Openly Gay T-members

[quote]elevationgain wrote:
Schwarzfahrer wrote:
2. A real T-Man doesn’t pride himself on his straight sexuality? Are you on the crack? We’re supposed to run around as sexless beings bumping into each other for the sole purpose of reproducing? Ashamed that we love the ladies? On the flip side, are you’re insinuating that gay guys shouldn’t be proud of thier orientation either? They are supposed to hide in shame?

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There’s a difference between being proud of your sexuality and being proud of your straightness.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Here’s a situation I would like to hear some opinions on. It has developed over the past several months, but in recent weeks has escalated to the point of being more than just irritating.

An old friend of mine is gay. He had been a friend of my dads and has been around just about my whole life. While my dad was still alive, the guy was just like anybody else. He would hang out and have a couple beers, participate in family functions, all of the usual stuff that most freinds of my family participated in. The whole time, nobody ever thoght twice about the fact that he was gay. It was given about as much consideration as the sexuality of someone who isn’t. So my dad passes away about 13 years ago. Shortly after, the “friend” becomes about as forward as anybody could possibly be, telling me explicitly what he wants and even offering money for it. I asked him why he was suddenly so interested, and he explains that him and my father had an agreement. He can hang around, be part of the family, but no hitting on me or my brothers. He also explained that since dad died, the agreement dies with him. I told the “friend” that I’m straight, don’t have any interest in experimenting, and no thanks.
Time passes, and through out the past few years I’ve had a decent amount of interraction with the guy. He’s getting prety old, and has hired me to cut his grass and keep up his house a bit. The problem is that with every interaction with the guy he tries some way to coerce me into some gay sex with him. He’s offered money, drugs, and even offered to rent a whore so he could jump in(on me). In our last conversation he tried to explain that me having sex with him wouldn’t be gay, because I would be doing the same thing with him as I would be doing with my girlfriend. At this point, I lost it. I told him to either keep his libido in check, of just fuck off.

For the past couple of weeks the guy has been calling me very persistently, sometimes twice a day. I whon’t call back, because I’ve allready told the guy to fuck off. In 13 years this guy has not gotten the picture. My girlfriend is getting irritated with his incessant calling, and I’m getting pissed off because the old bastard whon’t leave me alone. I’m going to be talking to him later to tell him to quit bothering me(for the second time), but I seiously doubt that he will get the message.

So- Gay or straight, what do you make of that situation?
I’ve had a lot of interraction with homosexuals in the past, and tollerance for another sexuality doesn’t seem to be an issue, but this guy takes the fucking cake.
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Stop working for him and threaten him with legal action if he does not stop harrassing you. Oh, and go to the doctor to make sure you didn’t catch the gay.

[quote]BorisTheSpider wrote:

There’s a difference between being proud of your sexuality and being proud of your straightness.

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Realy? Why is it then that some think that we shoud “celebrate diversity” and that demonstrations of gay pride are fun and fabulous and all kinds of other happy horseshit, but being hetero is nothing to celebrate? It could easily be considered a foregone conclusion, and nothing to be excited about that people are straight. Why wouldn’t someone be equaly entitled to the same amount of pride as their equal opposite?
So what would be wrong with being a flamboyant hetero?

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
We are![/quote]

Those guys look brokeback (1).
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References:
(1) http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=900202&pageNo=0
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My sexuality is straightness. Can I be proud or not?

It isn’t so much of a work issue. The handy work is basicaly just a token payment. Some people don’t like having things done for free and a token allows them to keep a sense of sufficiency. You don’t bill them at a standard rate. It not like a sexual harassment/work issue.
It more like a complete lack of respect for my own sexual orientation, breech of a long standing trust, and the relationship that I have with my girlfriend.
It seems that the “you’re homophobic” and “these boards are homophobic” crowd aren’t taking in to consideration that I’m not the only person that has ever experienced some unwanted and downright irritating attention from a homosexual. That could be a reason for some peoples underlying or even obvious dislike for gays.

Thanks for the different persective Bauer and Zap. I’m going to take care of this situation this afternoon.

That don’t make me a homophobe, does it? (not that there’s anything wrong with that)

[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Oh, and go to the doctor to make sure you didn’t catch the gay.[/quote]

Nice. I was going to say hopefully he didn’t get AIDS from being in the same room with him. But then I realized that would be tasteless.

DB

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
It isn’t so much of a work issue. The handy work is basicaly just a token payment. Some people don’t like having things done for free and a token allows them to keep a sense of sufficiency. You don’t bill them at a standard rate. It not like a sexual harassment/work issue.[/quote]

Not sure if you’re addressing me here, but I think repeated and unwelcome advances of a strongly sexual nature are against the law, aren’t they, irrespective of the context in which they occur? I’m no lawyer, but my point was that you MIGHT have legal recourse if you wanted to go that route. I’m sure you’ll do what you need to do.

