"The outbreak of violence during an Occupy event in Oakland, California illustrated the underlying threat that was always lurking beneath the surface of entitlement that characterized the wave of leftist demonstrations around the country. But the fact that one person injured during the attempt of the demonstrations to reclaim an area that had already been declared by the city to be off limits has already changed the narrative to one of heroic martyrdom and alleged police brutality from the misbehavior of the Occupy crowd.
The fractured skull of Scott Olsen, a former Marine who served two tours in Iraq, is being put forward as a rallying point by the Occupy movement as vigils are being held in his honor around the country. But Olsen?s injury is serving to obscure the fact that the Oakland crowd was throwing rocks at police in an attempt to have their way. Rather than being a symbol of a victim of ?corporate greed? and the ?war economy,? the behavior of Olsen and his fellow Occupiers illustrates the fundamentally undemocratic and brutish nature of the demonstrators that gives the lie to attempts by the liberal mainstream media to cast as them as a reasonable answer to the law-abiding and peaceful Tea Party.
It is a source of no small amount of frustration for conservatives that the Tea Party has been slandered by the media as racist and violent even though the movement is innocent of the former and guilty of nothing more than rude and abrasive remarks directed at members of Congress at town hall meetings. Yet the presence of extremists and offensive signs (including those that were anti-Semitic) at Occupy gatherings has been either ignored or rationalized while the squatters were lionized for their supposed idealism. The question now is whether outbreaks of violence will put an end to this double standard.
One would expect that many of the Democrats who have been cheering on a group of anti-capitalists seeking to undermine the system would start to run for cover once Occupiers started throwing rocks at cops in a town where the municipal government is openly sympathetic to their aims. But by exploiting Olsen as a martyr, leftists hope to gain even more sympathy."
I don’t care about if people agree with the motivations for these protests, but to see such violence towards unarmed, non-aggressive civilians in our own backyard is mind blowing.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
^^^ Someone should ask Stinky Longstocking what cops should use when being pelted with rocks and bottles, harsh language ? [/quote]
Sunshine and flowers of course. I drove past the flea party squatters in boston and I really wish I had a molotov cocktail the place would have gone up quick. I despise these self rightous entitled clowns. There is no job shortage, I get at least one call a day from a headhunter asking if I want to consider employment in banks, insurence, F and I(car loan people), etc not bad for a college drop out huh?
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Mercedes hits 2 Occupy Oakland protesters
If only someone who lives in the area and has seen how other protests in Oakland deteriorate had called that this was going to happen…oh, wait…I think I did…
Setting barricades on fire, breaking store windows, throwing more shit at cops, beating on cars, tagging walls…woot for peaceful protests!
You cannot use lethal force to protect yourself or property in california can you?
If it were my private property, I would have clips loaded and ready to keep firing, a high velocity 5.56 round can go through about 3 or 4 in a line. problem solved.
I have a liberal friend who supported the OWS group and said I was crazy for saying they were tools and idiots who would turn violent. She works in Philly at the comcast building. She changed her mind when they stormed her building yesterday, threw bottles of piss at the workers, injured security and tried stab SWAT.
She then also changed her opinion of all her news media who said it was just a peaceful demonstration and the cops were out of line arresting the peaceful demonstrators. She said it is all orchestrated for media. there were 2 separate groups, the one they filmed sitting peacefully and the ones that first came in violently. So they film the peaceful ones, then show the violent ones being subdued, then the peaceful ones move in to the role of the violent ones.
[quote]apbt55 wrote:
You cannot use lethal force to protect yourself or property in california can you?
If it were my private property, I would have clips loaded and ready to keep firing, a high velocity 5.56 round can go through about 3 or 4 in a line. problem solved.
I have a liberal friend who supported the OWS group and said I was crazy for saying they were tools and idiots who would turn violent. She works in Philly at the comcast building. She changed her mind when they stormed her building yesterday, threw bottles of piss at the workers, injured security and tried stab SWAT.
She then also changed her opinion of all her news media who said it was just a peaceful demonstration and the cops were out of line arresting the peaceful demonstrators. She said it is all orchestrated for media. there were 2 separate groups, the one they filmed sitting peacefully and the ones that first came in violently. So they film the peaceful ones, then show the violent ones being subdued, then the peaceful ones move in to the role of the violent ones.
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I am not clear on the law on this, but I doubt it. In this fucking state, you pretty much have to have a person carrying a gun pointing it at you to be able to shoot them.
The only good thing here, is that people are taking issues right to the ballot box and bypassing the bought-and-paid-for state legislature. By public referendum, we have collective bargaining, spending cap, Union pensions, and the California Dream Act all up for a public vote rather than the Democruds passing everything without the public opinion.
Our latest cluster-fuck is a bullet train project originally expected to cost $34 Billion now projected to cost $98.5 Billion. The voters have raised bloody hell to get this undone.