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A point to note regarding Bin Laden’s 72 virgins:

Afghan/NWFP warlords prefer harems of ‘dancing boys’. The Quran entices them with these entries:

‘Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.’

and

‘And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.’

and from the Hadiths:

“There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them.”

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

I can tell you one thing I HAVE experienced my entire life is people who are older than me thinking that I know nothing because of my age, and that anything I say is stupid. I VIVIDLY remember that the only people who ever showed any genuine respect for my opinions growing up were my parents. .[/quote]

For some reason you think this is some sort of coincidence. Or a conspiracy against you maybe. It’s neither. No one respects you because you give them no reason to. THis isn’t my opinion. It HAS to be true. There are plenty of 20 year olds garnering the respect of their peers and adults alike. It has nothing to do with your age. Youre just living in your own little world. WHat you fail to realize is that everyone here has experienced something like that. Some grow out of it faster than others. It seems like youre behind the curve at this point.

“Punk kid” is not the right term. “Ignoramus” is more fitting.

[/quote]

I have no regard for the opinions of people who, knowing nothing about me, and having never met me personally, would pass judgment on my character and intelligence. I am just happy that I was fortunate enough to not be born as dumb as you.[/quote]

Funny, I was thinking this exact same thing when you criticized some of us for our opinions regarding bin Laden’s death.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

I can tell you one thing I HAVE experienced my entire life is people who are older than me thinking that I know nothing because of my age, and that anything I say is stupid. I VIVIDLY remember that the only people who ever showed any genuine respect for my opinions growing up were my parents. .[/quote]

For some reason you think this is some sort of coincidence. Or a conspiracy against you maybe. It’s neither. No one respects you because you give them no reason to. THis isn’t my opinion. It HAS to be true. There are plenty of 20 year olds garnering the respect of their peers and adults alike. It has nothing to do with your age. Youre just living in your own little world. WHat you fail to realize is that everyone here has experienced something like that. Some grow out of it faster than others. It seems like youre behind the curve at this point.

“Punk kid” is not the right term. “Ignoramus” is more fitting.

[/quote]

yeah dude, you got me. I’m just dumb as shit.

I am not going to try to have a polite, intelligent conversation with any of you any more. There are some people who can do it on this website, none of them are participating in this thread. As one of the people that PM’d me about this put it, some of you think that being directly affected by these events (and hell, even those of you that weren’t) gives you a good reason to respond to an opinion that you don’t agree with “fuck you you’re a piece of shit” and the like, endlessly. You are all idiots, the world is full of them. I’ve never had doubts about my own intelligence, and even an entire country full of idiots like yourselves shouting all the stupid shit you do would never change that. In ten years, I won’t look back and think “doh.” I’ll look back and just see more evidence that most people truly never grow up. I have no regard for the opinions of people who, knowing nothing about me, and having never met me personally, would pass judgment on my character and intelligence. I am just happy that I was fortunate enough to not be born as dumb as you.[/quote]

Alright big fella, I guess you are the first man in his early 20’s to think this way.

Best of luck.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I am just happy that I was fortunate enough to not be born as dumb as you.[/quote]

Well the amount you’ve regressed since birth is nothing short of amazing.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:
A point to note regarding Bin Laden’s 72 virgins:

Afghan/NWFP warlords prefer harems of ‘dancing boys’. The Quran entices them with these entries:

‘Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.’

and

‘And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.’

and from the Hadiths:

“There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them.”[/quote]

If you want to you can go back into Scripture and pull ridiculous shit out of the turbid cesspool from which all of the Abrahamic religions were spawned. You think Christians have no ambiguous, retarded maxims stuck back deep in the forgotten recesses of their early years? You think every little rule in the Bible is humane, or logically coherent, or reflective of the ways Christians today live their lives?

Finding them and quoting them doesn’t change reality. Bin Laden made it explicitly clear on various occasions that he literally loathed homosexuality. As does most if not all of al-Qaeda. And, more generally, many Muslims. I don’t see the need to post stupid shit that argues against reality entirely.

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I saw this one and thought it was appropriate =)

Regarding the urban legend about Pershing and the pig blood, I think it would be a MARVELOUS idea to test out.

