[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
If the public wanted to know they could simply look it up themselves. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
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Then why have ingredients listed? Couldn’t the consumer find out themselves somehow?
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Yes, by buying food from known and trusted sources. However, you corporatists/monopolists want to squeeze everyone into a one-size-fits-all box. Your leaders don’t want to allow people the freedom to choose from where their food comes. They want to force their products on people. If your leaders did that openly and honestly, they would be killed; instead, they do it with regulations that people are ignorant enough to believe are for “the common good”(or some such nonsense).
Then why have ingredients listed? Couldn’t the consumer find out themselves somehow?
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They could but the government knows the people are too lazy to do that so they pretend to help them by requiring food labels knowing full well it wouldn’t change the behavior of most people anyway. After all, these are the same people who believe the politicians in their party are different than the ones in the other party and are too stupid to realize politicians are for no one but themselves.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
It’s like blaming the bar if you’re an alcoholic. [/quote]
Tell me it is none of my business and I will; drop it but do you have your weight / body fat where you want it to be ?
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No, I don’t. It is 100% on me, however, that that is the case. [/quote]
My curiosity is whether yo know those puffed rice cereals have very little value in your diet ?
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Lol, Pitt, it was just an example. I’ve had the same bag for about a month now. I eat them right after my workout if at all with cinnamon and almond milk.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People do have a choice but I know from experience it is time consuming and work to eat right . Food prep and shopping for very perishable foods
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So the root cause of this whole obesity issue is laziness. I thought it was evil corporations manipulating consumers into food addiction. [/quote]
I would put the whole obesity thing at %70 diet and %30 activity
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And 100% not corporate America’s fault.
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I am trying not to lay fault , I am trying to fix a problem
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Me too.
Americans will never change unless they accept responsibility for their actions. Zep is trying to put the blame on an outside source (corporations) which is absurd. [/quote]
So you completely ignore the findings in the studies and the right for the consumer to know.[/quote]
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
So it is your position that it is okay for food purveyors to manipulate food ingredients for a desired response that acts on the same receptors as drugs to encourage more of that food item. This is okay even without public knowledge?
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I thought drugs were a poor comparison…[/quote]
Sad and poor understanding of the argument. You may even be borderline retarded so I just feel sorry for you.
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
What we really need are government warning labels on light bulbs exclaiming: “WARNING! Smoking meth is hazardous to your health!” My only lament is that the saddies who gorge on processed foods aren’t dying off quicker.[/quote]
No, what we REALLY need is a warning label on meth that has the exact details on how said meth was combined/cooked because clearly meth labs everywhere are manipulating meth to increase the brains reward response and it is the governments responsibility to make the general public aware of said," manipulation by subterfuge."
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This is a weak comparison as you are trying to equate the illegal with the legal.[/quote]
It’s a weak comparison when I make it, but when you make it it’s genius…
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
If I’m a retard I’ve got bad news for you. [/quote]
You have little to no understanding of the issue.
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"AdAge recently reported on American per capita beverage consumption for 2010. Perhaps it comes as no surprise that carbonated soft drinks are the most-consumed beverages, with an average of 44.7 gallons consumed per person, per year. "
45 gallons of soda a year. That’s 5,760 oz = 720 servings of Pepsi = 19,440 grams of sugar from soda alone a year (assuming Pepsi is the drink of choice). That’s about 288 sodas a year. I mean my God.
“Fast Food Still Major Part of U.S. Diet
Most Americans believe fast food is not “good for you”
by Andrew Dugan
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Eight in 10 Americans report eating at fast-food restaurants at least monthly, with almost half saying they eat fast food at least weekly. Only 4% say they never eat at fast-food restaurants. But slightly fewer Americans eat fast food weekly now than did so in 2006, when Gallup last asked about it.”
80% eat fast food monthly with 76% responding that the food itself was not too good or not good at all for them. YET THEY EAT IT ANYWAY
How the fuck can you possibly sit here and say it’s Corporate Americas fault people are fat. They put out a product or products that people clearly want.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Not, “How they manipulate the ingredients via subterfuge.”
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That will likely be his answer. But it is vapid and he knows it.
He won’t offer specifics, because he can’t. [/quote]
It’s probably because we just don’t understand the issue…[/quote]
To his credit Pitt can’t either.
They talk in general terms because they don’t have an answer beyond “more government”. Which, at least in Pitt’s case, it contrary to some of his other beliefs. (War on Drugs). So they linger around in generalities.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
What do you want on the food label that isn’t already there?
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Good luck, maybe since you’re asking you’ll get an actual answer. Not, “How they manipulate the ingredients via subterfuge.”
Whatever that means… [/quote]
I actually got an answer to that. This is what he wants the government to force them to print on their packaging:
“Manipulation of food ingredients can cause addiction as shown by numerous scientific studies. This product has been altered to spur on such addictions.”
