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I would think Zebs point wasn’t so much that any particular form of communication is unavaliable to god, just that any form god used would not have a clearer or better effect (lest god mess around with free will).

Of course, even if that is what Zeb meant, it still leaves the contemptuous observation that the ALL POWERFUL Sky Wizard cant come up with a way to get human beings to listen.

Thought a bit today, TBG, about your comment about building a farm and having a plan for the ants. The funny thing would be finding out that the ants argue among themselves about the existence of the Great Ant who created them.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Incidentally, you seem to be repeating words that I’ve used. I find that quite odd. At times I feel that all you are is a hollow echo chamber. If I use the word arrogance rest assured at some point in your follow up you’ll use the word arrogance. You’ve done this three or four times now. I have an 8 year old that does this too so I understand where you’re coming from.
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This is exactly what he does. It’s very creepy. Look at his last response to me. I specifically wrote “whiny” and “last word” and his “retort” involved exactly the same, as if they were some sort of original comeback. I have someone very close to me who is a very long term alcoholic who exhibits the self-same disturbing behavior. You’ll say something, and he’ll immediately repeat the exact same thing using only slightly different words, as if he were the first person ever to have said it, and somehow no one remembered that it was first said exactly 15 seconds earlier.

It’s even weirder on the internet where all you have to do is look up a few inches to see the words right before you.
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LOL here we go again with Japan’ equivilent of Flava Flav. Yeeeaaaah Booooooiiiiii !!! Do you ever have anything of substance to add, or are you limited to saying “yeah” and throwing around stupid insults. Here’s a hint; When someone uses what you say, they are mocking you. I’m mocking you ya lil dummy.[/quote]

I have around 3000 posts that many on this site will attest have been either very helpful (Steroid forum) or rich in content (PWI). What mysteriously happens, though, is where ever you happen to turn up, all value and content in any given thread or post is suddenly sucked away with an enormous slurping sound into the black hole of your ego.

I’ll bet your life is characterized by a vast, unbroken series of short-lived relationships with people that inevitably end acrimoniously, always due to some flaw in their character or slight to your person, always wholly the fault of the other, time after time, again and again. Trust me, being “mocked” by the likes of you is about as close to a compliment as you could hope to give me.

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[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
I would think Zebs point wasn’t so much that any particular form of communication is unavaliable to god, just that any form god used would not have a clearer or better effect (lest god mess around with free will).

Of course, even if that is what Zeb meant, it still leaves the contemptuous observation that the ALL POWERFUL Sky Wizard cant come up with a way to get human beings to listen.

Thought a bit today, TBG, about your comment about building a farm and having a plan for the ants. The funny thing would be finding out that the ants argue among themselves about the existence of the Great Ant who created them.[/quote]

Well, I don’t know what he meant and I’ve been trying to get him to clarify, but he has refused to do so because he’s too busy mounting a pissing and moaning jihad against me. He started with the personal attacks right after that post. And then refused to clarify his statements on the curious grounds that he needed it quoted back to him in a specific manner. When one considers his statement was not altered and, that he could simply page back himself for reference, this was indeed a curious request.

One thing I can happily concede (and have) is that the ant farm analogy was less than perfect. But to your point, I don’t think it’s unreasonable that the “ants” argue when in fact there are dozens of alleged “instructions and plans” and they all claim authenticity at the expense of the other. If the “sky wizard” as you put it decided to give instruction, I would have thought it would be a bit clearer.

You see, I don’t have a deep rooted problem that God exists; my problem is that to accept the premise as espoused by religion, I have to accept the words and actions of an entire group of MEN. And we all know how well mankind promulgates unadulterated truth.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

Incidentally, you seem to be repeating words that I’ve used. I find that quite odd. At times I feel that all you are is a hollow echo chamber. If I use the word arrogance rest assured at some point in your follow up you’ll use the word arrogance. You’ve done this three or four times now. I have an 8 year old that does this too so I understand where you’re coming from.
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This is exactly what he does. It’s very creepy. Look at his last response to me. I specifically wrote “whiny” and “last word” and his “retort” involved exactly the same, as if they were some sort of original comeback. I have someone very close to me who is a very long term alcoholic who exhibits the self-same disturbing behavior. You’ll say something, and he’ll immediately repeat the exact same thing using only slightly different words, as if he were the first person ever to have said it, and somehow no one remembered that it was first said exactly 15 seconds earlier.

It’s even weirder on the internet where all you have to do is look up a few inches to see the words right before you.
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LOL here we go again with Japan’ equivilent of Flava Flav. Yeeeaaaah Booooooiiiiii !!! Do you ever have anything of substance to add, or are you limited to saying “yeah” and throwing around stupid insults. Here’s a hint; When someone uses what you say, they are mocking you. I’m mocking you ya lil dummy.[/quote]

I have around 3000 posts that many on this site will attest have been either very helpful (Steroid forum) or rich in content (PWI). What mysteriously happens, though, is where ever you happen to turn up, all value and content in any given thread or post is suddenly sucked away with an enormous slurping sound into the black hole of your ego.

