Obama's Birth Certificate 'Fails Every Test'

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]sufiandy wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]americaninsweden wrote:
Enemy of the country? That is just absurd. I hated Bush #2 and think that the conservative fiscal policy has completely screwed this country (esp since Reagan). I think Bush was completely incompetent, a horrible president and overall a wreck for America both at home and abroad. However, I never thought that he was conspiring to harm the country, at least knowingly. Only delusional conspiracy theorists actually believe this nonsense. I will watch the video tomorrow btw, its 2 am where I am and my gf is sleeping, so i am not commenting on the whole birth certificate issue yet.[/quote]

sorry, just had to get an lol in here about Bushes “conservative” fiscal policy.[/quote]Oh I know LOL!! that is a good one LOL!! Bush spent money hand over fist. And not just on the war either.
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So what makes Bush so likable to some people who are so against Obama? Do they just blindly follow their political party assuming its in their best interests?[/quote]

There are other issues besides fiscal policy. But there are also differences in degree.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Confirmed: Obama's Birth Certificate Not Authentic 2012 - YouTube!

Now proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Thank you, Sheriff Joe!

Put Obama, the human debris, in prison where he belongs.[/quote]

I just wish that crap wasn’t on the bottom of the video screen when Heather Moore was talking!

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Try to examine why you feel this way. You disagree with his left wing agenda, so do I. But we shouldn’t necessarily ascribe evil to those who do not think the way we do. Remember all of the idiots on the left saying George Bush was trading blood for oil? And that he was somehow getting rich from the war in Iraq? They sounded like morons.

Well you sound the same way right now - Be objective enough to see this and step back.[/quote]

You can’t be objective enough to realize that because of your extreme dislike for Obama that you’re willing to believe the worst? Just like those who hated Bush you are buying into a king size self-delusion. And you do this because you know that (in your own mind) you are a good person and if you are good and you dislike Obama then he is therefore bad (black and white syndrome). And bad people lie about birth certificates and their religion and plenty of other things.

Wow…This is what makes politics difficult. The fringe on both sides who insist that because they hate a certain candidate that he must be inherently evil.

Okay HH…Ooookay.

Don’t feel you have to respond to me as I’m not trying to win an argument. But please consider what I’ve written give it some serious thought.

I’m done.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
It is lazy and evil to just dismiss legitimate concerns about the prez as ‘birthers’. This is like sheep bleating, to drown out the truth.

"Journalists did not address the fact that the president was refusing to resolve an issue about his constitutional eligibility. Instead, they covered the �¢??birther�¢?? movement in an effort to discredit any American who had a legitimate question.

Mainstream news organizations did not want to get grouped in with �¢??birthers�¢?? because they had been compared effectively to the Sept. 11 �¢??truther�¢?? movements, and anyone who raised birth-certificate questions was labeled paranoid, crazy and even racist.

However, there�¢??s a big difference between people who just wanted to see Mr. Obama�¢??s birth certificate and those who believe that our own government caused the worst terrorist attack in American history, especially when there already is a mountain of evidence pointing to al Qaeda as the perpetrator. With the Obama birth-certificate issue, the archive of evidence was slim, and his refusal to release the more extensive version of his birth certificate rightfully created more suspicion.

In fact, the Obama birth-certificate issue is more similar to what happened when President Clinton refused to give a straight answer about his indiscretions in the White House. The more the president evaded the issue, the more curious and upset people became."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/27/obamas-birth-certificate-proves-america-782351195/[/quote]

Part of the problem that Clinton faced is he couldn’t come up with a catchy name to describe his critics and lump them into a tidy group. ie “fellators”, “blowers”, “suckers”, “bukakers” none of the names stuck.

With Obama the simple fact is that he refused to deal with the issue and lay it to rest immediately. Instead he dragged it through the courts for years and refused to come clean. Actions that are not unreasonable to consider suspicious.

For someone who has nothing to hide he certainly spent a lot of money to give the appearance that he did. Not releasing his college records hasn’t helped either.
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He disregarded the birth certificate issue on advice from those who said to let the far right make fools of themselves over a non-issue, and that’s exactly what they’ve done.

He has not released his college records because they obviously show him to be an average student. And that would tarnish the “the smartest man alive” nonsense that they’ve been peddling.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Try to examine why you feel this way. You disagree with his left wing agenda, so do I. But we shouldn’t necessarily ascribe evil to those who do not think the way we do. Remember all of the idiots on the left saying George Bush was trading blood for oil? And that he was somehow getting rich from the war in Iraq? They sounded like morons.

Well you sound the same way right now - Be objective enough to see this and step back.[/quote]

You can’t be objective enough to realize that because of your extreme dislike for Obama that you’re willing to believe the worst? Just like those who hated Bush you are buying into a king size self-delusion. And you do this because you know that (in your own mind) you are a good person and if you are good and you dislike Obama then he is therefore bad (black and white syndrome). And bad people lie about birth certificates and their religion and plenty of other things.

