Old Guy Starting Judo?

[quote]Res Judicata wrote:
Also, as a general rule, ne waza (ground work) is a a lot easier on the body than tachi waza (standing work) and you’ll get better at it faster. [/quote]

For the record, I ate the knee and hurt my foot doing ne waza. But I felt the most beat up after a long stretch of tachi waza.

My wife is starting to complain more and more about all the pain. Might have to let her bail at some point. She’s in for a few more months at least, but it’s starting to get to her a little bit.

[quote]kmcnyc wrote:
Hey Judo is a great sport, its very cool you are doing it with family too.

I am on the other side of your story, Im 38 but played judo and wrestled for years.
Yes you can get hurt from playing judo but don’t worry about it too much.
You can get hurt doing most things.
And Yes if pressed I will answer that I can no longer play too much judo
from getting banged up wrestling in college and beyond college.

Ill give you a few tips, if you like.
Like others said you are going to spend a good deal of time learing Ukemi
or break falls,
its what we do. We fall.

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Been doing this for about 2 weeks. I’m not “old,” but I’m not a spring chicken either.

In between practice break falls, I try to relax so that I’m relaxed before my next fall. Seems to help a lot. When I tense up, my falls suck.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
kmcnyc wrote:
Hey Judo is a great sport, its very cool you are doing it with family too.

I am on the other side of your story, Im 38 but played judo and wrestled for years.
Yes you can get hurt from playing judo but don’t worry about it too much.
You can get hurt doing most things.
And Yes if pressed I will answer that I can no longer play too much judo
from getting banged up wrestling in college and beyond college.

Ill give you a few tips, if you like.
Like others said you are going to spend a good deal of time learing Ukemi
or break falls,
its what we do. We fall.

Been doing this for about 2 weeks. I’m not “old,” but I’m not a spring chicken either.

In between practice break falls, I try to relax so that I’m relaxed before my next fall. Seems to help a lot. When I tense up, my falls suck. [/quote]

This is something that’ll come naturally. If you’re getting thrown and it’s gone beyond the point of being able to block it, relax and let it happen. It definitely make the landing less painfull.

[quote]gonugs wrote:
Res Judicata wrote:
Also, as a general rule, ne waza (ground work) is a a lot easier on the body than tachi waza (standing work) and you’ll get better at it faster.

For the record, I ate the knee and hurt my foot doing ne waza. But I felt the most beat up after a long stretch of tachi waza.

My wife is starting to complain more and more about all the pain. Might have to let her bail at some point. She’s in for a few more months at least, but it’s starting to get to her a little bit.[/quote]

Tell her to not go so hard. Judo is no good if you don’t have fun doing it. Granted at some point everyone gets hurt, but the idea is to make that the exception not the rule. Especially since this is prob. a hobby for you and her.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
kmcnyc wrote:
Hey Judo is a great sport, its very cool you are doing it with family too.

I am on the other side of your story, Im 38 but played judo and wrestled for years.
Yes you can get hurt from playing judo but don’t worry about it too much.
You can get hurt doing most things.
And Yes if pressed I will answer that I can no longer play too much judo
from getting banged up wrestling in college and beyond college.

Ill give you a few tips, if you like.
Like others said you are going to spend a good deal of time learing Ukemi
or break falls,
its what we do. We fall.

Been doing this for about 2 weeks. I’m not “old,” but I’m not a spring chicken either.

In between practice break falls, I try to relax so that I’m relaxed before my next fall. Seems to help a lot. When I tense up, my falls suck. [/quote]

That is the norm. I remember training with a guy after class for a few weeks so we would get over the fear of just being thrown. It helps you become a better uki, after a while you get used to it and just go for the ride.

[quote]haney1 wrote:
gonugs wrote:
Res Judicata wrote:
My wife is starting to complain more and more about all the pain. Might have to let her bail at some point. She’s in for a few more months at least, but it’s starting to get to her a little bit.

Tell her to not go so hard. Judo is no good if you don’t have fun doing it. Granted at some point everyone gets hurt, but the idea is to make that the exception not the rule. Especially since this is prob. a hobby for you and her.
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Yeah, my wife has one speed and she’s very competitive. But she can be a bit of a wuss too. We’ll see how it goes. She’s in for a while more. Thanks again.

Dumb, annoying update. Had to get my foot x-rayed. No break. Some sort of soft tissue injury that won’t go away. During Randori I had to stomp my foot back behind me because my partner stood up and tried to go over the top on me. Very lame. Can’t do sprints anymore and the thing just won’t heal.

Sorry to hear about your foot soft tissue problem. I’ve had some weird pains and aches that have stayed for 2-3 months sometimes from Judo. My suggestion would be to massage the area every day if possible, as well as alternating heat and cold in the evenings, if nothing else it will increase blood and fluid flow/renewal in the area which is definitely a good thing. Stretching it might be good as well, but only if there isn’t a tear I’d say.