I’ll bet your life is characterized by a vast, unbroken series of short-lived relationships with people that inevitably end acrimoniously, always due to some flaw in their character or or slight to your person, always wholly the fault of the other, time after time, again and again. Trust me, being “mocked” by the likes of you is about as close to a compliment as you could hope to give me. [/quote]

LMFAO! The steroid forum? Are you a doctor? Because you look to be about a buck-sixty. You have extensive personal experience with steroids and you’re a buck-sixty?!

I’ll be your life is characterized by the internet, where you actually believe your opinion matters, and that you could possibly know a man by his posts on a BB internet site. Shall we cull all your posts and determine your character and value?

Anyway, I have the same core of friends I’ve had since high school. My best friend and I go back to freshman year in high school. Several other friends go back to high school. Others go back 20 years. I have not lost one person I consider “friend”. As for women, even given my short attention span, my relationships tend to be long. But nice try anyway. Like I said before, do you have anything substantive to add to THIS discussion? Or must we discuss steroids for you to add value?

And, your use of “the likes of you” is curious because that’s ZEBspeak. Do you have ANY original thoughts or are you really Japan’s Flava Flav? It’s one thing to disagree with a man, as I have with your other paramour Pat. It’s quite another thing to just stick around a thread where you’ve added absolutely nothing substantive and attack someone. Would that be a weird stalking thing? Or is it you just being a dick?

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And Cortes, you’ve been here since 05, have as you say around 3000 posts and yet you have only 18 profile views, one of which is now mine? So, in a 6 year span, filled with 3000 posts, only 17 people have thought enough of something you said to go look at your profile? I’d say your “contribution” around here has been epic. Yes indeed.

Also, I’m sorry; you’re not a buck-sixty. You’re a claimed 225. I didn’t know steroids were necessary to get to 225 but whatever.

And I’m not “mocking” you, I’m mocking your utterly stupid replies and attacks. You require no mocking. You are as they say in Latin, “Res Ipsa Loquitur”. But I’m sure you would disagree because after all, it’s the internet, and I can know all I need to know about you, and because, well, you know, you can contribute helpful information about steroids. Does that about sum it up?

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Here is your post, again ZEB:

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TheBodyGuard wrote:

I have not agreed that one religion could be right.

This is what you wrote:
If they aren’t all right, then by default, all are wrong except one

And your back peddling notwithstanding, I agree with that statement.

I find it incredulous that the alleged Almighty (as he has been described) has not stayed in contact with us and/or left behind a clearer record not subject to any dispute (certainly possible for the “Almighty” as He has been described.

It is your assumption that a clearer better way is available to God. But, as I said to you in one of our earlier posts God (the Father) spoke to his people directly. Did it help? They still sinned and turned away in droves.

Now that we engaged in this riduculous little game of yours of cutting and pasting with the time, are you denying you stated the above? Let me help you:

“It is your assumption that a clearer better way is available to God”.

I will now reply, again, for the second time, as follows:

Applying the logic and keen eye for mind numbing grammar for the sake of grammar that you appear to rely on in your effort to avoid openly discussing ideas, you expressly used the word “available” in a reply to me about why God does not communicate with us now or, the manner in which your beliefs claims he communicated in the past.

I say again, your use of the word “available” is pretty damn curious and I’d like to hear more about that from you. By stating “available”, you’re are implying that there are means of communication “unavailable” to God. Your doctrine claims that your god is eternal and all powerful, but apparently, applying LOGIC to your statement, some means of communication are not available to God, including leaving a clearer record not subject to dispute and, communicating with us today. This was your reply in response to my statement that I was incredulous that God has stopped communicating with us or failed to leave behind a clearer, indisputable record.

Further applying simple logic, we can conclude from your statement that when God allegedly did communicate with man, that to do so by personal revelation was the only means available to the almightyn (excluding for a moment the claims of the OT; we can ignore the OT I hope, lest we have to consider other spurious claims of communicating with the almighty throughout history with other ancient civilizations). And, continuing with the logical conclusion from your statement, direct communication is no longer an option for God. Is that about right ZEB?? Hmmm?

So, for about at least the 3rd time, I am asking you to explain your statement. God’s very ability to communicate is on the line here. Tell me you have a better reply than challenging me on your preferred quote and cut and paste protocols. Please tell me the Almighty does not hang in the balance of the quote feature. I am anxiously awaiting your attempt worm yourself from underneath this one.

Fetch boy. Now let’s watch real backpedaling[/quote]

You are seriously continuing in this vein? You seriously do not see the words, “It is your assumption that…” in the quoted sentence?

Is being right all the time in every single case so important that it obscures what is blindingly obvious even to those posters who don’t particularly like Zeb (and this is probably being kind)?

“Available” is clearly, unambiguously a word he is attributing to your beliefs, not his own. He even follows this with the negator, “but.”

