[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
<<< Since it all goes to hell anyway, >>>
I’ve thought about this and more lately. I’m very close to the conclusion that human nature being what it is free societies like ours once was cannot last. Liberty and prosperity, which are 2 sides of the same coin, in a large populous quickly leads to complacency which leads to corruption which leads to disaster which leads to panic which leads to the surrender to tyranny on the promise of salvation. This time by design at the hands of the very ideology that inflicted the disaster.
This could not be possibly be any more excruciatingly plainer. The fact that the character of this country has fallen so far as to not recognize wolves even in wolves clothing is producing the most tragic, but predictable chapter in the history of nations.[/quote]
I agree, I think the larger a society becomes the more regulation that is required, sad but true
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
<<< Since it all goes to hell anyway, >>>
I’ve thought about this and more lately. I’m very close to the conclusion that human nature being what it is free societies like ours once was cannot last. Liberty and prosperity, which are 2 sides of the same coin, in a large populous quickly leads to complacency which leads to corruption which leads to disaster which leads to panic which leads to the surrender to tyranny on the promise of salvation. This time by design at the hands of the very ideology that inflicted the disaster.
This could not be possibly be any more excruciatingly plainer. The fact that the character of this country has fallen so far as to not recognize wolves even in wolves clothing is producing the most tragic, but predictable chapter in the history of nations.
I agree, I think the larger a society becomes the more regulation that is required, sad but true
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Interesting.
I think the larger a society gets the less regulation is possible.
I think you’re both somewhat correct and therein lies the conundrum.
It’s not just numbers though and this is one point that people just refuse to face.
There was once upon a time a distinctly American culture with distinctly American values which was at least tacitly recognized by the majority of American citizens. Although it was inconsistently practiced, and that to our shame, any person from anywhere in the world could join that culture and be just as American as someone with roots traceable to the Continental Army itself.
That was the melting pot, but there was only one pot.
Today that melting pot has been replaced by “multiculturalism” which means no more melting. Just dozens of different cultures all supposedly given equal public and political sway which in addition to destroying the once great multi ethnic yet voluntarily united society, is also by definition a manifest impossibility.
Multicultural means ,multi values and standards which leads inevitably straight into the jaws of division and the endless unceasing enactment of new and more complicated laws in a vain attempt at satisfying all sides. Or more accurately, whatever group is calculated to get you the most votes.
I contend that the original primary defining principles as set forth in our founding documents are to date the most effective at producing the highest state of affairs for the largest number of people. This is indisputably evinced by our very rapid and dominating ascension from 13 colonies to the most prosperous, powerful and free nation this planet has ever seen.
We are abandoning those principle at our own peril.
[quote]orion wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
<<< Since it all goes to hell anyway, >>>
I’ve thought about this and more lately. I’m very close to the conclusion that human nature being what it is free societies like ours once was cannot last. Liberty and prosperity, which are 2 sides of the same coin, in a large populous quickly leads to complacency which leads to corruption which leads to disaster which leads to panic which leads to the surrender to tyranny on the promise of salvation. This time by design at the hands of the very ideology that inflicted the disaster.
This could not be possibly be any more excruciatingly plainer. The fact that the character of this country has fallen so far as to not recognize wolves even in wolves clothing is producing the most tragic, but predictable chapter in the history of nations.
I agree, I think the larger a society becomes the more regulation that is required, sad but true
Interesting.
I think the larger a society gets the less regulation is possible.
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I would have to agree , but I would say the larger society the less control is possible
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
orion wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
orion wrote:
<<< Since it all goes to hell anyway, >>>
I’ve thought about this and more lately. I’m very close to the conclusion that human nature being what it is free societies like ours once was cannot last. Liberty and prosperity, which are 2 sides of the same coin, in a large populous quickly leads to complacency which leads to corruption which leads to disaster which leads to panic which leads to the surrender to tyranny on the promise of salvation. This time by design at the hands of the very ideology that inflicted the disaster.
This could not be possibly be any more excruciatingly plainer. The fact that the character of this country has fallen so far as to not recognize wolves even in wolves clothing is producing the most tragic, but predictable chapter in the history of nations.
I agree, I think the larger a society becomes the more regulation that is required, sad but true
Interesting.
I think the larger a society gets the less regulation is possible.
I would have to agree , but I would say the larger society the less control is possible