On Food Purveyors

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Let’s just put a warning label on everything and be done with it. People are apparently too stupid to think for themselves. [/quote]

How can someone think for themselves when they don’t have all the pertinent information?
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Eating is a biolocal imperative. Much like sex. It’s Brazzers fault that I’m a porn addict. If only they had led their MFFF videos with a warning of potential harmful effects of the product I voluntarily consumed. [/quote]

If food purveyors are trying to manipulate food ingredients to spur on food addiction to increase sales which in turn has negative side effects it ought to be disclosed.
[/quote]
Operative word: if[/quote]

What do the conclusions of the studies indicate? And do corporations spend millions of dollars to not come up with effective results? Why would a corporation spend money to mix the ingredients in a particular ratio?
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First of all, you used the word “if.”

Secondly, to answer your question, to make their products taste as good as possible in order to gain repeat customers. That is not the same things as creating products that are addictive.

Again, Econ 101. [/quote]

But they are creating products that have addictive qualities. This goes far beyond taste and you know it.

See Greed 101
[/quote]

Prove it. You have a blog post and some data. You do not have a consensus.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
If it really is free choice that consumers choose to eat food that can stimulate addictive qualities please explain how?
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I’m done. I can’t take you seriously.

Not one single time in my adult life have I eaten anything because of force or the threat of force. Neither has any other free person.

What planet do you live on?
[/quote]

Zoom right over your head…
[/quote]

People in the United States are not required by force to eat specific foods.

Prove me wrong.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Let’s just put a warning label on everything and be done with it. People are apparently too stupid to think for themselves. [/quote]

How can someone think for themselves when they don’t have all the pertinent information?
[/quote]

Eating is a biolocal imperative. Much like sex. It’s Brazzers fault that I’m a porn addict. If only they had led their MFFF videos with a warning of potential harmful effects of the product I voluntarily consumed. [/quote]

If food purveyors are trying to manipulate food ingredients to spur on food addiction to increase sales which in turn has negative side effects it ought to be disclosed.
[/quote]
Operative word: if[/quote]

What do the conclusions of the studies indicate? And do corporations spend millions of dollars to not come up with effective results? Why would a corporation spend money to mix the ingredients in a particular ratio?
[/quote]

First of all, you used the word “if.”

Secondly, to answer your question, to make their products taste as good as possible in order to gain repeat customers. That is not the same things as creating products that are addictive.

Again, Econ 101. [/quote]

But they are creating products that have addictive qualities. This goes far beyond taste and you know it.

See Greed 101
[/quote]

If you are so ignorant as to not eat yourself into an early grave,

See Natural Selection 101.[/quote]

What does natural selection have to do with the point of this thread?[/quote]
Everything you put in your mouth is by choice.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

Look at what happened with tobacco. Shyster lawyers made billions suing big tobacco, the government taxed the crap out of it and as smoking rates go down the consumers of tobacco are getting squeezed out of the market with exorbitant taxes and bombardment with anti-smoking propaganda. Is that what you want to start doing with food? Choke off our food supply? Is that where you’re going with this?
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You’re thinking along the same lines as I am, I just wanted him to walk through the steps on his own. Not that he would even understand the words that came out of his mouth, because once he hears “government” he’s done thinking, but it was worth a shot.

The fact is, those lawsuits would be tied to obesity, and then suddenly all those heffers on tumbldr talking about “thin privilege” would magically understand it isn’t healthy to be fat enough where you need two airline tickets and sue the shit out of EVERYONE![/quote]
Gimmie some if this freedom…

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
…but has to say those things so he doesn’t have to re-examine his position and thusly his desiccated ideology.[/quote]

Talk about irony.

[quote]
In addition he has shown no evidence that the addictive properties of the ratio of ingredients don’t have addictive qualities except to say they don’t. [/quote]

I am 100% confident they don’t. It’s really pretty simple. Food =/= drugs. Food addiction is not real at least in the sense you are pushing.

