Obama's Pastor

[quote]dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain. [/quote]
are you talking God damn America ? God is not a name

[quote]dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain. [/quote]

So, you think Jesus would have left instead of making a statement? Jesus in the Bible was never a wimp. He used public events to spread his message. He didn’t run away from adversity. I really think anyone even claiming something like that doesn’t have a clue what they are talking about.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain.
are you talking God damn America ? God is not a name
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True, plus, I doubt Jesus would have ignored our own society’s excesses and focused in on someone’s use of the name of God in a sentence like that. I think the current general public would be the only ones that shallow.

[quote]Chushin wrote:
DrSkeptix wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
We have “Death to America” parties.

We put on Rocky IV and cheer for Ivan Drago.

Coming from another person, I’d think they were being absurd. But you? Well, you just might being telling the truth.

Or, Sloth, if Orion had any sense of insight, we might take his comments as self-parody. I simply could not read all this Orioncrap and keep my jaw from dropping. Witness, the pot calling the kettle a kitchen utensil:

What you guys really need to learn is to get over your ego…

[if] the gods want to destroy you, first, they strike you with blindness.

To even assume that America plays a big enough role in my emotional universe to actually hate her is hubris.

All these pronouncements coming from the forum’s foremost poseur, who has never even been to the USA, who derives his opinions electronically, and whose opinions we are supposed to respect? This must be a form a blindness that not even the victim can “see.”

His assumption that we take him seriously, is, well, hubris.

Or comedy.

Come now, Dr.

It should be clear that when a young, “insightful” Austrian writes something like “To even assume that America plays a big enough role in my emotional universe to actually hate her is hubris,” he should be taken at his word.

There is no reason to impugn his integrity – absent some clear, dramatic evidence that contradicts his confident statement.

Say, thousands of anti-US posts dripping with vitriol and sarcasm on a bodybuilding site?

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Feigned insights?
Olympian pronouncements?
Arrogance?
Hubris?

No, you are right, Chushin. I left out grandiosity–delusional self-importance:

[quote]Orion drivled:
That nobody gets how hilarious it is that after what I wrote you all line up to reassure yourself that, yes, I must hate America is in itself quite entertaining. [/quote]

Some clowns do not know when their act is over.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain.
are you talking God damn America ? God is not a name

True, plus, I doubt Jesus would have ignored our own society’s excesses and focused in on someone’s use of the name of God in a sentence like that. I think the current general public would be the only ones that shallow.

Hey Professor Post, we’ve found another topic that you don’t know anything about, religion:

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.”

Exodus 20:7

It’s also a commandment in case you didn’t know.

Forget his hateful racist remarks, tell us all how it’s okay for an ordained minister to preach in front of his congregation and take the Lords name in vain.

Go ahead Post we’re all waiting…[/quote]

Since you’re the religion expert now and quoting Bible verses…why don’t you practice the values it teaches. Words are not the only form of “taking God’s name in vain.”

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain.
are you talking God damn America ? God is not a name

True, plus, I doubt Jesus would have ignored our own society’s excesses and focused in on someone’s use of the name of God in a sentence like that. I think the current general public would be the only ones that shallow.

Hey Professor Post, we’ve found another topic that you don’t know anything about, religion:

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.”

Exodus 20:7

It’s also a commandment in case you didn’t know.

Forget his hateful racist remarks, tell us all how it’s okay for an ordained minister to preach in front of his congregation and take the Lords name in vain.

Go ahead Post we’re all waiting…

Since you’re the religion expert now and quoting Bible verses…why don’t you practice the values it teaches. Words are not the only form of “taking God’s name in vain.”[/quote]

I doubt if Jesus came back today and walked around downtown New York that worrying about people saying, “Gawd damn” would even be anywhere near the top of the list of points to cover. I also don’t see Jesus getting up and leaving a church sermon because of it as Jesus was always able to see the larger picture.

He was also a politician of sorts and was apparently highly intelligent compared to the general population.

If anything, he would use that instance to bring unity, not to show seperatism from those in Church because one man in a pulpit said a “bad word” while ignoring the context of the message.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain.
are you talking God damn America ? God is not a name

True, plus, I doubt Jesus would have ignored our own society’s excesses and focused in on someone’s use of the name of God in a sentence like that. I think the current general public would be the only ones that shallow.

