[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
But don’t forget that every individual has differing levels of sensitivity and reaction to every one of the chemicals used to create injectable gear. For example, I have a friend who gets excruciating pain from both prop and enan, unlucky b’stard that he is.
The two factors that seem to be especially critical are the type of gear/ester itself, the concentration of the brew in terms of mg/ml, and finally, the level of BA used. I would suggest that the most painless gear you could make (assuming that you are fixed in your choice of gear/ester) would have the lowest conc/ml that you can live with in terms of injection volume, made with the least amount of BA, usually 1%. You could also try a different ester, like isocaproate, etc to see if you are less sensitive to it. [/quote]
i seem to be sensitive to BA, but not BB. well made (read low BA) prop is also nearly painless, though nowhere near enanthate and eq.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Yeah, I’m going the EO route too. Unfortunately, I can only seem to find one supplier here in the UK, and the minimum order is 25kg! Which will cost me around $500. Bugger. So if any UK homebrewers want any EO for future brews, feel free to hit me up, hahaha. Antway RJ, I don’t get your question… It makes no difference to your final conc, as I see it. I mean, if you have a 10ml vial, with 2.5g of powder dissolved in it somewhere, then the conc is still 250mg/ml, no matter if you have used oil, EO, or leopards fanny batter…[/quote]
Sorry for the confusion, bushy -I was referring to the pain levels associated with higher concentration gear.
In other words - will using a 50/50 blend of oil an EO allow for a higher concentration gear without the associated pain? Can I make 350mg/ml test E and have it be as painless as 200mg/ml using straight oil?
BTW - my wife and I made some fast friends with some folks on your side of the pond while we were in Cancun. They live in Essex. Do you know them?
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
BTW - my wife and I made some fast friends with some folks on your side of the pond while we were in Cancun. They live in Essex. Do you know them?
Of course I know them. Hell there are only 10,000 people living in the whole of the UK. I like to think I have a special bond with them all. In fact I might well run for Prime Minister soon.[/quote]
LMAO - I asked him if he knew you and he said the same thing.
I brewed some gear last weekend and as promised I am posting my results. I made masteron enanthate and test enanthate both at 200mg/ml, 1% BA, 10% BB, in sesame oil. I’ve never made masteron before, but after reading some threads on here I decided to get some. Neither had any pain whatsoever.
I made my last batch of test e at 250mg/ml, 1.5% BA, and it caused a fair amount of pain. It seems pretty interesting that going from 250 to 200mg/ml would make that much of a difference. Either that or it was the .5% drop in BA. Either way I’m going to stick with this recipe. I put 2.5ml in my thigh and my glute, and no pain in either. Whoever suggested 200mg/ml, thanks.
it is not the BA, mine has 2%, painless, if it were 250, it would smart a bit. the BA gets washed out pretty fast anyway. BB stays in solution with the oil a lot better. slighty higher on the BB can help a little, but as you get up to 250 with BA and BB in oil, there just seems to be some pain, not bad, but not nice and smooth like the 200.
now i do not know what other more exotic brewing techniques would yield, but one might be able to up the concentration and keep it pain free. myself, i think i want find a 200mg eq and 200mg test e per mL blend, that would be nice. only .5-1 mL EOD.