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Plus he keeps bringing up the argument that the ingredients are already listed, which is not the point. [/quote]
You have to be pretty ignorant to think the ingredients themselves aren’t important, but the “ratio’s” are.

[quote]
So he is either really stupid and doesn’t comprehend English[/quote]

An insult, get the fuck out. I can’t believe you’d stoop so low.

Lol, that same original post, which was a blog post by a whack job.

What a joke.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
The profit motive in disgraceful action.

http://io9.com/how-hyperpalatable-foods-could-turn-you-into-a-food-add-1575144399[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process â?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“These concerns aside, evidence is mounting in support of the idea that food addiction is actually a thing.”

“Though the addictive potential of foods continues to be debated…”

Just a few quotes from Dvorsky blog post, do you see the trend?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
If it really is free choice that consumers choose to eat food that can stimulate addictive qualities please explain how?
[/quote]
I’m done. I can’t take you seriously.

Not one single time in my adult life have I eaten anything because of force or the threat of force. Neither has any other free person.

What planet do you live on?
[/quote]

Zoom right over your head…
[/quote]

People in the United States are not required by force to eat specific foods.

Prove me wrong. [/quote]

You still don’t get it do you? Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along. Do the mixture of food ingredients spur on food addiction as concluded by the studies or not?
Would this have an effect on peoples consumption of them or not? The addictive quality is the point not whether people choose to consume it in the first place.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

You still don’t get it do you? Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along. Do the mixture of food ingredients spur on food addiction as concluded by the studies or not?

[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process â?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“Some” scientists have “suggested” and “postulated” that food “may possibly” etc.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
The profit motive in disgraceful action.

http://io9.com/how-hyperpalatable-foods-could-turn-you-into-a-food-add-1575144399[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process â?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“These concerns aside, evidence is mounting in support of the idea that food addiction is actually a thing.”

“Though the addictive potential of foods continues to be debated…”

Just a few quotes from Dvorsky blog post, do you see the trend?[/quote]

Don’t know who this dude is but he is merely reporting on the findings of the study apart from his personal beliefs which have nothing to do with his report.

Evidence is mounting. It continues to be debated. Where does the majority of the evidence fall? This would give an indication as to the validity of the theory would it not?

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

You still don’t get it do you? Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along. Do the mixture of food ingredients spur on food addiction as concluded by the studies or not?

[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process Ã?¢?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“Some” scientists have “suggested” and “postulated” that food “may possibly” etc.[/quote]

Where does the majority of the evidence fall that is the point. Scientists didn’t believe in Newtonian physics at first but hey…

I don’t see why “may possibly” is a reason not to inform the consumers as to what may happen.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

You still don’t get it do you? Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along. Do the mixture of food ingredients spur on food addiction as concluded by the studies or not?

[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process Ã??Ã?¢?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“Some” scientists have “suggested” and “postulated” that food “may possibly” etc.[/quote]

Where does the majority of the evidence fall that is the point. Scientists didn’t believe in Newtonian physics at first but hey…

I don’t see why “may possibly” is a reason not to inform the consumers as to what may happen.
[/quote]

“Some scientists” have “speculated” that “maybe” it’s a “possibility” that fluoridation of water is a mind control plot - an infamy so black and a conspiracy so large as to dwarf all others in the history of mankind. I say the evidence is mounting. A “consensus” is clearly apparent. The fact that you are “denying” that this consensus exists demonstrates that you are a shill for the fluoride overlords or a victim of mind control.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
…but has to say those things so he doesn’t have to re-examine his position and thusly his desiccated ideology.[/quote]

Talk about irony.

[quote]
In addition he has shown no evidence that the addictive properties of the ratio of ingredients don’t have addictive qualities except to say they don’t. [/quote]

I am 100% confident they don’t. It’s really pretty simple. Food =/= drugs. Food addiction is not real at least in the sense you are pushing.