You should stick to I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I-grade insults and challenging strangers to fights over the internet. It’s less pathetic that what is occurring here.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

It certainly is fun to make up arguments. Like the one where I criticized your size. Cool, you weigh more than I do. And cool if you lift more too. Also cool how you used the “you believe in religion, you’ll believe anything” line when I’m not religious. I’ve been on the opposite side of Deorum this whole time not because I’m religious but because he’s an idiot. I’ve “sided” with the religious folks because they can type complete sentences and I’m fairly certain that they’re intelligent people who just happen to have a different outlook on life than I do: and they aren’t attacking me for it. I asked a sincere question of Zeb and Brotherchris and got sincere answers. That’s a worthwhile dialogue, regardless of whether or not I believe what they do. I’ll sure as hell disagree with them about a lot of other things (politics for one) but I can also take a step back to try and see things from their point of view and get a little perspective.
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Oh, I get it now, so you didn’t just merely reply to my statement about your ad hominems, you didn’t take a personal swipe at me either? I must be seeing things. I didn’t realize I made up “this argument”. I also don’t recall using “you believe in religion you’ll believe in anything”. But don’t let that stop you, you’re not quite on a roll yet. And what I did to you was not an “attack”. It was a counterpunch. Learn the difference. [/quote]

Here’s the reply to the ad hominems. It’s not an ad hominem if his inability to coherently express his thoughts precludes him from making any relevant statement. Lrn 2 argument. Who said I never took a swipe at you? What I didn’t do was say anything about your physique, you just acted like I did cause it made you feel like a big man to criticize me for it. Therefore, you made up arguments in your “counterpunches” (with all that hubris I’m sure you probably fancy yourself a boxer, but your punches really do need some work). You really don’t remember saying “If you can believe in the fairy tales of religion, I guess you can also believe you’re hyooooge”? Weird. You also seem to keep referencing a point in time where I said I was hyoge or something, which I don’t particularly remember doing. You also didn’t get the sarcasm of the use of “brah” in reference to myspace. Also, speaking of hubris, you stated you need no more size. So you’ve hit the pinnacle? You’re the best of the best and have no further aspirations? What the hell are you doing on this site then? You’re set. Get out there and live the hyooooge life.[/quote]

I’m 46 lil guy. I am bigger than you will ever be (unless you respond to and start taking higher doses of drugs) and I have been stronger than you will ever be. Weightlifting doesn’t pay my bills and any attempt to get “hyooger” would only be a detriment to my health. Never had a myspace brah so I don’t get your references. I’m not a boxer, but I’ve been known to fight. Want to go a round? You near NJ?[/quote]

I figured it was only a matter of time til you actually challenged someone to a fight.
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It wasn’t “someone”. Are you now avoiding eye contact like a dog that shit on the carpet? Didn’t you start this with a personal attack? Yes. Didn’t you make a reference to boxing? Yes. You mad? Yeah, you mad. Brah.[/quote]

It actually was “someone”. Fuck, does anyone know English? Had I said “anyone”, then yeah, your response would work. But I am someone. I guess these teachers unions really don’t deserve anything because apparently they don’t teach English. I believe it was you who made the first move by displaying your lack of understanding with regard to ad hominem attacks (it would be a lot less work to compile a list of things you do understand). Again, it’s not an ad hominem if one is unable to make a coherent point for lack of education, so don’t even start with that. It’s just calling a spade a spade.
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LOL hold on so I’m understanding this corretly okay? You attack my avatar like you’re a 12 year old. I respond in kind. And then you put your hall monitor safety belt on from middle school and start patrolling an interent message board at a BB site for grammar? Is that about right? LOL. I’ll ask you the same rhetorical question I asked Cortes; do you have anything substantive to add to the discussion? [/quote]

LOL hold on so I’m understanding this correctly. You post an avatar like you’re a 12 year old. I call you on it. And then you put on your wife beater and start thumping your chest like a gorilla in a cage. Is that about rigt? LOL.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

Here is your post, again ZEB:

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TheBodyGuard wrote:

I have not agreed that one religion could be right.

This is what you wrote:
If they aren’t all right, then by default, all are wrong except one

And your back peddling notwithstanding, I agree with that statement.

I find it incredulous that the alleged Almighty (as he has been described) has not stayed in contact with us and/or left behind a clearer record not subject to any dispute (certainly possible for the “Almighty” as He has been described.

It is your assumption that a clearer better way is available to God. But, as I said to you in one of our earlier posts God (the Father) spoke to his people directly. Did it help? They still sinned and turned away in droves.

Now that we engaged in this riduculous little game of yours of cutting and pasting with the time, are you denying you stated the above? Let me help you:

“It is your assumption that a clearer better way is available to God”.

I will now reply, again, for the second time, as follows:

Applying the logic and keen eye for mind numbing grammar for the sake of grammar that you appear to rely on in your effort to avoid openly discussing ideas, you expressly used the word “available” in a reply to me about why God does not communicate with us now or, the manner in which your beliefs claims he communicated in the past.

