While I am glad to see him gone, what, if anything, will this change? We’re still entrenched in war, and if anything now we’re leering at Pakistan. Good riddance, but that doesn’t mean I look forward to what’s next.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
That is my main concern AC.
These fuckers play for keeps. Heads up my man, break a mother fucker off somethin’ proper if needed. [/quote]
Fo Sho![/quote]
Just remember, beard and turban probably = Sikh. Don’t ‘break a mother fucker off somethin’ unless you’re sure you’ve got the right mother fuck’n somethin’ 
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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
That is my main concern AC.
These fuckers play for keeps. Heads up my man, break a mother fucker off somethin’ proper if needed. [/quote]
Fo Sho![/quote]
Just remember, beard and turban probably = Sikh. Don’t ‘break a mother fucker off somethin’ unless you’re sure you’ve got the right mother fuck’n somethin’
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Don’t worry, I know the difference between a push start and a pull start!
(Sorry, I couldn’t resist - that was JUST A JOKE! And a tasteless one at that - but that’s how I roll. My Lawyer is a Sikh, and I have plenty of friends who are from the middle east, so I hope no one gets too butt-hurt)
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
That is my main concern AC.
These fuckers play for keeps. Heads up my man, break a mother fucker off somethin’ proper if needed. [/quote]
Fo Sho![/quote]
Just remember, beard and turban probably = Sikh. Don’t ‘break a mother fucker off somethin’ unless you’re sure you’ve got the right mother fuck’n somethin’
[/quote]
Don’t worry, I know the difference between a push start and a pull start!
(Sorry, I couldn’t resist - that was JUST A JOKE! And a tasteless one at that - but that’s how I roll. My Lawyer is a Sikh, and I have plenty of friends who are from the middle east, so I hope no one gets too butt-hurt)[/quote]
Don’t you realise you need a winking emoticon to get away with that?
[quote]Chushin wrote:
Nah, the White House has already said the body will be treated in accordance with Islamic rules…[/quote]
Well those rules MUST be observed by President Hussein Obama. And let’s not be too hard on Obama. Ramadan is coming up soon and that dawn to dusk fasting thing can be tough on anyone.
well, this just got interesting
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
How many ‘well done Obama’ posts have we got so far? How hard is it to give the green light?
OIC: We’ve found the SOB.
Obama: Go ahead.
Well done Obama! Yay!
Notice Obama has used the first person singular personal pronoun four times in 40 seconds?
‘I directed Leon Panetta…’, ‘I was briefed on a lead to Bin Laden’, ‘I met repeatedly with my National Security team’, ‘I determined we had enough intelligence’
and also
‘Today at my direction’
Obama’s pumping this one for everything it’s worth and so are his supporters. Well done US Special Forces.[/quote]
Well, yes, that’s what’s called leadership.
Set direction and priorities.
Such as, say, winding down operations in Iraq (the war Dick had Shrub start when they should have been hunting bin Laden), scaling down in Afghanistan, and getting intel working hard on finding out just where the fuck bin Laden was. Then making sure the job got done. Right.
Well done, Obama!
Yada yada yada. Another Obama Dhimmi with Stockholm syndrome.
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Buried at sea apparently. And according to a spokesman for President Hussein Obama:
"We are ensuring that it is handled in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition.
“This is something that we take very seriously. And so therefore this is being handled in an appropriate manner.”
Aren’t you glad to have a President that takes things like that so seriously? I mean he upholds libertarian values too, like the right to build a mosque at ground zero.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Yada yada yada. Another Obama Dhimmi with Stockholm syndrome.
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Buried at sea apparently. And according to a spokesman for President Hussein Obama:
"We are ensuring that it is handled in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition.
“This is something that we take very seriously. And so therefore this is being handled in an appropriate manner.”
Aren’t you glad to have a President that takes things like that so seriously? I mean he upholds libertarian values too, like the right to build a mosque at ground zero.[/quote]
I would wager that burying him with a modicum of tradition is the separation between us and the people who carry out atrocities. THEY may desecrate corpses. WE don’t. We’re the good guys remember? Also,it’s not worth pissing off the Islamic world just to get a bit of vengeance. The dude is dead AND DESERVEDLY SO.
So, interesting bits and observations.
The 1AM (US/Pacific) NPR newscast doesn’t identify the US forces used – I’ve seen Navy SEALS named by several sources, one Arabic YouTube newscast claimed CIA involvement, though I suspect speculation. In the program, there’s speculation of a mix of assets.
We tracked bin Laden as we had in the past: through communications. When he gave up technological means of communicating, we identified his human couriers. Interesting in that regard as while it’s relatively easy to swap out radios or cell phones (and encrypt traffic). The compound itself was identified by its characteristics (high walls, secure, no telephone lines, residents burned their trash rather than leave it for pick-up).
There are photos of the dead body circulating, seen in videos, but labled released by the US Pentagon. He looks better to me than he has in years. I’m sure it’s Googleable by now.
The body’s reported to be disposed of, at sea, in accordance with Islamic rites. This avoids creating a shrine, and deprives the enemy of another claim against us. Similar to scattering Hitler’s ashes. What I wouldn’t do for a little bacon grease though… I’ll just have to toss some drippings in the ocean next time I’m out.
International response from allies is (unsuprisingly) very supportive. International response from the Palistinian Authority is … very supportive. I suspect the only country which might possibly spill tears is PRK.