Hey Professor Post, we’ve found another topic that you don’t know anything about, religion:

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.”

Exodus 20:7

It’s also a commandment in case you didn’t know.

Forget his hateful racist remarks, tell us all how it’s okay for an ordained minister to preach in front of his congregation and take the Lords name in vain.

Go ahead Post we’re all waiting…

Since you’re the religion expert now and quoting Bible verses…why don’t you practice the values it teaches. Words are not the only form of “taking God’s name in vain.”

Little boss jumps in to help out his posting mentor? Oh that’s so nice, hey someday you too can have 20,000 posts that make no sense.

Anyway genius you’re wrong…AGAIN. Words ARE the only form of taking Gods name in vain.

And…as long as you’re here why don’t you answer the question posed to your buddy?

Can’t huh?

By the way since when do you have to be an “expert in religion” in order to name one of the commandments…oh never mind…I forgot where you’re coming from.

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What makes you think I needed help? My dad was a preacher. I am sure I was raised with more general knowledge of the Bible than you were by a long shot.

I didn’t respond to you before because I see you as a lost cause. This will also be my last post directly to you unless you say something that could spark a debate with the smarter people on this forum.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Hey Professor Post, we’ve found another topic that you don’t know anything about, religion:

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.”

Exodus 20:7

It’s also a commandment in case you didn’t know.

"…By the way since when do you have to be an “expert in religion” in order to name one of the commandments??
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When you’re questioning other peoples faith and basically saying that they don’t know about religion. But thats ok,it doesn’t go against anything Jesus or the Bible teaches :wink:

[quote]orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:

Are you a libertarian? Or, do you believe in government intervention (Affirmative Action and welfare programs) to foster “equality?”

Why do you ask?

Because I do automatically think anyone not agreeing with me is the debil?

Just cause you seem absolutely committed to defending a proponent of Affirmative Action and wealth redistribution programs, based on race. You know, totally opposite of the Libertarian stance.

Anti-American comes first.

Gotta have priorities.

The funny thing is, you’re serious. As long as he says “God Damn American” you could care less what a bigoted, self-seperatist, welfare statist has to say.

What you guys really need to learn is to get over your ego.

Or pride, you know, the root of all sins, if you are of the more conservative persuasion.

It is absolutely, positively, possible to be against Americas policies or to be disgusted by sound bite character assassination without hating America as a whole.

It is as if you cannot conceive that critics could actually have a point, they all must hate America for inexplicable reasons for you could do no wrong.

Well, some do hate you, but while it is quite obvious for the casual observer that being “liberated” is not the wholesome experience you imagine it to be, you cannot even imagine why they hate you.

What can I say, pride cometh before the fall and when the gods want to destroy you, first, they strike you with blindness.

To even assume that America plays a big enough role in my emotional universe to actually hate her is hubris.

Ah, yep. It’s the “GodDamn Ameriaca” that Orion fell in love with. He’s never met an America hating, racist, marxist he didn’t like.

We have “Death to America” parties.

We put on Rocky IV and cheer for Ivan Drago.

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Just out of curiosity, are you European or Turkish?

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Sloth wrote:
orion wrote:
Sloth wrote:

Are you a libertarian? Or, do you believe in government intervention (Affirmative Action and welfare programs) to foster “equality?”

Why do you ask?

Because I do automatically think anyone not agreeing with me is the debil?

Just cause you seem absolutely committed to defending a proponent of Affirmative Action and wealth redistribution programs, based on race. You know, totally opposite of the Libertarian stance.

Anti-American comes first.

Gotta have priorities.

The funny thing is, you’re serious. As long as he says “God Damn American” you could care less what a bigoted, self-seperatist, welfare statist has to say.

What you guys really need to learn is to get over your ego.

Or pride, you know, the root of all sins, if you are of the more conservative persuasion.

It is absolutely, positively, possible to be against Americas policies or to be disgusted by sound bite character assassination without hating America as a whole.

It is as if you cannot conceive that critics could actually have a point, they all must hate America for inexplicable reasons for you could do no wrong.

Well, some do hate you, but while it is quite obvious for the casual observer that being “liberated” is not the wholesome experience you imagine it to be, you cannot even imagine why they hate you.