I say again, your use of the word “available” is pretty damn curious and I’d like to hear more about that from you. By stating “available”, you’re are implying that there are means of communication “unavailable” to God. Your doctrine claims that your god is eternal and all powerful, but apparently, applying LOGIC to your statement, some means of communication are not available to God, including leaving a clearer record not subject to dispute and, communicating with us today. This was your reply in response to my statement that I was incredulous that God has stopped communicating with us or failed to leave behind a clearer, indisputable record.

Further applying simple logic, we can conclude from your statement that when God allegedly did communicate with man, that to do so by personal revelation was the only means available to the almightyn (excluding for a moment the claims of the OT; we can ignore the OT I hope, lest we have to consider other spurious claims of communicating with the almighty throughout history with other ancient civilizations). And, continuing with the logical conclusion from your statement, direct communication is no longer an option for God. Is that about right ZEB?? Hmmm?

So, for about at least the 3rd time, I am asking you to explain your statement. God’s very ability to communicate is on the line here. Tell me you have a better reply than challenging me on your preferred quote and cut and paste protocols. Please tell me the Almighty does not hang in the balance of the quote feature. I am anxiously awaiting your attempt worm yourself from underneath this one.

Fetch boy. Now let’s watch real backpedaling[/quote]

You are seriously continuing in this vein? You seriously do not see the words, “It is your assumption that…” in the quoted sentence?

Is being right all the time in every single case so important that it obscures what is blindingly obvious even to those posters who don’t particularly like Zeb (and this is probably being kind)?

“Available” is clearly, unambiguously a word he is attributing to your beliefs, not his own. He even follows this with the negator, “but.”

You should stick to I-know-you-are-but-what-am-I-grade insults and challenging strangers to fights over the internet. It’s less pathetic that what is occurring here. [/quote]

Once again, instead of adding something substantive you are reduced to a personal attack. And I’m pathetic? In grade school? Really?

I suggest you brush up on your own grammar and comprehension. I don’t need to be “right” but stating “It is your assumption that a clearer better way is available to God” in reply to my earlier statement clearly says, by default, “that a clearer better way was unavailable to God”.

Do I really have to do this for you? He is saying I assume that a better way existed for God to communicate with man. I am saying in reply, what possible limitation could there be on God’s ability to communicate with man.

The question has thus far been unanswered and you have just butchered the question. Read it again. And if you come to the same conclusion that moved you to write what you wrote, stop, and read it AGAIN.

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[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]siouxperman wrote:

It certainly is fun to make up arguments. Like the one where I criticized your size. Cool, you weigh more than I do. And cool if you lift more too. Also cool how you used the “you believe in religion, you’ll believe anything” line when I’m not religious. I’ve been on the opposite side of Deorum this whole time not because I’m religious but because he’s an idiot. I’ve “sided” with the religious folks because they can type complete sentences and I’m fairly certain that they’re intelligent people who just happen to have a different outlook on life than I do: and they aren’t attacking me for it. I asked a sincere question of Zeb and Brotherchris and got sincere answers. That’s a worthwhile dialogue, regardless of whether or not I believe what they do. I’ll sure as hell disagree with them about a lot of other things (politics for one) but I can also take a step back to try and see things from their point of view and get a little perspective.
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Oh, I get it now, so you didn’t just merely reply to my statement about your ad hominems, you didn’t take a personal swipe at me either? I must be seeing things. I didn’t realize I made up “this argument”. I also don’t recall using “you believe in religion you’ll believe in anything”. But don’t let that stop you, you’re not quite on a roll yet. And what I did to you was not an “attack”. It was a counterpunch. Learn the difference. [/quote]

Here’s the reply to the ad hominems. It’s not an ad hominem if his inability to coherently express his thoughts precludes him from making any relevant statement. Lrn 2 argument. Who said I never took a swipe at you? What I didn’t do was say anything about your physique, you just acted like I did cause it made you feel like a big man to criticize me for it. Therefore, you made up arguments in your “counterpunches” (with all that hubris I’m sure you probably fancy yourself a boxer, but your punches really do need some work). You really don’t remember saying “If you can believe in the fairy tales of religion, I guess you can also believe you’re hyooooge”? Weird. You also seem to keep referencing a point in time where I said I was hyoge or something, which I don’t particularly remember doing. You also didn’t get the sarcasm of the use of “brah” in reference to myspace. Also, speaking of hubris, you stated you need no more size. So you’ve hit the pinnacle? You’re the best of the best and have no further aspirations? What the hell are you doing on this site then? You’re set. Get out there and live the hyooooge life.[/quote]

I’m 46 lil guy. I am bigger than you will ever be (unless you respond to and start taking higher doses of drugs) and I have been stronger than you will ever be. Weightlifting doesn’t pay my bills and any attempt to get “hyooger” would only be a detriment to my health. Never had a myspace brah so I don’t get your references. I’m not a boxer, but I’ve been known to fight. Want to go a round? You near NJ?[/quote]

I figured it was only a matter of time til you actually challenged someone to a fight.
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It wasn’t “someone”. Are you now avoiding eye contact like a dog that shit on the carpet? Didn’t you start this with a personal attack? Yes. Didn’t you make a reference to boxing? Yes. You mad? Yeah, you mad. Brah.[/quote]