[quote]
Plus he keeps bringing up the argument that the ingredients are already listed, which is not the point. [/quote]
You have to be pretty ignorant to think the ingredients themselves aren’t important, but the “ratio’s” are.

[quote]
So he is either really stupid and doesn’t comprehend English[/quote]

An insult, get the fuck out. I can’t believe you’d stoop so low.

Lol, that same original post, which was a blog post by a whack job.

What a joke. [/quote]

What is the main point of the study? The particular ingredients or the mixture of them?

Wow, so you’ve concluded from your own research that food doesn’t have the qualities to be addictive? Call up the food manufactures and let them know how much money and time they are wasting. You may even get a reward.

More reporting on the absolute lies of the food purveyors and their intention to sell more product no matter what,

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

You still don’t get it do you? Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along. Do the mixture of food ingredients spur on food addiction as concluded by the studies or not?

[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“Some” scientists have “suggested” and “postulated” that food “may possibly” etc.[/quote]

Where does the majority of the evidence fall that is the point. Scientists didn’t believe in Newtonian physics at first but hey…

I don’t see why “may possibly” is a reason not to inform the consumers as to what may happen.
[/quote]

“Some scientists” have “speculated” that “maybe” it’s a “possibility” that fluoridation of water is a mind control plot - an infamy so black and a conspiracy so large as to dwarf all others in the history of mankind. I say the evidence is mounting. A “consensus” is clearly apparent. The fact that you are “denying” that this consensus exists demonstrates that you are a shill for the fluoride overlords or a victim of mind control.
[/quote]

Does the majority of the evidence show this?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Let’s just put a warning label on everything and be done with it. People are apparently too stupid to think for themselves. [/quote]

How can someone think for themselves when they don’t have all the pertinent information?
[/quote]

Eating is a biolocal imperative. Much like sex. It’s Brazzers fault that I’m a porn addict. If only they had led their MFFF videos with a warning of potential harmful effects of the product I voluntarily consumed. [/quote]

If food purveyors are trying to manipulate food ingredients to spur on food addiction to increase sales which in turn has negative side effects it ought to be disclosed.
[/quote]
Operative word: if[/quote]

What do the conclusions of the studies indicate? And do corporations spend millions of dollars to not come up with effective results? Why would a corporation spend money to mix the ingredients in a particular ratio?
[/quote]

First of all, you used the word “if.”

Secondly, to answer your question, to make their products taste as good as possible in order to gain repeat customers. That is not the same things as creating products that are addictive.

Again, Econ 101. [/quote]

But they are creating products that have addictive qualities. This goes far beyond taste and you know it.

See Greed 101
[/quote]

Prove it. You have a blog post and some data. You do not have a consensus.
[/quote]
I have posted 5 articles talking about the mounting evidence. How many studies(not opinions)have you posted showing that is in fact does not occur?

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

You still don’t get it do you? Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along. Do the mixture of food ingredients spur on food addiction as concluded by the studies or not?

[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“Some” scientists have “suggested” and “postulated” that food “may possibly” etc.[/quote]

Where does the majority of the evidence fall that is the point. Scientists didn’t believe in Newtonian physics at first but hey…

I don’t see why “may possibly” is a reason not to inform the consumers as to what may happen.
[/quote]

“Some scientists” have “speculated” that “maybe” it’s a “possibility” that fluoridation of water is a mind control plot - an infamy so black and a conspiracy so large as to dwarf all others in the history of mankind. I say the evidence is mounting. A “consensus” is clearly apparent. The fact that you are “denying” that this consensus exists demonstrates that you are a shill for the fluoride overlords or a victim of mind control.
[/quote]

Does the majority of the evidence show this?
[/quote]

I say it does. How do we determine whether I’m right or wrong about what “the majority of evidence” shows? And since when is science based on majoritarian opinion? Science proves itself to the public via results - ie, I have a car therefore I believe in the science of the internal combustion engine. Or, I took these antibiotics and they cured my infection therefore I believe in their efficacy.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
The profit motive in disgraceful action.

http://io9.com/how-hyperpalatable-foods-could-turn-you-into-a-food-add-1575144399[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process Ã?¢?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“These concerns aside, evidence is mounting in support of the idea that food addiction is actually a thing.”