My “higher self” actually thinks the way we dealt with the body was a good thing as it gave very little for the extremist “propaganda machine” to use against us. But I’d be lying if a part of me doesn’t wish they drug that mutherfucker through the streets of NYC, cut him up in to pieces, etc… <<>>

I’m honestly very divided about dealing with them in “a language they can understand” and “taking the high road”. From the sound of it, a lot of us are.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

I can tell you one thing I HAVE experienced my entire life is people who are older than me thinking that I know nothing because of my age, and that anything I say is stupid. I VIVIDLY remember that the only people who ever showed any genuine respect for my opinions growing up were my parents. .[/quote]

For some reason you think this is some sort of coincidence. Or a conspiracy against you maybe. It’s neither. No one respects you because you give them no reason to. THis isn’t my opinion. It HAS to be true. There are plenty of 20 year olds garnering the respect of their peers and adults alike. It has nothing to do with your age. Youre just living in your own little world. WHat you fail to realize is that everyone here has experienced something like that. Some grow out of it faster than others. It seems like youre behind the curve at this point.

“Punk kid” is not the right term. “Ignoramus” is more fitting.

[/quote]

yeah dude, you got me. I’m just dumb as shit.

I am not going to try to have a polite, intelligent conversation with any of you any more. There are some people who can do it on this website, none of them are participating in this thread. As one of the people that PM’d me about this put it, some of you think that being directly affected by these events (and hell, even those of you that weren’t) gives you a good reason to respond to an opinion that you don’t agree with “fuck you you’re a piece of shit” and the like, endlessly. You are all idiots, the world is full of them. I’ve never had doubts about my own intelligence, and even an entire country full of idiots like yourselves shouting all the stupid shit you do would never change that. In ten years, I won’t look back and think “doh.” I’ll look back and just see more evidence that most people truly never grow up. I have no regard for the opinions of people who, knowing nothing about me, and having never met me personally, would pass judgment on my character and intelligence. I am just happy that I was fortunate enough to not be born as dumb as you.[/quote]

I legitimately feel sorry for you.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

I legitimately feel sorry for you.

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Ditto.

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[quote]Young Devil Dog wrote:
HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS… it worked once in our History…

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so “Black Jack” told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs’ blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won’t make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won’t get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.[/quote]

This just is not true. Pershing worked in the Lake lanao area of Mindanao and was probably best known for his Civil / Military Operations (CMO) and was well respected by local Datu’s. The incident that you describe took place on the island of Sulu. The commander (cant remember his name at the moment) was later relieved because he had so many soldiers killed in the weeks of counter-attacks and reprisals that followed.

I have been working in the Philippines for almost 6 years now (mostly down south). I suggest reading the book “Moroland”. I would try to get more detailed info on this for you, but I am currently deployed in the Philippines.

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[quote]sjoconn wrote:

[quote]Young Devil Dog wrote:
HOW TO STOP ISLAMIC TERRORISTS… it worked once in our History…

Once in U.S. history an episode of Islamic terrorism was very quickly stopped. It happened in the Philippines about 1911, when Gen. John J. Pershing was in command of the garrison. There had been numerous Islamic terrorist attacks, so “Black Jack” told his boys to catch the perps and teach them a lesson.

Forced to dig their own graves, the terrorists were all tied to posts, execution style. The U.S. soldiers then brought in pigs and slaughtered them, rubbing their bullets in the blood and fat. Thus, the terrorists were terrorized; they saw that they would be contaminated with hogs’ blood. This would mean that they could not enter Heaven, even if they died as terrorist martyrs.

All but one was shot, their bodies dumped into the grave, and the hog guts dumped atop the bodies. The lone survivor was allowed to escape back to the terrorist camp and tell his brethren what happened to the others. This brought a stop to terrorism in the Philippines for the next 50 years.

Pointing a gun into the face of Islamic terrorists won’t make them flinch.