My PT gave me some good advice once when I had semi-chronic inflammation of my bicep long/short head tendons, which was to massage the area HARD. The reasoning he gave me was that sometimes when you’ve had an inflammation in the same area for a long time, it’s as if the body’s repair response is somehow hampered or desensitized. So while the area is inflamed and painful, it’s not healing. By massaging very hard (and painfully), he explained, may alarm the natural healing response. Made good sense to me given how our bodies became desensitized to all kinds of stimuli.

Otherwise a great thread. I started Judo almost 2 years ago and I am still getting “new” pains and aches once in a while, but my experience is that once I get over them my body becomes stronger and stronger – and my judo better and better :slight_smile:

This update is simply to amuse people with how bad a beating I’m taking in judo.

Yesterday I got paired up with a new guy who has taken jujitsu for years, wrestled in high school, and now competes in open wrestling tournaments. He thought it would be good to learn some judo too. His neck and traps were insane. He was also about 15 years younger than me. So that was a great idea.

I blew some blood vessels in my right eye. It’s really pretty. I think that happened when I was trying to fight my way out of a choke hold. Probably should have tapped.

Somehow I received a bruise around my right nostril.

I also have a really weird red line going vertically down the left side of my face. I think it was the time I hit the mat face first and then slid for a couple of inches.

I had a great time though. Lots of fun.

Also, soft tissue injury in my foot comes and goes.

[quote]gonugs wrote:
This update is simply to amuse people with how bad a beating I’m taking in judo.

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ha ha. awesome. have you read griffin’s “got fight”? he talks about building up that cauliflower face of his and sounds like you are well on your way. i’m way older and doing fairtex stuff just for sport and fun. life is good

[quote]thruxton45 wrote:

[quote]gonugs wrote:
This update is simply to amuse people with how bad a beating I’m taking in judo.

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ha ha. awesome. have you read griffin’s “got fight”? he talks about building up that cauliflower face of his and sounds like you are well on your way. i’m way older and doing fairtex stuff just for sport and fun. life is good[/quote]

The guy that gave me the beat down had really sweet cauliflower ears. I knew I was screwed when I spotted them.

I’ll have to look up “Got Fight?” soon. Sounds good.

I’m just glad to be able to take the beating and keep on going. I’m avoiding getting into any striking stuff. The grappling is rough enough for now.

Life is good, but my eye looks nasty and my wife is pissed that I didn’t tap. Oh well.

Got fight is really worth purchasing it, i haven’t had so much fun reading a book in a long time.

Last update. Got a bad ankle sprain. Big guy (50 lbs heavier than me) went straight at me and I decided it would be a good idea to stand him up. I heard a crunchy noise in my left ankle. It’s been 5 days and most of the swelling is gone. I’m too old for this crap.

I’m gonna miss judo.

You gonna lay off for a few months to let the ankle heal, or are you done done? Judo is definitely a rough and tumble sport. My club only retains 20-25% of people who try it out.

I think I’m done. 3 injuries in a year. Each one set back my lifting and totally throws off my schedule. I think it’s best for me to call it a day with the judo. I’ve got other sports that I enjoy that don’t involve these kinds of injuries. Wish I would have gotten into this when I was little. We’ll let the kids keep going. Thanks again for all the encouragement though. Judo was a lot of fun.

[quote]Steve-O-68 wrote:
You gonna lay off for a few months to let the ankle heal, or are you done done? Judo is definitely a rough and tumble sport. My club only retains 20-25% of people who try it out. [/quote]

Sounds like a high number compared to my Dojo. I have been laying off due to a knee issue.

[quote]gonugs wrote:
I think I’m done. 3 injuries in a year. Each one set back my lifting and totally throws off my schedule. I think it’s best for me to call it a day with the judo. I’ve got other sports that I enjoy that don’t involve these kinds of injuries. Wish I would have gotten into this when I was little. We’ll let the kids keep going. Thanks again for all the encouragement though. Judo was a lot of fun.[/quote]

Sad to hear it. Judo has taught me to play smarter so I can avoid injuries, but it stills takes a toll on you. Good luck with your other interests.

I think aside from what ive seen in the thread (i skimmed), keep in mind the human body has an amazing ability to adapt.

All the minor bumps and brusies will go away or become much harder to have in the future. A few bumps and bruises happen in EVERY contact sport. Friends who play everything from Basketball to hockey (non-pro’s) who do it for fun all have small nagging injuries. its a part of being active and competitive.

Do what others say, focus on break falls and over time your body will adapt to the minor bumps and bruises.

The most important part is that you’re having fun. Forget the macho attitude that gets thrown around sometimes… odds are they arent from fighters.

The fact that you’ve stepped up and put what you’ve trained to the test against a people much younger and more physically fit should be something you pat your self on the back about. Good job and good luck!