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[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
You can’t be serious.
You just… can’t.[/quote]
What bothers me the most is not what he says, it’s what he implies by it that blows my mind. I agree, many republicans lack objectivity, at least with many things. But for him to not say, Politicians, in stead of republicans, makes me think that he thinks that Democrats are objective. But it is by a politicians very nature that they are very unobjective.
Pittbull. I feel sorry for you, like in the same way I would feel sorry for a mentally handicapped person at the park who left unsupervised had found some dog poop and was playing with it.
V[/quote]
I do agree with you about both parties can be unobjective, but the Republicans do it much better than the Democrats, now most will think that being unobjective is all bad, it has many upsides first being that you can deny anything, you can in fact deny that the sun comes up in the morning, or you can deny that America is 37th in the category of health care, or you can deny that being conservative does not mean conserving money. You can even deny that Obama was born in America even though many have seen his B.C.
Vegita, lets face it, you do not feel sorry for me, nor do I want anything from you. I just enjoy pointing to the fact that the majority of posters on these forums enjoy sitting around in a circle and stroking themselves and each other. They also resent any body that may have a slightly different point of view than their own.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
You can’t be serious.
You just… can’t.[/quote]
What bothers me the most is not what he says, it’s what he implies by it that blows my mind. I agree, many republicans lack objectivity, at least with many things. But for him to not say, Politicians, in stead of republicans, makes me think that he thinks that Democrats are objective. But it is by a politicians very nature that they are very unobjective.
Pittbull. I feel sorry for you, like in the same way I would feel sorry for a mentally handicapped person at the park who left unsupervised had found some dog poop and was playing with it.
V[/quote]
I do agree with you about both parties can be unobjective, but the Republicans do it much better than the Democrats, now most will think that being unobjective is all bad, it has many upsides first being that you can deny anything, you can in fact deny that the sun comes up in the morning, or you can deny that America is 37th in the category of health care, or you can deny that being conservative does not mean conserving money. You can even deny that Obama was born in America even though many have seen his B.C.
Vegita, lets face it, you do not feel sorry for me, nor do I want anything from you. I just enjoy pointing to the fact that the majority of posters on these forums enjoy sitting around in a circle and stroking themselves and each other. They also resent any body that may have a slightly different point of view than their own. [/quote]
This statement coming from a person who supports a party that is going to ram healthcare reform down peoples throat whether they want it or not. They don’t have the votes to do it the right way so they will just circumvent the system and what the majority of people want. That is an objective look huh?
[quote]snipeout wrote:
This statement coming from a person who supports a party that is going to ram healthcare reform down peoples throat whether they want it or not. They don’t have the votes to do it the right way so they will just circumvent the system and what the majority of people want. That is an objective look huh?
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I was just going to say the same thing, so I’ll just quote you.
Liberal tolerance and “objectivity” is only entertained by ideas from Liberals…it is a one way street.
Additionally, how objective is your leader Pelosi when she says the Tea Parties, affectionately and objectively labeled “teabaggers” by the left is a “AstroTurf” movement? It cannot be because there is a lot of in-fighting as to this group and how…if at all…it can meld with the GOP. The objective left loves to say it’s a gOP movement by GOP leadership and Fox. The truth is that a lot of people in the movement are first time activists, moved by their own devices based on what they see happening in the US Gov. today.
Objectify that little nugget Pittbull.
Notice how I do not “objectively” call you names.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think in todayâ??s political world objectivity must be a sign of weakness to Republicans and the (SO CALLED RIGHT).[/quote]
I’m pleased that you live in a Republican State.
You are out-voted consistently.
That makes me smile.
Have a good day!!!
JeffR
[quote]Jeff R wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think in today�¢??s political world objectivity must be a sign of weakness to Republicans and the (SO CALLED RIGHT).[/quote]
I’m pleased that you live in a Republican State.
You are out-voted consistently.
That makes me smile.
Have a good day!!!
JeffR[/quote]
[quote]Jeff R wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I think in today�¢??s political world objectivity must be a sign of weakness to Republicans and the (SO CALLED RIGHT).[/quote]
I’m pleased that you live in a Republican State.
You are out-voted consistently.
That makes me smile.
Have a good day!!!
You don’t know shit about AZ, that makes me smile:)
JeffR[/quote]
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]snipeout wrote:
This statement coming from a person who supports a party that is going to ram healthcare reform down peoples throat whether they want it or not. They don’t have the votes to do it the right way so they will just circumvent the system and what the majority of people want. That is an objective look huh?
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I was just going to say the same thing, so I’ll just quote you.
