[quote]Aaron86 wrote:
if we keep on the track we r on now, we should be ready to welcome full socialism in america. if obama gets re-elected we can see him try to get us there quicker than his first term. GROSS[/quote]
Is Wall Street going to stay revved up like this, under ‘Full Socialism’?
I had to LOL at the recent comment that “the business community hates Obama” oh yeah, they really hate those dividends roll eyes
[quote]ZEB wrote:
And by the way how dare that Obama fellow give up his seat in the Senate to run for President. He served (well sort of served) for only two years before he started running for President.
Ahh…that probably didn’t bother you much huh?
Gee I wonder why?
Smile man life’s too shor to hate someone you don’t even know.[/quote]
That situation is totally different. Obama went from being a junior senator to the President, which theoretically means that he is going to help his original constituents in a new, more powerful way. I don’t think Palin can say that about her fellow Alaskans from her new position in front of a FoxNews teleprompter. And there actually IS the implicit understanding between voters and Congressional candidates that the candidate very well may run for higher office before finishing his/her term in Congress. There is no such understanding when it comes to a governor who resigned a year into her term, at least partially under the cloud of suspicion related to some ethics investigations, to pursue a career as a media cash cow.
A career, by the way, that has given her arguably more visibility at times than any liberal media outlet. Seriously, what liberal pundit has the visibility and reach of Sarah Palin? The fact is that if I’m going to randomly turn on the news and get fed a bunch of horseshit from a biased member of the media, it’s as likely to come from her as it is from anywhere else.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Stop with the bullshit, ZEB. You and I both know that there is no comparison whatsoever to slavery or indentured servitude and essentially living out the life of a contract that you spent millions of other people’s dollars trying to sign. The negative press she was receiving didn’t suddenly appear after her reelection. It was there from the start, and if it effects her ability to govern a state of 600,000 people, how would it effect her ability to govern a country of more than 300 million? If nothing else, I expect foresight and a commitment to the job from politicians, two qualities this episode demonstrated that Palin does not have.
I like how you hide your pitiful argument by couching it in typical catchphrases that play up the victim mentality of people like Palin: left-wing media, Obama rallies, etc. I laugh. I don’t watch any overtly liberal news media, nor do I read it, and I did not and will not vote for the President. The reason I hate Palin is because she is emblematic of many of the problems with the voting electorate and the political system in general. She’s a fucking idiot, plain and simple, and that evaluation has NOTHING to do with my political beliefs. Only someone content to play the victim would see my attacks on her as nothing more than hatred born of liberalism, especially considering I’ve never voted Democrat in my life. But you already knew that because I have to remind you of it every time I make a good point about something that you cannot argue against with any credibility, which is when your natural defense mechanism kicks in and you start accusing everything of being part of some GOP-hating, left-wing media-fed conspiracy against conservatism. It’s a tired act, ZEB. Get a new one.
Your entire defense of her is pathetic and childish. First of all, you cannot just leave your job whenever you want without repercussions in certain cases. When someone just up and quits, that person certainly isn’t going to get a good job recommendation. There’s a reason why prospective employers typically ask if you’ve ever voluntarily quit a job without notice. It’s frowned upon and it’s a sign of immaturity, period. Her resignation wasn’t an in-your-face move to the media, it was to her voters in Alaska. As if I’m supposed to believe for one second that her resignation was part of some master plan to get back at the mythical liberal media establishment, who basically has turned the tables on her alleged plan by simply ignoring her. She’s getting paid to slowly become more and more irrelevant. Nice plan.[/quote]
You don’t like the idea that people can quit their jobs any time they want whether they are hired in the private sector, civil servants, or elected officials? Gee…I don’t hate Obama because he abandoned his constituents in Illinois. Does it count when you quit your elected position for another elected position, or is it just when you quit your elected position to go make millions? Or…is it just when you’re a republican? Or better yet, is it just when you’re Sarah Palin and you hate her anyway? 
Welp…there’s not much you and I can do about that is there? Anyone can quit any time they want. Don’t you lose any sleep over it now.
These Sarah Palin “hatefests” can raise your blood pressure and cause you stress—Let it go man B R E A T H .
