[quote]deanosumo wrote:
bluey wrote:
Boston Barrister I agree with you a 100%
If you type the words ?Sydney, Lebanese and gang rape? into a search engine and read the results I don?t know how you can be an advocate for multiculturalism, especially if you are a woman.
I’m familiar with the cases you mention. Terrible rapes. But those men broke the laws of Australia. It’s not so much a cultural issue, as a legal one. Therefore they deserve the strongest punishment. End of story! Would you deport all Lebanese from Australia? Or will you just light white crosses on their front lawns?
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… while goosestepping and speaking German. Sorry I am mixing my metaphors, which works better to stifle dissent calling someone a Nazi or a member of the Ku Klux Clan?
Other than the name-calling:
But it is a cultural issue (and the attacks are too numerous to be excused as isolated incidents). When even Lebanese spiritual leaders express such contempt:
Veiled threat an insult to all
By Miranda Devine
April 24, 2005
The Sun-Herald
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Muslim cleric: women incite men’s lust with ‘satanic dress’
At Bankstown Town Hall last month, just three kilometres from the scene of one of the most horrific of the gang rapes of 2000, a young and popular Lebanese Muslim sheik told a packed audience that rape victims have “no one to blame but themselves”.
These are the words of Sheik Faiz Mohamad, 34, to more than 1000 people squeezed into the hall on March 18, as recorded digitally by a concerned citizen.
“A victim of rape every minute somewhere in the world. Why? No one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world. She degraded herself by being an object of sexual desire and thus becoming vulnerable to man who looks at her for gratification of his sexual urge.”
There was much more about women’s responsibilities and the sins of the “kaffir” (infidel) that night from the charismatic former boxer and Liverpool Global Islamic Youth Centre teacher. But there was nothing about the responsibility of men to exercise self-restraint, even though most of the audience was male.
Sheik Faiz declined requests on Friday to be interviewed, so we don’t know if he is aware of the implications of what he said. But in a community still reeling from the spate of racially motivated gang rapes by Lebanese Muslim males from Bankstown and surrounds, it was extraordinarily impolitic.
“Strapless, backless, sleeveless, nothing but satanic skirts, slit skirts, translucent blouses, miniskirts, tight jeans,” he shouted into the microphone. “All this to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature.”
Mostly he appealed to Muslim women to wear the hijab (head covering), which, incidentally, has become fashionable on global catwalks since France banned it in public schools last year.
Born in Sydney of Lebanese parents, Faiz embraced Islam at 19 and spent several years studying in Saudi Arabia. On the one hand, he numbers among his friends and students such positive role models as Bulldogs league star Hazem El Masri and boxing champion Anthony Mundine, testament to the clean-living discipline of Islam.
On the other hand, the centre at which he teaches has attracted controversy over the actions of two former students. Supermarket shelf-stacker Zaky Mallah, 21, was last week sentenced to two years’ jail for threatening to kill Commonwealth officials and Muslim convert Jack Roche, 51, was convicted last year of plotting to blow up the Israeli embassy in Canberra.
Many in Sydney’s Lebanese Muslim community reject Faiz’s comments but are reluctant to speak on the record.
“Islam teaches that a woman could walk in front of you naked and you are supposed to be strong enough to say no,” said one Muslim leader. “It is a test of your faith.”
Faiz could be a good influence on young people, “if he calms down and gets rid of his anger . . . and understood the impact of his words. It’s not what he would do [that’s a problem]. It’s what he says; he colours the minds of young people.”
A non-Muslim who lives in Auburn and attended Faiz’s lecture said: “My biggest concern is that the Muslims who come to our country and just want to mind their own business, get a job, have a family and a home life with freedom, are progressively being pressured by their own community leaders to conform. The mould [they] are being pressed into is not good for them and not good for Australian society.”
Faiz’s view that unveiled women invite rape does Muslims a disservice by promoting an image which is repugnant to the majority of his fellow citizens. After all, when a judge feels so strongly that he would stand in front of a group of strangers, as one did in recent weeks, and make the comment that Lebanese Muslim men are a “cancer”, you know the community has an image problem which Faiz isn’t helping.
Faiz may not care but his words are a slap in the face to the brave young woman, known to the courts as Miss C, who was raped 25 times by 14 men over six hours outside the Bankstown Trotting Club and elsewhere in 2000.
At worst, his words sanction the kind of contempt for non-Muslim women that led those gang rapists to regard 18-year-old Miss C, dressed in her best suit for a job interview, sitting on a train reading The Great Gatsby, as an “Aussie pig” and slut.
“I looked in his eyes. I had never seen such indifference,” Miss C testified.
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And your are wrong to say that it does affect your way of life. The message from some Muslims is clear “wear the hijab or be raped”
So what would you do? Allow more of the same (via future immigration) but deal with the fallout through the proper legal channels? What kind of solution is that? No solution.
This is multiculturalism in practice not theory.
?Exotic girls are hot!? as you say but for some Muslim men they care not if they are willing.