They welcome the chance to die for Allah. Like Gen. Pershing, we must show them that they won’t get to Muslim heaven (which they believe has an endless supply of virgins) but instead will die with the hated pigs of the devil.[/quote]

This just is not true. Pershing worked in the Lake lanao area of Mindanao and was probably best known for his Civil / Military Operations (CMO) and was well respected by local Datu’s. The incident that you describe took place on the island of Sulu. The commander (cant remember his name at the moment) was later relieved because he had so many soldiers killed in the weeks of counter-attacks and reprisals that followed.

I have been working in the Philippines for almost 6 years now (mostly down south). I suggest reading the book “Moroland”. I would try to get more detailed info on this for you, but I am currently deployed in the Philippines.[/quote]

Yeah I know that it is an urban myth. Just thought I would post it anyway. It is a good story although not true. To bad it wasn’t that easy. I did not know that it wasn’t totally false though. I thought it was all made up, I did not know that it did actually happen. Thanks and I will defiantly check the book out! Always up for a good read.

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But I think both happened to a large extent. A round to the skull sends a fairly clear message, and the manner in which he was buried at sea showed some measure of respect for a person who deserved none. I’m sure the armchair historians will find some fault down the road, but nearly every step of this, right through the part where he became fish food, was executed well IMHO. If you’re already on the conspiracy wagon, disregard all of the above. He’s been dead since 2002 and spent a year or so hanging at the Crawford ranch.

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[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:

I legitimately feel sorry for you.

[/quote]

Ditto.

Grow a sack and defend your own viewpoint. I don’t give a flying fuck about what NPR or Laura Cunningham have to say about the matter.

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DB- Your “succinct” makes me laugh, a lot. I pretty much agree with you, but it does make me wonder why I, personally, don’t feel anything but slightly disgusted at the joy of those around me. It’s not even a judgmental disgust, just a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach like “oh no not this again”.

To the kid who just said no one on here aside from themselves is capable of having a civilized conversation on here- fuck you. Many of us manage just fine.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:
And what’s the big deal about sex with virgins? You ask any guy and they will say virgins are annoying to deal with and the sex is okay at best. Wouldn’t you much rather have an STD free whore who knows what she’s about? Or at least an STD free slut…if whores are too icky for you.[/quote]

Symbolic of the idea that paradise is where you get whatever you want.

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“Smite your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women”
- Martin Luther King Jr.

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Martin Luther Khan

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[quote]relentless2120 wrote:
just to throw this into the mix too, a quote by MLK jr.

â??“I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”

Not at all trying to say Osama shouldn’t have been killed, just food for thought I guess[/quote]

Not trying to imply that the message relayed by that quote is wrong. I guess this is also just food for thought.

Out of Osama’s Death, A Fake Quotation is Born

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]byukid wrote:
U.S Military deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan- about 7200.
Civilian deaths in 9/11- about 2750.

Just something to think about.[/quote]

Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori.

You were saying?

In other words, if someone wants to sacrifice his life for the greater good of the fatherland, excuse me, homeland, it is not as if we had lost the father of cold fusion here.

Stupid is as stupid does, and good riddance.

[/quote]

So your point in this post was to say good riddance to the dead American troops?

Really Franz?[/quote]

Ya, rly!

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[quote]smh23 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:
A point to note regarding Bin Laden’s 72 virgins:

Afghan/NWFP warlords prefer harems of ‘dancing boys’. The Quran entices them with these entries:

‘Round about them will serve, to them, boys (handsome) as pearls well-guarded.’

and

‘And round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered pearls.’

and from the Hadiths:

“There is in Paradise a market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, he will have intercourse with them.”[/quote]

If you want to you can go back into Scripture and pull ridiculous shit out of the turbid cesspool from which all of the Abrahamic religions were spawned. You think Christians have no ambiguous, retarded maxims stuck back deep in the forgotten recesses of their early years? You think every little rule in the Bible is humane, or logically coherent, or reflective of the ways Christians today live their lives?

Finding them and quoting them doesn’t change reality. Bin Laden made it explicitly clear on various occasions that he literally loathed homosexuality. As does most if not all of al-Qaeda. And, more generally, many Muslims. I don’t see the need to post stupid shit that argues against reality entirely.[/quote]

Indeed, when i read the bible - especially the old testatment, i treat 99% of it as a history

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