It actually was “someone”. Fuck, does anyone know English? Had I said “anyone”, then yeah, your response would work. But I am someone. I guess these teachers unions really don’t deserve anything because apparently they don’t teach English. I believe it was you who made the first move by displaying your lack of understanding with regard to ad hominem attacks (it would be a lot less work to compile a list of things you do understand). Again, it’s not an ad hominem if one is unable to make a coherent point for lack of education, so don’t even start with that. It’s just calling a spade a spade.
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LOL hold on so I’m understanding this corretly okay? You attack my avatar like you’re a 12 year old. I respond in kind. And then you put your hall monitor safety belt on from middle school and start patrolling an interent message board at a BB site for grammar? Is that about right? LOL. I’ll ask you the same rhetorical question I asked Cortes; do you have anything substantive to add to the discussion? [/quote]

LOL hold on so I’m understanding this correctly. You post an avatar like you’re a 12 year old. I call you on it. And then you put on your wife beater and start thumping your chest like a gorilla in a cage. Is that about rigt? LOL.[/quote]

Here we go again. Another attack. “like a 12 year old”. So what happens, when I insult you again in turn you go a cry foul again? Is that how it works lil guy? I’m not immodest lil guy. I posted a simple pic of ME. Not some “look at me” pose. Hell, I even had one pic of me deadlifting and took it down b/c it was pointless. It’s a pic of me you stupid little shit.

So, when is it you will actually add something substantive to the discussion? Or do you just specialize in annoying someone on the internet. Do you do this in person too?

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

No half remembered statement. I cut and paste your statement about God’s communication. You have yet to respond to it. We’re waiting.

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Anyone can copy and paste whatever they want, and that’s exactly what you’ve done. Why am I not surprised that you couldn’t do this correctly?

I specifically said make sure that you copy the date time and entire post. As I knew you would either become confused (there are a lot of words and I know how you get), or make a mistake. And that is exactly what you’ve done.

And make sure you get both points mentioned. Now come back with my specific words from my specific post unchanged, with the date and time unchanged. Can you do that? No,you can’t because they do not exist. But knock yourself out looking. There is really no end to your entertainment value.

What a strange mix of stupidity and hubris you are, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like it.

Carry on.

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I have previously cut and pavste EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.[/quote]

No, actually you cut and pasted what you said and attributed it to me. The only way that you can do this so that you actually have any credibility (if that is even possible) is to cut and paste with the date and time on the post and highlight the section where you claim I said what I said.

Now this is the third time that I’ve asked you to do this. Either do it correctly or admit that I never said it. As I’ve already said, we know you have no respect for logic but at least have some respect for the proper proof. Any idiot can write something down put quotes around it (if they can figure out how to use the quote function) and then claim that another person said it. That’s not how you prove what someone said around here.

Incidentally, you seem to be repeating words that I’ve used. I find that quite odd. At times I feel that all you are is a hollow echo chamber. If I use the word arrogance rest assured at some point in your follow up you’ll use the word arrogance. You’ve done this three or four times now. I have an 8 year old that does this too so I understand where you’re coming from.

Now if you want to continue to play this game (and with the weekend almost here I’ll have lot’s of time to school you) hurry back with your proof, and remember what the definition of proof is.[/quote]

I repeat what you say to illustrate for your little mind how stupid and hallow some of your rebuttals are.[/quote]

This coming from a man who relies on logical fallacies, and threatens to beat people up over the Internet. The irony is just too great.

Second course of irony please…Not long ago it was you who came begging, “come on you know what I mean.” And why? Because you were not quite smart enough to explain yourself so that others could actually make sense of it.

Here we get a break from irony as he moves in the direction of becoming a liar. Yet, I hesitate to call you a liar because of your limited IQ. You might actually believe that you quoted me correctly. In dealing with you it’s very much like dealing with a child who has special needs. You want him to do things for himself yet at the same time you cannot give him too much responsibility for obvious reasons.

Absurd, that’s funny I used that exact word a few posts back. Are you an alcoholic as another poster intimated? Alcoholics do this did you know that? As I said earlier it could be just a unique mix of hubris and low IQ, but then again there could be some sort of dependency problem. Either way I’m sure you’ve created some serious pain for those around you just by your oafishness and terrible lack of insight.

I’m actually starting to feel guilty about these posts. I feel like someone from Social Services is going to get on your screen name and lecture me. Do you live with an aid, or do they send someone in once a week to check on you? In your next post (yes I know you will never stop posting) share with us how this all works.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

No half remembered statement. I cut and paste your statement about God’s communication. You have yet to respond to it. We’re waiting.

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Anyone can copy and paste whatever they want, and that’s exactly what you’ve done. Why am I not surprised that you couldn’t do this correctly?

I specifically said make sure that you copy the date time and entire post. As I knew you would either become confused (there are a lot of words and I know how you get), or make a mistake. And that is exactly what you’ve done.

