It’s relevant to your assertion that one must have their ideology tested in debate for it to be relevant.
Who did Marx debate? How about Chomsky? Mao?
Proving you have no idea how MMT works and what it actually is. You’re ignorance makes me dizzy.
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Thank you, English teacher!
How is a debate relevant? You brought debates into the conversation. Some people may not be good debaters, and others may be great. It makes ZERO difference, when whether an IDEA is good or bad is being discussed.
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Still curious how you believe @Bauber business behavior would change.
I mean, you’re the one with all the brains. Surely, if anyone knows, you would know.
Got a mirror? I’ll show you an oxygen thief.
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No because once his points are mentioned he doesn’t have much to say so he regurgitates the same thing.
Yes. Even in this thread example the ‘Evil’ oil companies made their money by providing a tool for societal advangements
I did. I just don’t take it as gospel. Certainly when there are many other sources showing the good evil billionaires do with their money.
Yes that’s human nature.
Those who cry and want to tear apart the system are those who can’t thrive in the system and those who want to uphold it are those who are at the top/ in control.
But answer me this. Even if (IF) the system helped cause the starving, who gives more to reduce it’s effects? The rich who want to keep the system going or the poor broke people?
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Who said this?
So causing the starvation is justified? What a twisted person you are.
So take advantage of those who have no money and no power as long as you can profit from it and hold onto power?
Some call it price gouging. A lot of people do. But hey, as long as they can make more money that makes it right.
The super rich don’t cause the starvation. I said if for a reason. And you still haven’t answered the question. Who reduces it’s effect more? The fact is the poor help no one.
The irony is that those who want to tear the system apart are the ones who want to do it for their own interest. So what you are saying is: “Tear the system and remove money and power from those who have so others can take advantage and profit from it”
That doesn’t refute what I said and it goes off topic. Those oil companies contribute something for the good of society (regardless of their profits). You cannot make a lot of money nor price gouge if what you are offering is not deemed valuable enough to be paid for.
Personally don’t think this falls under price gouging but even if (IF being key word) it was, society would be worse off without these companies.
And you haven’t answered the question. Who keeps the system going that cause starvation along with a myriad of other catastrophes?
Yeah like survival. How dare they.
Now you’ve moved beyond ignorance and into sheer stupidity.
Society would be so much better off w/o these assholes. Do you realize how many wars are started over oil? So the price-gouging is only part of the detriment. Then we can get into the destruction of the environment. What do you think the oil industry may be doing to slow down the release of renewable energies to keep their gravy train going?
No one actively keeps the causes of starvation going. Does the super rich not solve the issue despite having the means to end it? Yes but they don’t have a duty to.
Name one billionaire or super rich or hell even profitable company that does not sell something of value.
It is stupid to think that people will part with their hard earned cash for things which they do not need. When was the last time you saw balloon makers price gouge? Never because no one would pay a ridiculous amount for that.
So no cars, no planes, no travel across countries, no heating in homes etc is better for society?
Rush Limbaugh used to say, the best way to help the poor is don’t be one.
Do you realize how many people would starve to death without oil?
@castoli You are inherently advocating for using government force to take what people have earned over voluntary agreements. How can you see that as moral?
Again, they keep the current system going for their own financial benefit. Do they actually take food out of the mouths of people? No. But you don’t need to do something as directly as that to cause starvation.
What are the issues they solve?
It is extremely stupid to equate balloon makers with the oil industry. Do people need balloons? No. Do they need gas? Yep, try to survive w/o it. You pretend that not using gasoline would be a choice.
Have you ever heard of electric cars and new technology? How about less wars and less pollution
Case and point. People need gas. The oil industry provides that need therefore they are a benefit to society.
I have. Last I heard Elon Musk is good at making those type of cars and is also a Billionaire
Yes, so they can hold people hostage over it’s use.
So are you saying we don’t need oil?
What are you talking about?
So the killing in wars is justified?