Paris Attacks

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

DON’T obey the attackers. You will be taken off and methodically killed.

The proper response in this (or a school shooting or whatever) is to ATTACK EN MASSE.

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What we need is for people to be drilled with this in the same way that they all know to stop, drop, and roll in case they’re on fire. If you’re in a room and a gunman enters, you rush and trample him immediately, without thinking, without hesitating, and as one enormous organism. …

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That’s actually the point of my post. I’m beginning a movement.

Spread the word.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

Every state with a Muslim majority population condemned the attack in the strongest terms…

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Links?[/quote]

Bismark,

Taiqiyya

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
It’s nice to see everyone change their Facebook accounts to French colors. But in two weeks, Americans will be back to Twitter, football and porn. Take our porn or college football away, we will crush ISIS by Christmas.

I’m halfway serious.

Americans are so ignorant, it’s a disgrace. No sense of history or national identity, only care about who Kate Upton is screwing, racism and when are we going to bake cakes for gay couples. We are bitching about the minimum wage, and our enemies are planning maximum carnage.
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This is true, but what’s really infuriating are the people tho think we caused muslims to be violent savages. Those people are not as bad as the savages, but they’re not far behind.

^ WTF is this women smoking. Mike Brown’s mother probably thinks she’s delusional.

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
It’s nice to see everyone change their Facebook accounts to French colors. But in two weeks, Americans will be back to Twitter, football and porn. Take our porn or college football away, we will crush ISIS by Christmas.

I’m halfway serious.

Americans are so ignorant, it’s a disgrace. No sense of history or national identity, only care about who Kate Upton is screwing, racism and when are we going to bake cakes for gay couples. We are bitching about the minimum wage, and our enemies are planning maximum carnage.
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This is true, but what’s really infuriating are the people tho think we caused muslims to be violent savages. Those people are not as bad as the savages, but they’re not far behind.

^ WTF is this women smoking. Mike Brown’s mother probably thinks she’s delusional.
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It’s like this dude. His GOAL is to blow up! WTF?

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
It’s nice to see everyone change their Facebook accounts to French colors. But in two weeks, Americans will be back to Twitter, football and porn. Take our porn or college football away, we will crush ISIS by Christmas.

I’m halfway serious.

Americans are so ignorant, it’s a disgrace. No sense of history or national identity, only care about who Kate Upton is screwing, racism and when are we going to bake cakes for gay couples. We are bitching about the minimum wage, and our enemies are planning maximum carnage.
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This is true, but what’s really infuriating are the people tho think we caused muslims to be violent savages. Those people are not as bad as the savages, but they’re not far behind…

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@ “…people who think we caused the violence…”

My friend spends part of the year in Paris, so I went over on Friday evening to see if any of her friends were effected. She started in about Rumsfeld, Cheney, no WMDs. How we never should have left 400,000 Baathists in Iraq unemployed, stripped of their pensions, but still armed and with military training, and so many of them have become part of ISIL…" In other words, her reaction was mostly about “What did we do to make them hate us, and specifically, what did Republicans do to make them hate us.”

At this point, it’s not seeing the big picture. Muslim Extremists destroyed the World Trade Center BEFORE Iraq. And you can look back and see horrific acts of violence during the Regan and Clinton years. My hubs is reading a book about the French Foreign Legion set in the late 1800’s or early 1900’s, about Muslim jihadists in North Africa. It’s not new, and unfortunately, it’s not a war we will see an end to in our lifetimes.

I guess it’s natural to try to figure out what has made it worse, or has given them power, or whatever but it’s really frustrating to hear people go down the “What did we do to bring this on ourselves?” path.

Where I live the main focus in the media right now is not the people who died in the attacks or the attacks, but the call for everyone to not be ‘‘islamophobic’’ , how we need to bring in more refugees and how the people who start online petition against the intake of refugees are intolerant. It’s our politically correct, multicultural, hypocritical and violent right wing.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

Every state with a Muslim majority population condemned the attack in the strongest terms…

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I have a feeling Bistro will have a tough time substantiating his outlandish claim:

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http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/paris-attacks-reaction-israel-condemns-violence-35200083

http://vnews.mv/53942

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-11/15/c_134818224.htm

http://www.timesofoman.com/article/71683/Oman/Government/Oman-strongly-condemns-Paris-attacks

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Syrias-Assad-says-savage-Paris-attacks-similar-to-what-his-country-is-facing-433021 [He comndemned France’s support of Opposition but called the attacks savage acts of terrorism.]

http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2471675&language=en

http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article57049

I didn’t search the Stans – these are the only ones missing – because I think you’d have to do it in their respective languages (e.g. Niger’s could only be found in French, linked above). Which I don’t feel like figuring out. But Bis looks to be on the money. (I guess I will do literally anything to avoid doing work I get paid to do.)

Edited, twice.

I’m not going to hold your hand and lead you to the public statements of each and every of the 49 Muslim majority heads of states or foreign ministries. They are readily accessible if you take the time and effort to look. Be a big boy. Here’s a few.

Direct quotations on the Paris attacks, either from heads of states or foreign ministries.

Afghanistan - The brutal attacks in Paris prove that global terrorism does not recognize borders. The people of Afghanistan stand with France on this terrible day. Terrorism is a serious threat to the entire world and we are united in the struggle.