^^This is apparently going to help stop the obesity epidemic. And if it doesn’t, I’m sure the statists will come up with more regulations. Maybe the government should just mandate what food we’re allowed to eat. People need government masterminds to micromanage every aspect of their lives. I know you guys are resistant to “change” but you need to realise that the president’s wife knows more about nutrition than you do.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
It’s like blaming the bar if you’re an alcoholic. [/quote]
Tell me it is none of my business and I will; drop it but do you have your weight / body fat where you want it to be ?
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No, I don’t. It is 100% on me, however, that that is the case. [/quote]
My curiosity is whether yo know those puffed rice cereals have very little value in your diet ?
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Lol, Pitt, it was just an example. I’ve had the same bag for about a month now. I eat them right after my workout if at all with cinnamon and almond milk.
They’re fine. [/quote]
if you think they are fine , you do not understand diet , that is unless your body weight and fat are where you want them to be
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
It’s like blaming the bar if you’re an alcoholic. [/quote]
Tell me it is none of my business and I will; drop it but do you have your weight / body fat where you want it to be ?
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No, I don’t. It is 100% on me, however, that that is the case. [/quote]
My curiosity is whether yo know those puffed rice cereals have very little value in your diet ?
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Lol, Pitt, it was just an example. I’ve had the same bag for about a month now. I eat them right after my workout if at all with cinnamon and almond milk.
They’re fine. [/quote]
if you think they are fine , you do not understand diet , that is unless your body weight and fat are where you want them to be
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
What do you want on the food label that isn’t already there?
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Good luck, maybe since you’re asking you’ll get an actual answer. Not, “How they manipulate the ingredients via subterfuge.”
Whatever that means… [/quote]
I actually got an answer to that. This is what he wants the government to force them to print on their packaging:
“Manipulation of food ingredients can cause addiction as shown by numerous scientific studies. This product has been altered to spur on such addictions.”
^^This is apparently going to help stop the obesity epidemic. And if it doesn’t, I’m sure the statists will come up with more regulations. Maybe the government should just mandate what food we’re allowed to eat. People need government masterminds to micromanage every aspect of their lives. I know you guys are resistant to “change” but you need to realise that the president’s wife knows more about nutrition than you do.[/quote]
What I would want is a simple program that would help people like USMC understand diet . If USMC understood diet he may cut short a boat load of health problems when he becomes older
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
It’s like blaming the bar if you’re an alcoholic. [/quote]
Tell me it is none of my business and I will; drop it but do you have your weight / body fat where you want it to be ?
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No, I don’t. It is 100% on me, however, that that is the case. [/quote]
My curiosity is whether yo know those puffed rice cereals have very little value in your diet ?
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Lol, Pitt, it was just an example. I’ve had the same bag for about a month now. I eat them right after my workout if at all with cinnamon and almond milk.
They’re fine. [/quote]
if you think they are fine , you do not understand diet , that is unless your body weight and fat are where you want them to be
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
It’s like blaming the bar if you’re an alcoholic. [/quote]
Tell me it is none of my business and I will; drop it but do you have your weight / body fat where you want it to be ?
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No, I don’t. It is 100% on me, however, that that is the case. [/quote]
My curiosity is whether yo know those puffed rice cereals have very little value in your diet ?
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Lol, Pitt, it was just an example. I’ve had the same bag for about a month now. I eat them right after my workout if at all with cinnamon and almond milk.
They’re fine. [/quote]
if you think they are fine , you do not understand diet , that is unless your body weight and fat are where you want them to be
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Thanks for the tip…
No rice while dieting, interesting…
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did you ever have that black rice that takes about an hour to cook , now that is some good shit:)
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
It’s like blaming the bar if you’re an alcoholic. [/quote]
Tell me it is none of my business and I will; drop it but do you have your weight / body fat where you want it to be ?
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No, I don’t. It is 100% on me, however, that that is the case. [/quote]
My curiosity is whether yo know those puffed rice cereals have very little value in your diet ?
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Lol, Pitt, it was just an example. I’ve had the same bag for about a month now. I eat them right after my workout if at all with cinnamon and almond milk.
They’re fine. [/quote]
if you think they are fine , you do not understand diet , that is unless your body weight and fat are where you want them to be
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
It’s like blaming the bar if you’re an alcoholic. [/quote]
Tell me it is none of my business and I will; drop it but do you have your weight / body fat where you want it to be ?
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No, I don’t. It is 100% on me, however, that that is the case. [/quote]
My curiosity is whether yo know those puffed rice cereals have very little value in your diet ?
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Lol, Pitt, it was just an example. I’ve had the same bag for about a month now. I eat them right after my workout if at all with cinnamon and almond milk.
They’re fine. [/quote]
if you think they are fine , you do not understand diet , that is unless your body weight and fat are where you want them to be
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Thanks for the tip…
No rice while dieting, interesting…
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did you ever have that black rice that takes about an hour to cook , now that is some good shit:)
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