps of two heavenly maids, who clean off dirt from his face and say -greeting to you, and he too reciprocates their greetings.
They dress him in Heavenly clothes.
The store keeper of Paradise present him different kinds of perfumes and good smells, so that he may select whatever desires.
At the time of martyrdom his place in Paradise is shown to him.
After the martyrdom his soul is addressed -you are free to move in the Paradise wherever you desire.
A martyr is allowed to witness Godâs Beauty, which brings a special sort of comfort for every prophet and martyr."
[quote]idaho wrote:
According to this source, the alleged âmastermindâ is dead.
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Amen. One less truly evil person in the world.
I rarely post in this forum, and didnât know about your familyâs tragedy on 9/11. I just wanted to express my heartfelt condolences. Iâve been thinking about what your mom must feel like having you in these places. Thank you so much for your service. And thanks for your comments awhile back about my daughter and a friend of yours who is away from his family, with his wife and disabled child at home. Some of these military families sacrifice so much to try to make this world a little bit better.
âThousands of airstrikes against ISIL targets have conjured the illusion of progress, but they have produced little in the way of decisive battlefield effects,â Sen. John McCain said Tuesday.
Well, sadly only congress can draw that line. But obama follows the great Bolshevik philosophy of 'Give them just enough not to do anything about it." The democrats are aligned with the republicans, they all want war. BUT, we are conducting military actions, just enough to satisfy the call for obamaâs head by the left as well as the right.
Now air strikes are fine, but they wonât do much if we donât level the place. I know why weâre behind the 8 ball. Their trying to catch up on all the intelligence they failed to get when they were a JV Team. Tactical air strikes work great, if you are supporting ground troops. It doesnât do shit alone. Theyâll just move their munitions in to hospitals.
They hide behind civilians, move them into sensitive places to use our rules of engagement against us. When planes return from sorties with all their ordinances on board, that is just ridiculous. Weâre either at war or weâre not. If not, shut the fuck up and get out of the way.
Obama made his wish list against Syria a long time ago and has gotten exactly zero percent of the goal.
Why is that? Would it make 'em REALLY mad at us or sumthin?[/quote]
The desecration of corpses would be a propaganda coup for ISIL.[/quote]
Not that I support the desecration of corpses idea. Theyâre dead, who cares?
But on the other hand, you know your really PC when you give a shit what the terrorists might think of youâŚ[/quote]
It serves no purpose and plays right into ISILâs metanarrative.
You know YOUâRE really dense when you donât understand how such an act would only serve to feed ISILâs already robust propaganda apparatus. [/quote]
I said I didnât support the notion, FDR. Itâs gross, for one, two it serves zero purpose. Unless they had some highly communicable disease like the plague, then I would support sending the bodies back to Raqqa.
My only point is that we should not adjust our behavior based on the way they may perceive it. And I am not really accusing you of it. I just used your post to make that point, because obama is doing such a thing. Posturing based on what message it sends to the terrorists.
Why is that? Would it make 'em REALLY mad at us or sumthin?[/quote]
No, it would serve as a potent source of propaganda to convince those on the edge that there is a war on Islam, itâs time to pick sides, and to choose holy war on the side of ISIS over a comfortable but maybe boring life in the West.
i.e. more cannon fodder / suicide bombers for the caliphate
Why is that? Would it make 'em REALLY mad at us or sumthin?[/quote]
No, it would serve as a potent source of propaganda to convince those on the edge that there is a war on Islam, itâs time to pick sides, and to choose holy war on the side of ISIS over a comfortable but maybe boring life in the West.
i.e. more cannon fodder / suicide bombers for the caliphate[/quote]
Which actually is their stated strategy, as I documented on the last page. ISIL wants Western Muslims to âapotasizeâ by staying or to emigrate to the Islamic State. The end goal? Ushering in the apocalypse by dividing the world into the House of Islam and the House of War, the Dar al-Islam and the Dar al-harb.
Why is that? Would it make 'em REALLY mad at us or sumthin?[/quote]
The desecration of corpses would be a propaganda coup for ISIL.[/quote]
Not that I support the desecration of corpses idea. Theyâre dead, who cares?
But on the other hand, you know your really PC when you give a shit what the terrorists might think of youâŚ[/quote]
It serves no purpose and plays right into ISILâs metanarrative.
You know YOUâRE really dense when you donât understand how such an act would only serve to feed ISILâs already robust propaganda apparatus. [/quote]
I said I didnât support the notion, FDR. Itâs gross, for one, two it serves zero purpose. Unless they had some highly communicable disease like the plague, then I would support sending the bodies back to Raqqa.
My only point is that we should not adjust our behavior based on the way they may perceive it. And I am not really accusing you of it. I just used your post to make that point, because obama is doing such a thing. Posturing based on what message it sends to the terrorists. [/quote]
The French should waste money shipping corpses back to the enemy who just carried out the atrocity in Paris? Why? So they can be enshrined as martyrs? Their bodies should be disposed of at sea a la Usama bin Laden.
Not ISIL, those that are currently neither with us or against us. Like it or not, propaganda plays a crucial role in counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency campaigns. Calling a spade a spade may be emotionally satisfying, but it is often counterproductive in these contexts. ISIL must not only be defeated militarily, diplomatically, and economically, but in the realm of propaganda as well. Their metanarrative is among their greatest assets. Undermining it and drying up its reserves of potential recruits is essential.
The French should soak the body parts of the dead terrorists in hog lard before their cremation or burial. And video it. And post the vid online.
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I got zero problems with that. None.
Why the hell not? Fight propogranda with propogranda. Remember, these idiots have a 5th century mentality. They will believe they will be denied their virgins. These are impressionable, angry, young cavemen that marry 8-year-old girls.
Flood social media with âTerrorist Burialsâ. Dead terrorists with their beards shaved, with Hog lard, blood, holy water, gay porn mags and vodka. And conducted by a Rabbi.
Simple message. Die and get buried this way, by the Koran you are denied heaven.