What can I say, pride cometh before the fall and when the gods want to destroy you, first, they strike you with blindness.

To even assume that America plays a big enough role in my emotional universe to actually hate her is hubris.

Ah, yep. It’s the “GodDamn Ameriaca” that Orion fell in love with. He’s never met an America hating, racist, marxist he didn’t like.

We have “Death to America” parties.

We put on Rocky IV and cheer for Ivan Drago.

Just out of curiosity, are you European or Turkish?[/quote]

My new avatar gave it away, huh?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain.
are you talking God damn America ? God is not a name

True, plus, I doubt Jesus would have ignored our own society’s excesses and focused in on someone’s use of the name of God in a sentence like that. I think the current general public would be the only ones that shallow.

Hey Professor Post, we’ve found another topic that you don’t know anything about, religion:

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.”

Exodus 20:7

It’s also a commandment in case you didn’t know.

Forget his hateful racist remarks, tell us all how it’s okay for an ordained minister to preach in front of his congregation and take the Lords name in vain.

Go ahead Post we’re all waiting…

Since you’re the religion expert now and quoting Bible verses…why don’t you practice the values it teaches. Words are not the only form of “taking God’s name in vain.”

I doubt if Jesus came back today and walked around downtown New York that worrying about people saying, “Gawd damn” would even be anywhere near the top of the list of points to cover. I also don’t see Jesus getting up and leaving a church sermon because of it as Jesus was always able to see the larger picture.

He was also a politician of sorts and was apparently highly intelligent compared to the general population.

If anything, he would use that instance to bring unity, not to show seperatism from those in Church because one man in a pulpit said a “bad word” while ignoring the context of the message.[/quote]

Jesus would likely see Obama’s pastor’s comments as divisive and an offense to the house of God. As such, he may have whipped his ass!

"14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father’s house into a market!”

John 2:14-16 (New International Version)

[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
dk44 wrote:
I doubt Jesus would have liked God’s name to be taken in vain.
are you talking God damn America ? God is not a name

True, plus, I doubt Jesus would have ignored our own society’s excesses and focused in on someone’s use of the name of God in a sentence like that. I think the current general public would be the only ones that shallow.

Hey Professor Post, we’ve found another topic that you don’t know anything about, religion:

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.”

Exodus 20:7

It’s also a commandment in case you didn’t know.

Forget his hateful racist remarks, tell us all how it’s okay for an ordained minister to preach in front of his congregation and take the Lords name in vain.

Go ahead Post we’re all waiting…

Since you’re the religion expert now and quoting Bible verses…why don’t you practice the values it teaches. Words are not the only form of “taking God’s name in vain.”

I doubt if Jesus came back today and walked around downtown New York that worrying about people saying, “Gawd damn” would even be anywhere near the top of the list of points to cover. I also don’t see Jesus getting up and leaving a church sermon because of it as Jesus was always able to see the larger picture.

He was also a politician of sorts and was apparently highly intelligent compared to the general population.

If anything, he would use that instance to bring unity, not to show seperatism from those in Church because one man in a pulpit said a “bad word” while ignoring the context of the message.

Jesus would likely see Obama’s pastor’s comments as divisive and an offense to the house of God. As such, he may have whipped his ass!

"14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father’s house into a market!”

John 2:14-16 (New International Version)

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Yup, Jesus was all about pre-emptive war and kicking the asses of those opposing it.

You cannot, possibly, be serious.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
Hey Professor Post, we’ve found another topic that you don’t know anything about, religion:

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes his name in vain.”

Exodus 20:7

It’s also a commandment in case you didn’t know.

"…By the way since when do you have to be an “expert in religion” in order to name one of the commandments??

When you’re questioning other peoples faith and basically saying that they don’t know about religion. But thats ok,it doesn’t go against anything Jesus or the Bible teaches :wink:

I see, you’re stating that in order to question anothers religious commentary you have to be an exppert right?

Then why did you question me?

Try again.
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You’re blind. Its right there in your face: you told Prof.X he didn’t know anything about religion as if you’re all high and mighty. I never questioned your faith or religion…you’re too obvious. It would have been different if you were addressing Wright’s commentary directly,but you were not…you’re attacking anothers beliefs now.