And make sure you get both points mentioned. Now come back with my specific words from my specific post unchanged, with the date and time unchanged. Can you do that? No,you can’t because they do not exist. But knock yourself out looking. There is really no end to your entertainment value.

What a strange mix of stupidity and hubris you are, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like it.

Carry on.

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I have previously cut and pavste EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.[/quote]

No, actually you cut and pasted what you said and attributed it to me. The only way that you can do this so that you actually have any credibility (if that is even possible) is to cut and paste with the date and time on the post and highlight the section where you claim I said what I said.

Now this is the third time that I’ve asked you to do this. Either do it correctly or admit that I never said it. As I’ve already said, we know you have no respect for logic but at least have some respect for the proper proof. Any idiot can write something down put quotes around it (if they can figure out how to use the quote function) and then claim that another person said it. That’s not how you prove what someone said around here.

Incidentally, you seem to be repeating words that I’ve used. I find that quite odd. At times I feel that all you are is a hollow echo chamber. If I use the word arrogance rest assured at some point in your follow up you’ll use the word arrogance. You’ve done this three or four times now. I have an 8 year old that does this too so I understand where you’re coming from.

Now if you want to continue to play this game (and with the weekend almost here I’ll have lot’s of time to school you) hurry back with your proof, and remember what the definition of proof is.[/quote]

I repeat what you say to illustrate for your little mind how stupid and hallow some of your rebuttals are.[/quote]

This coming from a man who relies on logical fallacies, and threatens to beat people up over the Internet. The irony is just too great.

Second course of irony please…Not long ago it was you who came begging, “come on you know what I mean.” And why? Because you were not quite smart enough to explain yourself so that others could actually make sense of it.

Here we get a break from irony as he moves in the direction of becoming a liar. Yet, I hesitate to call you a liar because of your limited IQ. You might actually believe that you quoted me correctly. In dealing with you it’s very much like dealing with a child who has special needs. You want him to do things for himself yet at the same time you cannot give him too much responsibility for obvious reasons.

Absurd, that’s funny I used that exact word a few posts back. Are you an alcoholic as another poster intimated? Alcoholics do this did you know that? As I said earlier it could be just a unique mix of hubris and low IQ, but then again there could be some sort of dependency problem. Either way I’m sure you’ve created some serious pain for those around you just by your oafishness and terrible lack of insight.

I’m actually starting to feel guilty about these posts. I feel like someone from Social Services is going to get on your screen name and lecture me. Do you live with an aid, or do they send someone in once a week to check on you? In your next post (yes I know you will never stop posting) share with us how this all works.

[/quote]

When exactly are you going to actually reply to the question posed to you? I have now, for the 2nd time, cut and paste it for you. When do you intend to address my questions? Or, will Cortes continue to reply for you and explain what you mean (and do a bad job of it)? I’m ignoring your senseless personal attacks. You’re now the equivalent of some kid hiding behind the teacher going “nah nah na na nah” and sticking out your tongue. I’ve apparently reduced you to a blithering idiot who can manage nothing better than a stupid insult.

Answer the question. Get back on topic. It’s cut and paste for you, with the time. It’s been quoted now 2 times. I await your reply.

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And are you not claiming I misquoted you when I cut and paste the EXACT post a few pages ago? Who is drinking? Really?

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And Cortes, you’ve been here since 05, have as you say around 3000 posts and yet you have only 18 profile views, one of which is now mine? So, in a 6 year span, filled with 3000 posts, only 17 people have thought enough of something you said to go look at your profile? I’d say your “contribution” around here has been epic. Yes indeed.

Also, I’m sorry; you’re not a buck-sixty. You’re a claimed 225. I didn’t know steroids were necessary to get to 225 but whatever.

And I’m not “mocking” you, I’m mocking your utterly stupid replies and attacks. You require no mocking. You are as they say in Latin, “Res Ipsa Loquitur”. But I’m sure you would disagree because after all, it’s the internet, and I can know all I need to know about you, and because, well, you know, you can contribute helpful information about steroids. Does that about sum it up?[/quote]

You really wanna go here?

Profile views? Do you know how profile views are accounted for? I’ll give you a little hint, they are not calculated as a historical aggregate, genius.

My physique? What is this, jr. high?

Keep going guy, please.

“Absentem laedit cum ebrio qui litigat.”

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

No half remembered statement. I cut and paste your statement about God’s communication. You have yet to respond to it. We’re waiting.

[/quote]

Anyone can copy and paste whatever they want, and that’s exactly what you’ve done. Why am I not surprised that you couldn’t do this correctly?

I specifically said make sure that you copy the date time and entire post. As I knew you would either become confused (there are a lot of words and I know how you get), or make a mistake. And that is exactly what you’ve done.

And make sure you get both points mentioned. Now come back with my specific words from my specific post unchanged, with the date and time unchanged. Can you do that? No,you can’t because they do not exist. But knock yourself out looking. There is really no end to your entertainment value.

What a strange mix of stupidity and hubris you are, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like it.

Carry on.

