Awesome. Glad to be here.
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at what point do you suggest getting labs again? the doc wants me to get them in about 45 days i think, but i personally would like to get them sooner
My back has been stiff and joints have been more achey lately ā¦ would that be a sign of low E
45 days is wise. Based on the half life of Cypionate it will take approximately 45 days to stabilize or reach a steady state. Any bloodwork you pull for T or E before then doesnāt necessarily reflect where you will be in 6 weeks so you wouldnt want to make decisions based on those labs. Joint pain is associated with low e. I know my joints were in severe pain when I had low e.
Great post Fin. I see endo today and more than likely start injections. Iām a Nurse. So I like seeing how you listed weekly feelings. May start a blog my self or some type of log. Hopefully it will help someone else. Iām glad to hear energy and fog improved so quickly as those are my two major concerns. I can definitely tell the difference when lab draws said totally was 170 and times it was 300. Canāt wait to see what 7-800 feels like.
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good luck and keep us posted
yeah for some reason my back has been really ācreakyā lately and popping and cracking when i twist to try and get some relief ā¦ knees hurt going down stairs.
I would assume this would be a low E thing but that really doesnt make sense to me since im 6 wks in to injecting exogenous Test ā¦ should the E have risen to half way healthy level by now due to aromatization?
@alldayeveryday ā¦ more of the same today. I did feel strong at the gym but i think my joints feel creaky and ābrittleā for lack of a better word - spine and hands and knees but mainly when i go downstairs.
Also - i feel like over last 2 weeks roughly that I have had trouble recovering. Like i am dragging ass for a few days after workouts - and i do realize i am going hard at it in the gym but there just seems to be a downturn lately from a recovery standpoint. maybe its in my head maybe not. Also - my boys feel like they are tighter/closer to my body. not that i have testicular atrophy but its like my scrotum has gotten smaller ā¦ TMI i know
FGN whats your update on how its going so far
You could always go get an e2 sensitive test for a few bucks before a major lab.
At least youāll know if e2 is it. I havenāt seen many folks with joint issues on here except for those with low e2.
i think i will do that - get E2 and TT and FT from the discountlabs site i have seen others discuss
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Ya itās 40$ I think for jsut e2. You get all 3 for 80$ I think: just get e2.
Get it if you feel you absolutely have to but dont make any knee jerk reactions based on the results.
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have you taken it before?
What e2 test? Many many e2 test. Mucho mucho.
my bad - wrong thread. I thought i was replying to the thread about Pregnenolone. have you used that before?
No I havent used that. I just incorporated boron.
tell me if my thinking is wrong
All my levels - T, E, and DHT - were low (below the range) ā¦ i have been injecting 120/wk Cyp for 6 weeks nowā¦ shouldnt the T be aromatizing to E and shouldnt my E levels be normal to high at this point? I keep reading about guysā E jumpng up too high too quickly when they get on TRT but i havent seen anyone complain of a low E level ā¦ but this sounds like what i have. Dry skin. Achy joints. Stiff spine. Zero Lib.
Iāll put it to you like this. Yes. Your e2 levels should be elevated hopefully atleast into normal ranges. You will continue the course and as you do and your physiology changes over time so will your hormonal ratios. When I had <2.5 e2 and my doc gave me my first testosterone injection of 100 mg all the pain in my joints was gone within 3 days. Thatās me. 100 mg put me approximately 27 on e2. I felt amazing. I tell you this just for reference
you took 100 all at once ? that was your first injection?
what has your protocol been since then?
The doc injected 100 mg in the office on Friday and gave me the script for test cyp. I filled it and that following Monday I injected 50 mg then 50 mg Thursday evening. I did it like that for most of the spring and summer. I eventually started upping my dose myself. 120 mg. 160 mg. Blah blah blah.