I like these ADD trolls.
@OP: DYEL?
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
That’s because you’re looking at it as a performance metric. When you view it as a health metric, it becomes another arrow in the quiver much like blood pressure, cholesterol levels, hematocrit, A-1C, CRP, etc.
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I forgot that some people think about their health lol[/quote]
Jesus, what a weirdo…
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
That’s because you’re looking at it as a performance metric. When you view it as a health metric, it becomes another arrow in the quiver much like blood pressure, cholesterol levels, hematocrit, A-1C, CRP, etc.
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I forgot that some people think about their health lol[/quote]
I feel like a walking Public Service Announcement with all you young guys on this website.
[quote]susani wrote:
Yet my figures so far are showing that even that might not be so simple. That there might be a level of fat and intracellular fluid that’s optimal and actually helps make you BETTER able to shift your body despite it being heavier.[/quote]
Revelation! Please go on, as I think there may be some very rapt strength athletes among us who would like to know more about your research.
Mad Martigan - I can’t really draw any firm conclusions yet as I’m middle of a big experiment with it all so I’d rather not go into it in too much depth right now. I just mentioned it in passing in this thread because each time I have one of these sudden 2 - 3kg weight increases through exercises related fluid retention my strength and endurance takes a sudden (and temporary) big leap too.
I’m certain that the intracellular fluid gives you a strength increase that more than makes up for the 2-3kg extra weight you have to shift. Also endurance. For example, a few days ago I switched to a fairly intensive pullups training schedule that involves max effort sets of pullups every day. Weight jumped up due to fluid retention (as is the norm for me when I tackle something that’s a good bit harder than I’m used to).
But also so did strength and ability to just keep getting stronger and stronger each day - when in theory I should be tiring. When the fluid levels go back to normal this abnormal strength and endurance will too - that’s the pattern.
But I don’t know if the same is true for having a certain amount of fat - that’s the bit I’m still uncertain about.
People typically say the best way to improve your pullups is to shed fat. It’s so obvious no one doubts it. But maybe it’s not strictly true. Sure if you’re carrying a ton of lard, but how much fat is detrimental when it comes to pullups?
CT made this point in an article a while back - he said that fat levels(as well as fluid) did make a big difference to bench press strength - and in his experience any exercise that involved the shoulders. The question is, does that added strength more than make up for the extra weight from carrying that fat? Too soon for me to draw any conclusions yet in my own experiments.
ok then.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
I’ve never understood the impetus for even figuring out your bodyfat percentage to any level of accuracy. There is no contest in which that is the metric for victory. The only thing that matters even in physique, bodybuilding, figure, etc. is how you appear. In other physical avenues not even that matters.[/quote]
That’s because you’re looking at it as a performance metric. When you view it as a health metric, it becomes another arrow in the quiver much like blood pressure, cholesterol levels, hematocrit, A-1C, CRP, etc.
<------ number junkie, gets annual dunk tank or DEXA scans.
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Don’t think you need a number for the health part. Be able to take your shirt off and have ppl actually be ok looking at you or even better they enjoy it. If ppl start avoid looking at you without a shirt then your fat and risking your health. The reason for using other is too many ppl are biased and think they look dead sexy even though they have an extra 40lbs. But if you’re like me and are overly critical if you start to avoid mirrors then it’s time to cut back. But honestly 15% for males is good an healthy and easy to see in the mirror no dexa needed imo.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Be able to take your shirt off and have ppl actually be ok looking at you or even better they enjoy it. If ppl start avoid looking at you without a shirt then your fat and risking your health.[/quote]
I tried that at the bank. The security guard told me I would have to put my shirt back on or leave. I told him I didn’t want to risk my health.
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Be able to take your shirt off and have ppl actually be ok looking at you or even better they enjoy it. If ppl start avoid looking at you without a shirt then your fat and risking your health.[/quote]
I tried that at the bank. The security guard told me I would have to put my shirt back on or leave. I told him I didn’t want to risk my health.
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Just ask him how good you look before he kicks you out
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I knew that 11% figure was off so I decided to cough up the money for accuracy. Made me realize how inaccurate most BF assessments are [/quote]
This statement is more true than you think. I highly doubt you are 20% fat, you should have kept your cash.[/quote]
KP, I have reason to believe someone thinks I was saying you are fatter than 20%. In case that’s what you thought too, that’s not what I meant at all. I think you are significantly leaner than 20%.
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]on edge wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
I knew that 11% figure was off so I decided to cough up the money for accuracy. Made me realize how inaccurate most BF assessments are [/quote]
This statement is more true than you think. I highly doubt you are 20% fat, you should have kept your cash.[/quote]
KP, I have reason to believe someone thinks I was saying you are fatter than 20%. In case that’s what you thought too, that’s not what I meant at all. I think you are significantly leaner than 20%.[/quote]
Thanks for clarifying. But I didn’t take your statement the wrong way. Personally, I think the bodyfat percent metric is pretty useless, as I said prior.