“Though the addictive potential of foods continues to be debated…”

Just a few quotes from Dvorsky blog post, do you see the trend?[/quote]

Don’t know who this dude is but he is merely reporting on the findings of the study apart from his personal beliefs which have nothing to do with his report.

Evidence is mounting. It continues to be debated. Where does the majority of the evidence fall? This would give an indication as to the validity of the theory would it not?
[/quote]

Serious question, are you mentally challenged?

That is your link. You posted that link in your OP.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
The addictive quality is the point not whether people choose to consume it in the first place.
[/quote]

Maybe in your tiny brain. No one goes through withdraw when they don’t get their daily “fix” of oreo’s.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Let’s just put a warning label on everything and be done with it. People are apparently too stupid to think for themselves. [/quote]

How can someone think for themselves when they don’t have all the pertinent information?
[/quote]

Eating is a biolocal imperative. Much like sex. It’s Brazzers fault that I’m a porn addict. If only they had led their MFFF videos with a warning of potential harmful effects of the product I voluntarily consumed. [/quote]

If food purveyors are trying to manipulate food ingredients to spur on food addiction to increase sales which in turn has negative side effects it ought to be disclosed.
[/quote]
Operative word: if[/quote]

What do the conclusions of the studies indicate? And do corporations spend millions of dollars to not come up with effective results? Why would a corporation spend money to mix the ingredients in a particular ratio?
[/quote]

First of all, you used the word “if.”

Secondly, to answer your question, to make their products taste as good as possible in order to gain repeat customers. That is not the same things as creating products that are addictive.

Again, Econ 101. [/quote]

But they are creating products that have addictive qualities. This goes far beyond taste and you know it.

See Greed 101
[/quote]

Prove it. You have a blog post and some data. You do not have a consensus.
[/quote]
I have posted 5 articles talking about the mounting evidence. How many studies(not opinions)have you posted showing that is in fact does not occur?[/quote]

I could Google “health value of HFCS” right now and provide article after article on the benefits of HFCS.

You haven’t proven anything.

Besides, reality is proof, I passed a McDonald’s this morning. Did I stop? No, I decided to make eggs for breakfast instead. That’s right, I got up 15 minutes earlier then I had to to make breakfast instead of stopping at the McDonald.

Personal Accountability.

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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along.
[/quote]

Go fuck yourself, follow those words asshole.

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[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:

You still don’t get it do you? Maybe I can find a way to place a little bouncing red ball above all the words so you can follow along. Do the mixture of food ingredients spur on food addiction as concluded by the studies or not?

[/quote]

How ‘Hyperpalatable’ Foods Could Turn You Into A Food Addict

‘Some neuroscientists have suggested that the rise of so-called “hyperpalatable foods” may partially explain the unprecedented rates of obesity.’

“Conditioned hypereating sounds suspiciously similar to what we might call food addiction. And indeed, studies have shown that hyperpalatable foods may be capable of triggering an addictive process Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? one that’s been postulated as a possible cause of the obesity epidemic.”

“Some” scientists have “suggested” and “postulated” that food “may possibly” etc.[/quote]

Where does the majority of the evidence fall that is the point. Scientists didn’t believe in Newtonian physics at first but hey…

I don’t see why “may possibly” is a reason not to inform the consumers as to what may happen.
[/quote]

“Some scientists” have “speculated” that “maybe” it’s a “possibility” that fluoridation of water is a mind control plot - an infamy so black and a conspiracy so large as to dwarf all others in the history of mankind. I say the evidence is mounting. A “consensus” is clearly apparent. The fact that you are “denying” that this consensus exists demonstrates that you are a shill for the fluoride overlords or a victim of mind control.
[/quote]

You have avoided the question without having any real substance behind what you are saying.