Liberal tolerance and “objectivity” is only entertained by ideas from Liberals…it is a one way street. [/quote]
Ok, you must have a problem with the altruistic parts of the health care bill, but do you think it is ok that health care costs went up 39 percent. Do you think it OK that your ins. Company can drop you because they have spent too much money on you , Is it ok that your son that is presently on your insurance will never be able to get insurance coverage because he has a pre existing condition
I do not want to shove anything down your throat; I think all the Republican ideas are workable. But it is not going to help anything. The reason Fla. Health care costs are more than N.Y. is because they have more seniors in Fla. And any Ins. Company that goes to Fla. will have to charge more.
I personally am an Independent, I will probably vote heavy for Democrats in the next election, but if the Republicans quit talking stupid shit and come up with rational plans I would vote Republican
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
Additionally, how objective is your leader Pelosi when she says the Tea Parties, affectionately and objectively labeled “teabaggers” by the left is a “AstroTurf” movement? It cannot be because there is a lot of in-fighting as to this group and how…if at all…it can meld with the GOP. The objective left loves to say it’s a gOP movement by GOP leadership and Fox. The truth is that a lot of people in the movement are first time activists, moved by their own devices based on what they see happening in the US Gov. today.
Objectify that little nugget Pittbull.
Notice how I do not “objectively” call you names.
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Pelosi is not my leader, I do not know what she says about the tea baggers nor do I care , at least she is not saying , they are Kenyans , and Comunists and Socialists , and nazis.The Tea bag movement is riddled with problems , the biggest is they have no direction, I hope that was not too unobjective for ya:)
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
…I would vote Republican
[/quote]You mean Retardican, don’t you?
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I will vote republican when they quit acting like they are misssing several genes:)
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
…or you can deny that America is 37th in the category of health care…[/quote]
I really wish people would stop throwing out that completely inaccurate statistic. That ranking was done by the World Health Organization, which by the way is part of the UN. More importantly, they stopped doing those rankings in 2000 because they were very inaccurate due to there being just too many variables to take into account.
[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
…or you can deny that America is 37th in the category of health care…[/quote]
I really wish people would stop throwing out that completely inaccurate statistic. That ranking was done by the World Health Organization, which by the way is part of the UN. More importantly, they stopped doing those rankings in 2000 because they were very inaccurate due to there being just too many variables to take into account.
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The report was dated 2000, but I could find nothing to dis credit the report, I would be interested in seeing some valid proof to your assertion
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]Scuba19 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
…or you can deny that America is 37th in the category of health care…[/quote]
I really wish people would stop throwing out that completely inaccurate statistic. That ranking was done by the World Health Organization, which by the way is part of the UN. More importantly, they stopped doing those rankings in 2000 because they were very inaccurate due to there being just too many variables to take into account.
[/quote]Can’t let facts get in the way of an agenda.
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I would like to see the proof , if it is creditable I would listen.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
…I would vote Republican
[/quote]You mean Retardican, don’t you?
[/quote]
I will vote republican when they quit acting like they are misssing several genes:)[/quote]
I’ll bet they can hardly wait.[/quote]
The problem with you is you play the role of a child . you say nothing constructive. Just curious what you get out of this ?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ok, you must have a problem with the altruistic parts of the health care bill, but do you think it is ok that health care costs went up 39 percent. Do you think it OK that your ins. Company can drop you because they have spent too much money on you , Is it ok that your son that is presently on your insurance will never be able to get insurance coverage because he has a pre existing condition
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39%…oh yes, and it’s all this Ins companies and it stems from greed I suppose. Damn 3% profits.
I agree pre-existing conditions should never DQ anyone. GOP agrees as well.
I think we should have a “Catastrophic Clause” that people should carry for little money. In the event you DO get really sick or hurt, you would pay maybe 3-5k, then benefits kick in.
I believe we all should pay out of pocket for “regular” doctor visits with HSA’s. The biggest problem in rising costs is that we Americans go to the dr for every sniffle, briuse or cough. we scare the nation about the flu. We use the Dr like a gas station or convenience store when we should NOT. Now, bring in all the lame medications doctors push for anyone who “feels” depressed then we have INs companies paying for drugs they should not, performing multitudes of unneeded expensive “tests” to cover their asses because they may be sued for untold amounts.
Leave it up to the customers. If I still have that 3k at the end of the year in my Health Savings Account, then I keep it. If I want to visit the doctor like a candy store, then I’m SOL and pay for that overuse.
Mandated coverage should only be catasrophic in nature so one does not go bankrupt, making true care affordable and my choice. If some dimwit decides not to buy catastophic care, let them be examples of what could happen.
It’s time we all change our habits on this. Health Care is NOT A RIGHT!