LOL…Hey man you can hate her all you want I don’t care in fact I’m enjoying it. Like I said I’m not in love with her either. But I will say that she’s worth a hell of a lot more money than you, or I. Does that make her stupid? Or, does that make you mad? No that’s not it you hated her long before she was worth millions.
Ha ha…Grrr “That Palin…Grrr”
LOL
It’s almost worth putting up with her as a major conservative figure to get to read all the hate that comes from the left.
Good Times!
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Sarah Palin is the Kim Kardashian of politics. She’s good at leveraging her celebrity into big paydays, attracts a certain kind of fan base, but simply is not all that impressive.[/quote]
That pretty much matches my feelings TB. But you have to admit it is entertaining watching the liberals try to throw down on her. She’s not running for anything she is no longer a Governor and every time some dimwitted liberal mentions her name it only raises her poll numbers with the only people that count in her world and that is the millions of conseratives who adore her. When they attack she sells more books, magazine articles, and has more visibility, and in general her worth goes up. In a way she’s turned those who hate her into part of her very own money making machine.
To me it’s worth putting up with her just to see the liberals look like they want to throw up when she speaks.
It would be nice if she moved to Washington, DC. There would be a lot of support for that.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Palin has said it herself;
She is much more effective supporting conservative candidates…firing-up the base…“rallying the faithful”…than she is being a candidate.
And those things really ARE her strengths. (Case in point? The speech you linked to).
I just don’t think that she likes the “rough-and-tumble”, often BRUTAL and divisive aspects of running for, or being in, political office.
We’ll see.
Mufasa[/quote]
This is exactly right.
She has a following, and knows how to rally the troops.
It does not matter if she trashed Romney or not, because whomever the GOP guy is, the base will rally behind him regardless. For as much as they might not like Romney, they like Obama even less.
First of all, Sarah Palin ‘drives Liberals crazy’ about as much as Donald Trump does… most people recognize that she is a clown. The Kim Kardashian comparison was spot-on. There is no depth there, therefore nothing to take seriously, let alone drive us crazy.
Secondly, Sarah Palin’s negative poll numbers are higher than her positives, even with Republicans. Everybody knows that she helped spike McCain’s chances in 2008. She’s basically fading, she’s no longer a regular on Fox News, and rarely in the mainstream media now. She’s becoming about as important as Rudy Giuliani or Donald Trump. If Palin were to enter the presidential race, Liberals would be stoked because she is a polarizing figure who can’t win over independents.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
To me it’s worth putting up with her just to see the liberals look like they want to throw up when she speaks.
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Awesome quote which helps explain why the GOP is floundering now, even though Obama is supposedly vulnerable: It’s a waste of time to throw your support behind something just because you think it will drive the opposition crazy. I already explained that Palin is perceived as a lightweight (even among Republicans) and not a threat, but lets pretend she actually drives Liberals crazy, just for the sake of argument. So what? It accomplishes nothing, it doesn’t actually advance an agenda any further, it sways nobody over to your side. It’s the politics of superficiality. And voters are tired of petty divisiveness, including lots of Republicans. It provides imaginary yuks for the hard-liners, that’s about it. But it’s a losing strategy in the real world, because it shows a lack of substance and a lack of seriousness.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Sarah Palin is the Kim Kardashian of politics. She’s good at leveraging her celebrity into big paydays, attracts a certain kind of fan base, but simply is not all that impressive.[/quote]
That pretty much matches my feelings TB. But you have to admit it is entertaining watching the liberals try to throw down on her. She’s not running for anything she is no longer a Governor and every time some dimwitted liberal mentions her name it only raises her poll numbers with the only people that count in her world and that is the millions of conseratives who adore her. When they attack she sells more books, magazine articles, and has more visibility, and in general her worth goes up. In a way she’s turned those who hate her into part of her very own money making machine.
To me it’s worth putting up with her just to see the liberals look like they want to throw up when she speaks.
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They attack her because…she is RIGHT. It doesn’t matter if a person went to Harvard Law or Wasilla Community College, if they are RIGHT.
She left office because she had over $500,000 in legal bills from defending frivilous lawsuits. A loophole in Alaska law made the governor personally responsible for defending themselves from frivilous lawsuits (there were over 80). The loophole has since been closed.