Algeria - Algeria strongly condemns these terrorist crimes, which attest, unfortunately once more, to the fact that terrorism is a cross-border scourge.

Azerbaijan - We are extremely angered by this horrible incident, resolutely condemn terror and comprehensively support fight against all its manifestations. In this difficult time our thoughts are with the people of France, with you.

Bangladesh - I am deeply shocked by the series of terrorist attacks in Paris that killed so many innocent people and left many others injured. I along with the people and the government of Bangladesh strongly condemn these acts of terror and stand in solidarity with the people and the government of France.

Indonesia - Terrorism, regardless of form and reason, cannot be tolerated.

Iraq - We condemn and deplore the terrorist attacks in Paris, which emphasize that fighting terrorism calls for international efforts to eliminate it in all countries

Iraqi Kurdistan - It is with great sadness that I learned of the horrific attacks on the people of Paris. I offer the deepest condolences, and the strongest solidarity, of the people of the Kurdistan Region. France has stood resolutely with the Kurdistan Region in our own struggle against terrorism, and we will stand with them in theirs. The challenge of defeating this threat unites so many nations and peoples around the world. It is a struggle between civilization and intolerance and barbarism. Attacks like this are designed to spread fear, but the international community must instead respond with a strengthened resolve. Indeed, this tragedy came one day after a great defeat for Daesh in Sinjar. Terrorism can, and will, be defeated.

Jordan - the king expressed “strong condemnation and indignation at the cowardly terrorist act.”

Kazakhstan - condemns terrorism and extremism in all forms as threats to the international security.

Kuwait - these criminal acts of terrorism … run counter to all teachings of holy faith and humanitarian values.

Kyrgyzstan - Kyrgzstan condemns terrorism in its all forms and supports efforts of the international community in fighting that threat

Malaysia - The PM condemned the “outrageous attacks in Paris on innocent civilians”

Morocco - the king condemned “in the strongest terms, on behalf of the Moroccan people and in my own name, these vile terrorist acts”.

Oman - The sad events in Paris are utterly deplorable. Our sympathy goes to the victims.

Pakistan - The people and government of Pakistan strongly condemn the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris. We stand with them in their hour of grief. We pray for speedy recovery of the injured.

Qatar - strongly condemns these heinous attacks that have struck the French capital causing so many victims

Saudi Arabia - terrorists are not sanctioned by Islam and these acts are contrary to values of mercy it brought to the world.

Sudan - against all religious and human values.

Tajikistan - Tajikistan condemns categorically this inhuman act of a group of criminals

Tunisia - condemned as “barbarous acts”.

Turkey - These attacks are not only aimed at the French people, but also democracy, freedom and universal values; terror has no religion, nation nor any value it represents.

The rest are readily available. I’m not going to hold your hand. Interestingly enough, militant groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, and Jaysh al-Islam also condemned the attacks and extended their condolences.

[quote]Powerpuff wrote:
How we never should have left 400,000 Baathists in Iraq unemployed, stripped of their pensions, but still armed and with military training, and so many of them have become part of ISIL…"
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Actually, this part is completely true. Saddam’s Iraq, like Assad’s Syria, functioned as a bloated socialist economy where minority sunnis were running the show, paid for inefficient make believe work in the government apparatus and the military who were bought off with subsidized prices for gas and basic foodstuffs.

And then you suddenly fire all those sunnis, including hundreds of thousands of pissed of soldiers who in the general chaos absconded with their weapons. Ten years later, they’re naturally part of the nastiest sunni militia around…

Small privileges and a sense of belonging to a powerful minority elite are a BIG motivator, and people will go to great lengths to defend them. The wars in ex-Yugoslavia showed a similar tendency in a different cultural context.

[quote]Aggv wrote:
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Who buys oil from isis? They need to be killed.

Genuinely curious question. Did any muslim nations light up their monuments in French colors? [/quote]

  1. Turkey, an erstwhile US ally, a NATO member country. Since the current US administration went to great lengths to cajole and bribe them into allowing one of their airbases to be used by the US in exchange for a free hand against secular socialist Kurds in Iraq, the “be killed” part is not gonna happen.

  2. None of course. Not even the “enlightened” ones.

[quote]loppar wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
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Genuinely curious question. Did any muslim nations light up their monuments in French colors? [/quote]

  1. None of course. Not even the “enlightened” ones. [/quote]

Malaysia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Kuwait off the top of my head.

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]loppar wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
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Genuinely curious question. Did any muslim nations light up their monuments in French colors? [/quote]

  1. None of course. Not even the “enlightened” ones. [/quote]

Malaysia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Kuwait off the top of my head.[/quote]

I stand corrected, although Egypt added a spin by putting a Russian flag.

Are you sure about Saudi Arabia? I’d guess that, like almost everything else, projecting light beams on a building is haram.

[quote]loppar wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]loppar wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
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Genuinely curious question. Did any muslim nations light up their monuments in French colors? [/quote]

  1. None of course. Not even the “enlightened” ones. [/quote]

Malaysia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Kuwait off the top of my head.[/quote]

I stand corrected, although Egypt added a spin by putting a Russian flag.

Are you sure about Saudi Arabia? I’d guess that, like almost everything else, projecting light beams on a building is haram.
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