[/quote]

I have previously cut and pavste EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.[/quote]

No, actually you cut and pasted what you said and attributed it to me. The only way that you can do this so that you actually have any credibility (if that is even possible) is to cut and paste with the date and time on the post and highlight the section where you claim I said what I said.

Now this is the third time that I’ve asked you to do this. Either do it correctly or admit that I never said it. As I’ve already said, we know you have no respect for logic but at least have some respect for the proper proof. Any idiot can write something down put quotes around it (if they can figure out how to use the quote function) and then claim that another person said it. That’s not how you prove what someone said around here.

Incidentally, you seem to be repeating words that I’ve used. I find that quite odd. At times I feel that all you are is a hollow echo chamber. If I use the word arrogance rest assured at some point in your follow up you’ll use the word arrogance. You’ve done this three or four times now. I have an 8 year old that does this too so I understand where you’re coming from.

Now if you want to continue to play this game (and with the weekend almost here I’ll have lot’s of time to school you) hurry back with your proof, and remember what the definition of proof is.[/quote]

I repeat what you say to illustrate for your little mind how stupid and hallow some of your rebuttals are.[/quote]

This coming from a man who relies on logical fallacies, and threatens to beat people up over the Internet. The irony is just too great.

Second course of irony please…Not long ago it was you who came begging, “come on you know what I mean.” And why? Because you were not quite smart enough to explain yourself so that others could actually make sense of it.

Here we get a break from irony as he moves in the direction of becoming a liar. Yet, I hesitate to call you a liar because of your limited IQ. You might actually believe that you quoted me correctly. In dealing with you it’s very much like dealing with a child who has special needs. You want him to do things for himself yet at the same time you cannot give him too much responsibility for obvious reasons.

Absurd, that’s funny I used that exact word a few posts back. Are you an alcoholic as another poster intimated? Alcoholics do this did you know that? As I said earlier it could be just a unique mix of hubris and low IQ, but then again there could be some sort of dependency problem. Either way I’m sure you’ve created some serious pain for those around you just by your oafishness and terrible lack of insight.

I’m actually starting to feel guilty about these posts. I feel like someone from Social Services is going to get on your screen name and lecture me. Do you live with an aid, or do they send someone in once a week to check on you? In your next post (yes I know you will never stop posting) share with us how this all works.

[/quote]

When exactly are you going to actually reply to the question posed to you? I have now, for the 2nd time, cut and paste it for you. When do you intend to address my questions? Or, will Cortes continue to reply for you and explain what you mean (and do a bad job of it)? I’m ignoring your senseless personal attacks. You’re now the equivalent of some kid hiding behind the teacher going “nah nah na na nah” and sticking out your tongue. I’ve apparently reduced you to a blithering idiot who can manage nothing better than a stupid insult.

Answer the question. Get back on topic. It’s cut and paste for you, with the time. It’s been quoted now 2 times. I await your reply.[/quote]

LOL…please keep it going, I’ve never seen anything like this. You’ve got about 3 or 4 posters on this thread alone who think you are mentally challenged and you continue to prove us right with every post.

Is your life that empty?

I’m sad for you, see >>>> :frowning:

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Cortes,

At this point I’m running under the assumption that TheBodyGuard is either a mentally challenged person, in which case we shouldn’t be teasing him. Or, he could be another teen on the order of that other fellow who haunts this site. I know his picture looks like someone older but this is the Internet and anyone can post a picture of whomever they desire. Then again he could be what I described him as earlier, just someone with a lot of hubris and a very low IQ (a really bad combination). It’s certainly one of the three.

What do you think?

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

No half remembered statement. I cut and paste your statement about God’s communication. You have yet to respond to it. We’re waiting.

[/quote]

Anyone can copy and paste whatever they want, and that’s exactly what you’ve done. Why am I not surprised that you couldn’t do this correctly?

I specifically said make sure that you copy the date time and entire post. As I knew you would either become confused (there are a lot of words and I know how you get), or make a mistake. And that is exactly what you’ve done.

And make sure you get both points mentioned. Now come back with my specific words from my specific post unchanged, with the date and time unchanged. Can you do that? No,you can’t because they do not exist. But knock yourself out looking. There is really no end to your entertainment value.

What a strange mix of stupidity and hubris you are, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like it.

Carry on.

[/quote]

I have previously cut and pavste EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.[/quote]

No, actually you cut and pasted what you said and attributed it to me. The only way that you can do this so that you actually have any credibility (if that is even possible) is to cut and paste with the date and time on the post and highlight the section where you claim I said what I said.

Now this is the third time that I’ve asked you to do this. Either do it correctly or admit that I never said it. As I’ve already said, we know you have no respect for logic but at least have some respect for the proper proof. Any idiot can write something down put quotes around it (if they can figure out how to use the quote function) and then claim that another person said it. That’s not how you prove what someone said around here.

Incidentally, you seem to be repeating words that I’ve used. I find that quite odd. At times I feel that all you are is a hollow echo chamber. If I use the word arrogance rest assured at some point in your follow up you’ll use the word arrogance. You’ve done this three or four times now. I have an 8 year old that does this too so I understand where you’re coming from.