Democrat criminals won that one…driving a fine moral person from office. They shld burn in Hell for that.
Only Sarah has the moral backbone to safe this country from all the horrible damage that liberalism has inflicted.
LOFL
Rather than getting bogged down as governor (or president) Sarah Palin is far more effective as a private citizen, bring forth her conservative message of abstinence, less spending, and sticking with your commitments.
[quote]K2000 wrote:
Rather than getting bogged down as governor (or president) Sarah Palin is far more effective as a private citizen, bring forth her conservative message of abstinence, less spending, and sticking with your commitments.
;-)[/quote]
Yet, Obama abandon his office as Senator after only two years to run for President. Did the people of Illinois deserve this?
Oh my…
[quote]K2000 wrote:
Rather than getting bogged down as governor (or president) Sarah Palin is far more effective as a private citizen, bring forth her conservative message of abstinence, less spending, and sticking with your commitments.
;-)[/quote]
worked for her and her daughter
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/292001/[/quote]
A part of me cringes each time a smart person posts a link to WND.
PS sarcasm perhaps?
PPS Are you a “Birther”?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Sarah Palin is the Kim Kardashian of politics. She’s good at leveraging her celebrity into big paydays, attracts a certain kind of fan base, but simply is not all that impressive.[/quote]
That pretty much matches my feelings TB. But you have to admit it is entertaining watching the liberals try to throw down on her. She’s not running for anything she is no longer a Governor and every time some dimwitted liberal mentions her name it only raises her poll numbers with the only people that count in her world and that is the millions of conseratives who adore her. When they attack she sells more books, magazine articles, and has more visibility, and in general her worth goes up. In a way she’s turned those who hate her into part of her very own money making machine.
To me it’s worth putting up with her just to see the liberals look like they want to throw up when she speaks.
[/quote]
They attack her because…she is RIGHT. It doesn’t matter if a person went to Harvard Law or Wasilla Community College, if they are RIGHT.
She left office because she had over $500,000 in legal bills from defending frivilous lawsuits. A loophole in Alaska law made the governor personally responsible for defending themselves from frivilous lawsuits (there were over 80). The loophole has since been closed.
Democrat criminals won that one…driving a fine moral person from office. They shld burn in Hell for that.
Only Sarah has the moral backbone to safe this country from all the horrible damage that liberalism has inflicted.
[/quote]
I love this shit. “They should burn in hell for that.” You and the rest of the Christian right would take great pleasure in watching all those who don’t vote the way you do burn in torment forever, correct? This is exactly what’s wrong with the Middle East, and I weep for the future when I imagine an America with people like you tipping the delicate balance of Democracy into a theocracy. There is no hell, you stupid son of a bitch, you’re going exactly where I am when you die, no matter how you die, who kills you, or who the fuck you vote for. Get ready, you ignorant shit, because oblivion is waiting.
Fuck you.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
She makes you wonder how her countrymen could have been foolish enough to put Barack Obama in the White House, and what heâ??s still doing there.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=49464
Our 21st century Cincinnatus…Sarah, the heart and soul of America.[/quote]
Ooo. Another troll. Hi there.
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
A part of me cringes each time a smart person posts a link to WND.
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I’d never heard of WND until I looked it up now. I was looking for an article on Obama and Harvard Law. I already know all about Obama’s background but I can’t post pages from the books I read. This article covers a few of the things I was looking for.
No.
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PPS Are you a “Birther”? [/quote]
Nope. But if I thought it’d do any good I would be.
yes! jack cashill!! i’m good friends with a member of his family. he is, surprisingly, a real human being (and a maddeningly prolific writer).
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
A part of me cringes each time a smart person posts a link to WND.
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I’d never heard of WND until I looked it up now. I was looking for an article on Obama and Harvard Law. I already know all about Obama’s background but I can’t post pages from the books I read. This article covers a few of the things I was looking for.
No.
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PPS Are you a “Birther”? [/quote]
Nope. But if I thought it’d do any good I would be.[/quote]
I don’t understand what you mean by this. You would be a conspiracy theorist if you thought it would help something?