http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
I agree with you to an extent Pitt; however, the information is spoon feed to everyone via the label. I mean if you eat 5 servings of Fruity Pebbles in a sitting, which is 550 cal and 115g carbs (or 50% of your daily recommended amount of carbs) who’s fault is that? It is yours, not Post’s. No amount of government intervention short of government rationing will change this.
I mean there are even giant green boxes (like on the M&Ms) that make it almost impossible to miss the key nutritional breakdown of what you’re eating.
I guess if you can’t do basic math you’ll be in trouble, but my guess is you’ve got bigger problems on your hands. The government % guidelines are also a joke imo, but additional information will be in line with government guidelines so imo it will still be worthless.
Also those guidelines are for the companies that make the packaged foods. Consumer get the finished (read easy to digest) information on the package.
You can’t legislate out ignorance, laziness, or stupidity. It’s impossible.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
You can’t legislate out ignorance, laziness, or stupidity. It’s impossible. [/quote]
/thread
Thanks for the 7 page look into your head Zep.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]
Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]
Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]
No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.
Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.
Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]
Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]
No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.
Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.
Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[/quote]
Perfect, I would definitely want to live in a place like that!
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
Ah, I didn’t call you any name. You called me a “supreme ideologue” remember? And I’m not a proponent of zero market regulation. I was against the repeal of the uptick rule and Glass-Steagall. I’m also against the legalisation of marijuana. However I draw the line at regulation of cookies and soda.
BTW, you claim I’m only interested in my “side” winning. Whose “side” do you think I’m on?[/quote]
You may have not called me a name but implied that people who want something done by these actions OR the people who came up with the studies as “statists”.
The public ought to know the truth and it is a privilege not a right to sell a service or a product to the public and therefore certain rules need to be established. You seem to think all the evidence is balderdash but come up with no refutation except to say cookies should not be regulated. Do companies manipulate food ingredients in order to sell more product or not? And of so doesn’t the public have a right to know?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]
Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]
No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.
Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.
Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[/quote]
Perfect, I would definitely want to live in a place like that![/quote]
The companies ought to have to tell the truth to the public and let them decide.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
And I would hate for companies to be forced to tell the consumer what is going on with their product. That would be just awful.
[/quote]
THEY DO. IT’s RIGHT ON THE PACKAGE[/quote]
Prefect example. I’m pro the regulation that requires food labeling to show ingredients and macro (or is it micro) breakdowns.
I don’t think that is tyrannical, and I don’t think it places a burden on manufacturers in excess.
But, I think those labels are sufficient to allow consumers to makes informed choices. [/quote]
Even though most of the public does not know of the manipulation by subterfuge?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Brett620 wrote:
The problem is not a poor diet. It’s lack of activity. [/quote]
I think it’s both, but I certainly don’t blame Pepsi because dumb ass’ drink 64oz’s 3 times a day.
Quick side story, I was on duty with a Sgt years ago on a 24 hour post. Dude drank three 2 liter bottles of Pepsi during that time. Not a drop of water or anything else for that matter. Unreal, but that’s Pepsi’s fault, right?[/quote]
If they are manipulating ingredients to reward the pleasure area of the brain so as to make you want more then yes, they are culpable.
[/quote]
I’d hate for people to have to take some personal responsibility for what they eat. That would be just awful.
[/quote]
And I would hate for companies to be forced to tell the consumer what is going on with their product. That would be just awful.
[/quote]
THEY DO. IT’s RIGHT ON THE PACKAGE[/quote]
Really? Show me one package that details the manipulation of food ingredients to spur on food addiction.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]
Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]
No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.
Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.
Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[/quote]
Easier solution. Force companies to tell the truth of their food manipulation and then let the consumer decide.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
How can anyone make a valid decision if not all the information is at hand?
[/quote]
I have no idea if a crack high feels good or not. Not even in the most remote sense do I have all the information.
I still don’t smoke the shit. [/quote]
But the public is unaware of the manipulation of salt, sugar and fat to spur on food addiction but somehow we are to believe they can make an informed decision on what to choose for purchase.
Crack is widely known to have deleterious effects on a human. Enough to cause addiction and even death which is why you choose not to partake. The public has no idea of the manipulation of food ingredients done by subterfuge by the food corps and the ill-effects on their health all designed to increase the bottom line.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
You may have not called me a name but implied that people who want something done by these actions OR the people who came up with the studies as “statists”.
[/quote]
What else to call someone who wants the government to regulate what food we can eat or sell?
Well a socialist might consider it a privilege but I don’t live in a socialist country. Whether or not you do remains to be seen.
It’s not a question of “evidence” it’s a question of interpretation. You consider adding sugar, salt, fat and flavours to food a nefarious plot to turn consumers into addicts. I consider it “cooking.”
Depends what you mean. If by “manipulate” you mean “this stuff tastes like shit; maybe we should add more sugar” then yes, they do “manipulate” ingredients.
How come I can understand that eating chips, candy, and fast food by the bagfuls and drinking soda by the buckets is bad for me but most other people can’t? I can do this without any sort of medical sciences degree too. I can even eat only 1 Lay’s chip. I have to eat at least 2 Doritos however. I did eat some caribou steak once like it was crack. Shit was gooood. I wonder what those furry bastards put in their own meat to make it taste so good? I would know this even if they took the freaking label off the product.
I believe it’s called self control. If you don’t have it or cultivate it and in turn harm your health, too damn bad.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
How come I can understand that eating chips, candy, and fast food by the bagfuls and drinking soda by the buckets is bad for me but most other people can’t? I can do this without any sort of medical sciences degree too. I can even eat only 1 Lay’s chip. I have to eat at least 2 Doritos however. I did eat some caribou steak once like it was crack. Shit was gooood. I wonder what those furry bastards put in their own meat to make it taste so good? I would know this even if they took the freaking label off the product.
I believe it’s called self control. If you don’t have it or cultivate it and in turn harm your health, too damn bad.[/quote]
you must be reasonably intelligent
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf
132 page guideline on what has to be on a food label. I think 132 pages pretty much covers it. [/quote]
you act as though every one has your aptitude , they don’t .
Some people have no concept of what is a good diet , how to count calories or how to balance a diet .
You read it here people maintained a good weight eating shit and they think every one can .
Exercise is important but most figures I hear (and agree with) say it is %70 diet
[/quote]
So let’s just solve the entire problem and have the government give each citizen an approved diet.
[/quote]
Unless it comes rationed out in an amazon box delivered straight to our doors, that won’t work either.[/quote]
No no, much better than that. We’ll just get rid of markets in general and hove State run food stores. You’ll hand the stockperson (who makes $15 an hour) your “APPROVED CITIZEN FOODS LIST” for the month (get’s mailed to you on the 1st of every month) and that stockperson will put your weekly rations in your basket. You then take the basket up to the front counter and the Clearperson stamps your card, no need for cash as the government can just take that out of your pay in “FOOD TAXES”.
Then you can wait in line next Sunday morning and do the same thing.
Problem solved. No more evil Oreo Corporations.
[/quote]
Easier solution. Force companies to tell the truth of their food manipulation and then let the consumer decide.
[/quote]
I totally agree but I don’t think we will get our friends to agree because it is not ordained by the Republican party .