Now if you want to continue to play this game (and with the weekend almost here I’ll have lot’s of time to school you) hurry back with your proof, and remember what the definition of proof is.[/quote]

I repeat what you say to illustrate for your little mind how stupid and hallow some of your rebuttals are.[/quote]

This coming from a man who relies on logical fallacies, and threatens to beat people up over the Internet. The irony is just too great.

Second course of irony please…Not long ago it was you who came begging, “come on you know what I mean.” And why? Because you were not quite smart enough to explain yourself so that others could actually make sense of it.

Here we get a break from irony as he moves in the direction of becoming a liar. Yet, I hesitate to call you a liar because of your limited IQ. You might actually believe that you quoted me correctly. In dealing with you it’s very much like dealing with a child who has special needs. You want him to do things for himself yet at the same time you cannot give him too much responsibility for obvious reasons.

Absurd, that’s funny I used that exact word a few posts back. Are you an alcoholic as another poster intimated? Alcoholics do this did you know that? As I said earlier it could be just a unique mix of hubris and low IQ, but then again there could be some sort of dependency problem. Either way I’m sure you’ve created some serious pain for those around you just by your oafishness and terrible lack of insight.

I’m actually starting to feel guilty about these posts. I feel like someone from Social Services is going to get on your screen name and lecture me. Do you live with an aid, or do they send someone in once a week to check on you? In your next post (yes I know you will never stop posting) share with us how this all works.

[/quote]

When exactly are you going to actually reply to the question posed to you? I have now, for the 2nd time, cut and paste it for you. When do you intend to address my questions? Or, will Cortes continue to reply for you and explain what you mean (and do a bad job of it)? I’m ignoring your senseless personal attacks. You’re now the equivalent of some kid hiding behind the teacher going “nah nah na na nah” and sticking out your tongue. I’ve apparently reduced you to a blithering idiot who can manage nothing better than a stupid insult.

Answer the question. Get back on topic. It’s cut and paste for you, with the time. It’s been quoted now 2 times. I await your reply.[/quote]

LOL…please keep it going, I’ve never seen anything like this. You’ve got about 3 or 4 posters on this thread alone who think you are mentally challenged and you continue to prove us right with every post.

Is your life that empty?

I’m sad for you, see >>>> :frowning:

[/quote]

Cricket chirping…

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
Cortes,

At this point I’m running under the assumption that TheBodyGuard is either a mentally challenged person, in which case we shouldn’t be teasing him. Or, he could be another teen on the order of that other fellow who haunts this site. I know his picture looks like someone older but this is the Internet and anyone can post a picture of whomever they desire. Then again he could be what I described him as earlier, just someone with a lot of hubris and a very low IQ (a really bad combination). It’s certainly one of the three.

What do you think?
[/quote]

That’s an odd weakness; seeking peer support on an internet forum in an effort to attack someone? What would Jesus do?

You asked for your post to be quoted back to you. It has. It’s awfully quiet in here. Just you and Cortes playing with yourselves. Oh, there’s the other guy too. So there’s you, and two other guys that have made absolutely no contribution to the thread. And then there’s you, who retreated to personal attacks when challenged on your curious statement - the statement you insisted be quoted back to you in particular manner, because you’re a peculiar type of fellow.

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Cmon ZEB, put a face to the name.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
And Cortes, you’ve been here since 05, have as you say around 3000 posts and yet you have only 18 profile views, one of which is now mine? So, in a 6 year span, filled with 3000 posts, only 17 people have thought enough of something you said to go look at your profile? I’d say your “contribution” around here has been epic. Yes indeed.

Also, I’m sorry; you’re not a buck-sixty. You’re a claimed 225. I didn’t know steroids were necessary to get to 225 but whatever.

And I’m not “mocking” you, I’m mocking your utterly stupid replies and attacks. You require no mocking. You are as they say in Latin, “Res Ipsa Loquitur”. But I’m sure you would disagree because after all, it’s the internet, and I can know all I need to know about you, and because, well, you know, you can contribute helpful information about steroids. Does that about sum it up?[/quote]

You really wanna go here?

Profile views? Do you know how profile views are accounted for? I’ll give you a little hint, they are not calculated as a historical aggregate, genius.

My physique? What is this, jr. high?

Keep going guy, please.

“Absentem laedit cum ebrio qui litigat.”[/quote]

LOL you’re asking me if it’s junior high? Really? Let’s see…I’ll ask you again; what have you done in this thread other than make empty personal attacks? So, when you do it, you’re being intelligent, but when I point out a serious observation that you needed steroids to get to 225 lbs I’m acting like I’m in junior high? So, you get to insult me, but any return of insult is “junior high”. Is that how that works. Your logic sir, is flawless! Nice work.

I do see I was mistaken about profile views.

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Cortes, now I understand the “junior high” reference. ZEB made a reference earlier to “grade school”. Now it makes sense. What I can’t figure out is who’s hand is up who’s dress working the keyboard. Puppet master, please stand up and reveal thyself!!