Our Department Is Being Defunded

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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So, we’re living in a time where we’re told we must reform the police because we assume everything we’re being told about the reforms by the press was urgent and good for us.

*The worst reform: the no cash bail. Once you arrest an offender, you can’t hold him, because that discriminates against suspects who don’t have cash on them. And the last thing we want to do is hurt the feelings of a broke mugger. I’m willing to bet most criminals don’t have money for bail; they’re not mugging people so they can contribute to their 401k. *

So bail as it’s meant to be, shouldn’t even consider the suspect’s finances. This is nuts. Some of the most recently arrested thugs in NYC have racked up dozens of prior arrests. Think of all the victims who’ve been permanently damaged from that. Some are dead. And there are new reforms in California, releasing buttloads of criminals - claiming they’re nonviolent. Which is bulls**.*

*And now you can’t arrest a shoplifter if he steals anything less than a thousand bucks. Do you know how far $900 dollars goes at a CVS? That’s five bottles of Pantene, ten tubes of Preparation H, and one Gillette shaver. *

So, who needs the cops, when you can just tell the crooks what’s an acceptable crime. Of course, the people getting the shaft when the stores permanently close, it’s the locals - often minorities and elderly who suffer. Fact is, today “reform” is a fake word, designed like a Trojan horse, to usher in some seriously warped ideas about justice.

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Ding Ding Ding… I called it a Trojan Horse long ago. The loons pushing this are insatiable rejects. Bush got caught faking racist emails. Crickets…

There’s ZERO accountability for these loons.

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If bail hurts less affluent criminals/suspects then just make wealthy criminals pay even more to even things out.

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I’m should fly to LA, rent a Uhaul, spend a few days taking $999 of merchandise from multiple stores, and then drive back to Texas. I have a family of 7 and that could go a long way in getting us through the year.

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You can still be arrested. One of the reasons people don’t get arrested isn’t that the law says you can’t, because you can, it’s that some progressive DA won’t bother prosecuting so cops don’t want to waste their time.

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What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander:

I can hear the howls from here. Are they serious? Everyone knows you cannot be sued for injuring a cop! Its our Constitutional right!

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Seattle is by far the largest city in Washington. Last year, the Seattle city council moved to defund their police department by $3 million, the money going to social programs. Seattle’s mayor vetoed the reallocation but had her veto overridden by the council. Six months later, the police department is down 250 officers, and Seattle experienced six shootings in one weekend. The mayor is calling for hiring more police but getting more cops onto the streets of Seattle and other Washington cities is going to be even more difficult than before. Every Washington officer I interviewed said that some of their cops are considering early retirement or relocation in light of these new laws that can derail the careers of well-intentioned officers. The Washington legislature may be moved to revisit some of these reforms the next time they meet.

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July 4th party - probably 15 - 20 years back, a USAF pilot told me about being a test subject for Active Denial System type of device. Said it was so uncomfortable, you would do anything to get out ot its projection.

Why are these devices not used when crowds are going into riot/destroy mode?

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I think several large very bright spotlights directed at the crowd could be very effective.

These rejects get far too much leeway as it is

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If people can’t riot, they might start thinking about ways to actually cause real change. Riots let people take out their anger on everyone but those who are really keeping them down. Note how the politicians in DC reacted to what happened on the sixth.

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Oh look… Another leftist reject fraud

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AOC isn’t left wing. She’s got views wayyy to extreme for me to consider her “left wing”. She’s radically left wing.

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She’s not even that radical.

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  • supports defunding the police
  • supports BDS movement
  • supports income taxation of up to SEVENTY percent (for those with very high incomes)

I suppose she isn’t “radical”, but she’s deviates further left relative to the status quo of the average democrat (like Joe Biden, Barack Obama etc).

Support for BDS/defund police movement in particular makes me think “far left”

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“I’m going to make sure I have security because I know I have had attempts on my life and I have too much work to do,” Bush said. “There are too many people that need help right now for me to allow that.”

I don’t disagree that she needs security, but I think she made this up. She knows there have been attempts on her life? I don’t think she knows what that means.

“We need to defund the police and put that money into social safety nets because we’re trying to save lives,” Bush said.

People at the bottom, don’t need nets.

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All those phony threats… What a bottom feeding pos

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"The demonizing of police has brought about brazen lawlessness and normalized violence against police. It sickens me. This is not the country I want and it sure isn’t the one I want to hand off to my daughter." Well said, Mike.