The story of the safehouse in Abbotabad, and its proximity to an ISI (Pakistani military) faclity (just a few meters from it) is looking really, really bad for the Pakis. Reports are that it was constructed around 2005, is valued over $1m, and was registered to a low-income individual (postal carrier or some such in one news commentary). Pretty … unlikely. Mind, there’s possibly just a bit of oddity and corruption in some areas of the world, possibly even in US real estate. But this smells pretty bad.
This guy (“ReallyVirtual”) apparently live-Tweeted the whole raid without realizing it: http://bit.ly/lXosBX
For the interesting and uncensored spec on the compound, look to the Indians (not particularly friendly with the Pakis): http://bit.ly/ip92ye (Bin Laden’s death: Hillary Clinton nearly blew the whistle on ISI safehouse).
Bin Laden may just have been a figurehead of Al Qaida in recent years, but he was still the spiritual leader (and possibly financial leader) of the organization. I don’t expect it will fall to pieces immediately, but I suspect this will be a very strong blow to its cohesion, and will make recruitment, particularly of capable leaders, more difficult. I hope.
All told: Very professional job on the part of US forces.
Very competent direction and follow-through on the part of Obama. Well done.
[quote]Bambi wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Yada yada yada. Another Obama Dhimmi with Stockholm syndrome.
…
Buried at sea apparently. And according to a spokesman for President Hussein Obama:
"We are ensuring that it is handled in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition.
“This is something that we take very seriously. And so therefore this is being handled in an appropriate manner.”
Aren’t you glad to have a President that takes things like that so seriously? I mean he upholds libertarian values too, like the right to build a mosque at ground zero.[/quote]
I would wager that burying him with a modicum of tradition is the separation between us and the people who carry out atrocities. THEY may desecrate corpses. WE don’t. We’re the good guys remember? Also,it’s not worth pissing off the Islamic world just to get a bit of vengeance. The dude is dead AND DESERVEDLY SO. [/quote]
I’m not down with desecrating his corpse either frankly. However giving him a religious service and burial is a disgrace. Burial and graveside services are considerations he denied thousands of people whose bodies were never found after 9/11 for one thing. He’s also murdered literally thousands of Muslims as well.
And you don’t think we should piss off the Islamic world? Anyone in the Islamic world who gets pissed off because Bin Laden didn’t get a nice funeral is going to be pissed off whatever we do. Don’t you get it yet? They don’t want legitimate grievances addressed. They want a worldwide caliphate, your wife and daughter and your fucking head.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]Bambi wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Yada yada yada. Another Obama Dhimmi with Stockholm syndrome.
…
Buried at sea apparently. And according to a spokesman for President Hussein Obama:
"We are ensuring that it is handled in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition.
“This is something that we take very seriously. And so therefore this is being handled in an appropriate manner.”
Aren’t you glad to have a President that takes things like that so seriously? I mean he upholds libertarian values too, like the right to build a mosque at ground zero.[/quote]
I would wager that burying him with a modicum of tradition is the separation between us and the people who carry out atrocities. THEY may desecrate corpses. WE don’t. We’re the good guys remember? Also,it’s not worth pissing off the Islamic world just to get a bit of vengeance. The dude is dead AND DESERVEDLY SO. [/quote]
I’m not down with desecrating his corpse either frankly. However giving him a religious service and burial is a disgrace. Burial and graveside services are considerations he denied thousands of people whose bodies were never found after 9/11 for one thing. He’s also murdered literally thousands of Muslims as well.
And you don’t think we should piss off the Islamic world? Anyone in the Islamic world who gets pissed off because Bin Laden didn’t get a nice funeral is going to be pissed off whatever we do. Don’t you get it yet? They don’t want legitimate grievances addressed. They want a worldwide caliphate, your wife and daughter and your fucking head.[/quote]
He’s at the bottom of the ocean now. When they say ‘buried him according to Islamic rituals’, ‘booting him into the sea’ is a very loose interpretation thereof.
To be honest, the fallout here is in Pakistan. Its intelligence agency is a law unto itself.
Hey you can make a diamond from cremated ashes. Burn his body, make a diamond, put it in a ring and present it to Pres Bush!
k-dingo:
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An Arab source on Youtube mentioned CIA involvement? The Whitehouse mentioned CIA involvement! How do you think the US aquires intelligence in foreign countries anyway?
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The fact that the ISI has been supporting Bin Laden and the Taliban is not news. They’ve been ‘smelling bad’ in the public domain for a long time.
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Bin Laden didn’t fund anything. He had to borrow $7000 from one of his friends after Tora Bora.
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The Whitehouse have stated that US Navy Seal team six carried out the raid via four helicopters.
[quote]limburg wrote:
Hey you can make a diamond from cremated ashes. Burn his body, make a diamond, put it in a ring and present it to Pres Bush![/quote]
Don’t they have a TV in the coffee house dude? Bin Laden is in the ocean, remember? Wow! What a spin out! I like totally forgot…(cough, splutter…bubble, bubble, bubble)
Really? Hes not dead 24 hours and you guys are already drawing lines in the sand?
Sad, but hey thats your life.
Been waiting to read this headline for 10 years… : )
Congratulations to all involved in this mission, from President Obama to the fighting men that carried it out. Myself, I’m glad that the US finished it off with a bit of class rather than becoming what we fought to overcome. Good move on the part of the administration.
And BTW, it almost causes me physical pain to say “good job Obama”. LOL…it’s early, but methinks I may need a drink
Yeey!!! The war on terror is finally over!!!
/end sarcasm