Now when you gonna bring me some good news there, muscle-arm? Come on, I have a tip for ya right here in my pocket…

[quote]Fonebone wrote:

Now when you gonna bring me some good news there, muscle-arm? Come on, I have a tip for ya right here in my pocket…[/quote]

That particular character is creepy as hell.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
It more like a complete lack of respect for my own sexual orientation, breech of a long standing trust, and the relationship that I have with my girlfriend.

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I think it goes well beyond what you’ve stated here. To me, this shows a complete disrespect for you (and your father) as a person, regardless of your sexual orientation. If you were gay and not interested, would his advances have ceased? I would guess not. This person is a tool whether he’s a man or a woman in this situation.

DB

[quote]aikigreg wrote:
One of my wrestlers that I coach is gay. The footbal players all think ALL my wrestlers are gay just because we wrestle…

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Reminds me of a standup comic I saw once. He said, “I used to wrestle in high school, but I was never very good because I always gave up after I came.”

I’m a lesbian in a mans body does that make me gay?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Fonebone wrote:

Now when you gonna bring me some good news there, muscle-arm? Come on, I have a tip for ya right here in my pocket…

That particular character is creepy as hell. [/quote]

Totally. But I just couldn’t get his image out of my head when I was reading that guy’s post. Still looking for a picture…

[quote]Fonebone wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Fonebone wrote:

Now when you gonna bring me some good news there, muscle-arm? Come on, I have a tip for ya right here in my pocket…

That particular character is creepy as hell.

Totally. But I just couldn’t get his image out of my head when I was reading that guy’s post. Still looking for a picture…[/quote]

This thread is all kinds of f*cked up now. WHO sabotaged it?

Here is my latest take … gayness does not so much bother men so long as it is behind closed doors … out of sight, out of mind. Gay, fine, but don’t grab my package.

On the other hand, queerness is bothersome. Totally annoying. Girly girls are already bothersome enough, but girly men are just too much to handle.

Girly men (btw, when do they go from gay to totally queer? is it a transiition, or a light switch?) … anyway, girly men outly and openly advertise their gayness. Look at me, I’m gay. It takes a serious effort … try to walk like that, then tell me it doesn’t.

I like analogies.

It’s like an NFL football player wearing his uniform and pads EVERYWHERE … look at me, I play football.

It’s like a doctor wearing his stethoscope and white coat everywhere … look at me, I’m a doctor.

It’s like a Stanfurd grad wearing his team garb everywhere … look at me, would you like fries with that?

The point being that gay, not gay, whatever … nobody cares. But don’t be a queen.

Dan

The adopted son of the drummer from Slayer is gay. But you would never be able to tell just by his appearance because he doesn’t act or dress gay

[quote]Fonebone wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Fonebone wrote:

Now when you gonna bring me some good news there, muscle-arm? Come on, I have a tip for ya right here in my pocket…

That particular character is creepy as hell.

Totally. But I just couldn’t get his image out of my head when I was reading that guy’s post. Still looking for a picture…[/quote]

How 'bout a clip?

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
BorisTheSpider wrote:

There’s a difference between being proud of your sexuality and being proud of your straightness.

Realy? Why is it then that some think that we shoud “celebrate diversity” and that demonstrations of gay pride are fun and fabulous and all kinds of other happy horseshit, but being hetero is nothing to celebrate? It could easily be considered a foregone conclusion, and nothing to be excited about that people are straight. Why wouldn’t someone be equaly entitled to the same amount of pride as their equal opposite?
So what would be wrong with being a flamboyant hetero? [/quote]

Ok, I guess I just responded to this bit:

“We’re supposed to run around as sexless beings bumping into each other for the sole purpose of reproducing? Ashamed that we love the ladies?”

without thinking about it too much. I don’t think being proud of your sexuality makes you insecure.

Anyway, I’m not anymore annoyed by very feminine men than I am by very feminine women. When I get hit on I just take it as a compliment.

[quote]Mr Reality wrote:
grey wrote:
I guess there must be something wrong with me?

Yes get professional help. you are an angry angry man.[/quote]

Your response is so gay it takes my breath away.

I like it when people are openly, flamboyantly gay. Cross-dressing drag queens, hardcore S&M leather guys, doesn?t matter.

Here is why:

They just don?t give a shit.

They know that there are people who will judge them for it, people will make fun of them, discriminate against them, they might get beaten up and they do it anyway, because they have only one life and that?s the way they want to live it.

They heard the clock ticking.

They did let go of the rock.