*Videos from Portland showed a crowd of demonstrators violently shut down an event where Christians gathered to pray on the waterfront – before another clash Saturday afternoon involved Antifascists and alleged Proud Boys members throwing projectiles at each other on a city street. *

Police officers did not intervene in either confrontation – besides a squad car sounding its siren just feet away.

*Dozens of people carrying black umbrellas and shields are seen spraying red and yellow gas at the group of worshippers, as other Antifa members steal sound equipment, lawn chairs and wagons left across the lawn by families who had come to listen to the pastor speak. *

"All Cops are B*****, in the name of Jesus,**" a male’s voice is heard saying during the melee.*

*Children, including toddlers, were in attendance at the worship event when the group of Antifa demonstrators began throwing projectiles, including eggs, one woman told a videographer at the scene. *

*“They threw a flash bomb into a group of kids who were out there,” she said. *

*A male worshipper said a pastor had walked up to ask the group of demonstrators to stop – but he was pepper sprayed. The woman is seen attending the pastor’s eyes covered by an orange substance. *

The Portland Tribune reported that members of the far-right group, Proud Boys, later descended on the worship event and clashed with the Antifa members. Additional video circulated online by independent journalist Andy Ngo shows the clashes carried onto a nearby city street, and the alleged Proud Boys members, seen dressed in yellow and black garb, fired a paint ball gun at several Antifa members.

A squad car for the Portland Police Bureau pulls up and flashes its siren – but seemingly had no impact in stopping the confrontation. A man is heard yelling at the officer behind the wheel, “Do your job.”

As the groups left, there was a report of another small fight that was over prior to police response. No arrests were made and no one came forward to report any crimes that we are aware of."

“Police had no interaction with either group today,” Carmon added.

To the dickhead screaming to the LEO “do your job” Its Portland, you fuxking idiot, where a coward mayor gutted the police department. The Portland city administration and the Governor’s administration for the great state of Oregon, are a national embarrassment… I don’t give a flying fuxk how woke you are, you have a responsibility to your citizens to provide a safe environment. You are cowards and worthless leaders.

And lets not forget about the brilliant leadership being shown in the great city of Minneapolis:

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I believe a lawsuit was filed against Minneapolis by people who are against defunding/abolishing the police. So it’s an interesting situation.

It’s all BS in the end as it won’t happen. It can’t happen. Banks and businesses would shut down as they probably couldn’t get insurance. Imagine working in a bank or business knowing that there is no one who can stop a robbery. Imagine being a robber and knowing there are not only no cops around to stop you, there are no cops to catch you. You won’t even have to worry about an investigation. You wouldn’t have to worry about parking tickets. If a tow truck pulls up you can tell the driver that if he touches your car, you’ll cave his skull in. What’s he going to do? Call the cops?

Then you also have EMTs and firemen who might end up going away as well since SOP is that the police are usually present when they are called. Courts would probably close for safety reasons.

And imagine how high car insurance premiums will be. When I moved to the ghetto, my rates doubled. And that was with police.

In the end, it will be about the economic reality. You don’t have police, you don’t have businesses, which means no jobs and no taxes. If somehow it passes a vote and the city follows through (which I doubt) then the state and/or federal government will step in and prevent it from happening as the state would be obligated to provide policing. In Camden they abolished the municipal police and the county took over. These people just don’t understand how the world works. Crack is a wonderful thing.

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It has happened. It continues to happen.

There is no course correction in sight from the Democrats at any level. Not in Minneapolis. Not in Washington.

The Unanimous Democrat vote on the anti-cop bill named after a career criminal was a couple of months ago, not a couple of decades ago.

The situation continues to deteriorate. It is, after all, impossible to un-send the message Democrats have sent to LEOs over the last few years.

Criminals are paying attention as well. Decriminalize crime? They are on-board.

Now, like every psychotic leftist social experiment in history, regular people have to live with the results, while leftists double down on leftism to explain the easily-predicted outcomes away.

Society can’t re-imagine our way into qualified individuals choosing a career in law enforcement. Democrats already drove them away. They aren’t coming back to apply for LEO work.

Now we’re left with whoever is willing.

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Where? The only example ever given of a police department being abolished is Camden.

And note that they collected 20k signatures. That is far from a majority.

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It’s all BS, like you said.

The Democrats are obviously deeply committed to American law enforcement and public safety. There’s no reason for alarm as long as entire departments aren’t entirely abolished.