Wow…This is what makes politics difficult. The fringe on both sides who insist that because they hate a certain candidate that he must be inherently evil.

Okay HH…Ooookay.

Don’t feel you have to respond to me as I’m not trying to win an argument. But please consider what I’ve written give it some serious thought.

I’m done.[/quote]

ZEB…you are answering your own question with Headhunters name attached to it??

Que??

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

Try to examine why you feel this way. You disagree with his left wing agenda, so do I. But we shouldn’t necessarily ascribe evil to those who do not think the way we do. Remember all of the idiots on the left saying George Bush was trading blood for oil? And that he was somehow getting rich from the war in Iraq? They sounded like morons.

Well you sound the same way right now - Be objective enough to see this and step back.[/quote]

You can’t be objective enough to realize that because of your extreme dislike for Obama that you’re willing to believe the worst? Just like those who hated Bush you are buying into a king size self-delusion. And you do this because you know that (in your own mind) you are a good person and if you are good and you dislike Obama then he is therefore bad (black and white syndrome). And bad people lie about birth certificates and their religion and plenty of other things.

Wow…This is what makes politics difficult. The fringe on both sides who insist that because they hate a certain candidate that he must be inherently evil.

Okay HH…Ooookay.

Don’t feel you have to respond to me as I’m not trying to win an argument. But please consider what I’ve written give it some serious thought.

I’m done.[/quote]

ZEB…you are answering your own question with Headhunters name attached to it??

Que??[/quote]

It was more of a dissertation than a question. I am intrigued and disgusted at the same time by people who are unable to disattach themselves from their emotions so that they can think logically. This is as much a curse of the human mind as any weakness that I’ve seen so far (in myself and others).

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
It is lazy and evil to just dismiss legitimate concerns about the prez as ‘birthers’. This is like sheep bleating, to drown out the truth.

"Journalists did not address the fact that the president was refusing to resolve an issue about his constitutional eligibility. Instead, they covered the �?�¢??birther�?�¢?? movement in an effort to discredit any American who had a legitimate question.

Mainstream news organizations did not want to get grouped in with �?�¢??birthers�?�¢?? because they had been compared effectively to the Sept. 11 �?�¢??truther�?�¢?? movements, and anyone who raised birth-certificate questions was labeled paranoid, crazy and even racist.

However, there�?�¢??s a big difference between people who just wanted to see Mr. Obama�?�¢??s birth certificate and those who believe that our own government caused the worst terrorist attack in American history, especially when there already is a mountain of evidence pointing to al Qaeda as the perpetrator. With the Obama birth-certificate issue, the archive of evidence was slim, and his refusal to release the more extensive version of his birth certificate rightfully created more suspicion.

In fact, the Obama birth-certificate issue is more similar to what happened when President Clinton refused to give a straight answer about his indiscretions in the White House. The more the president evaded the issue, the more curious and upset people became."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/27/obamas-birth-certificate-proves-america-782351195/[/quote]

Part of the problem that Clinton faced is he couldn’t come up with a catchy name to describe his critics and lump them into a tidy group. ie “fellators”, “blowers”, “suckers”, “bukakers” none of the names stuck.

With Obama the simple fact is that he refused to deal with the issue and lay it to rest immediately. Instead he dragged it through the courts for years and refused to come clean. Actions that are not unreasonable to consider suspicious.

For someone who has nothing to hide he certainly spent a lot of money to give the appearance that he did. Not releasing his college records hasn’t helped either.
[/quote]

He disregarded the birth certificate issue on advice from those who said to let the far right make fools of themselves over a non-issue, and that’s exactly what they’ve done.

He has not released his college records because they obviously show him to be an average student. And that would tarnish the “the smartest man alive” nonsense that they’ve been peddling. [/quote]

He’s played it well that’s for sure. But it does say something about his character that he is going to play games like that.

At the end of the day, the real issue is the press didn’t even try to properly vet him. That is why he has been able to play these games.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:
He has not released his college records because they obviously show him to be an average student. And that would tarnish the “the smartest man alive” nonsense that they’ve been peddling. [/quote]

Seriously? Is that why Hillary Clinton hid her thesis? The one that turned out to be a fawning appraisal of radical Communist Saul Alinsky’s techniques? There’s loads of questions that people want answered about Obama. This guy invites questions. Lots of them. You realise with his known record of contacts with extremists Obama would not pass an FBI or CIA background check? Obama would not qualify to be his own bodyguard because he would be considered a security risk.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
It is lazy and evil to just dismiss legitimate concerns about the prez as ‘birthers’. This is like sheep bleating, to drown out the truth.

"Journalists did not address the fact that the president was refusing to resolve an issue about his constitutional eligibility. Instead, they covered the �??�?�¢??birther�??�?�¢?? movement in an effort to discredit any American who had a legitimate question.

Mainstream news organizations did not want to get grouped in with �??�?�¢??birthers�??�?�¢?? because they had been compared effectively to the Sept. 11 �??�?�¢??truther�??�?�¢?? movements, and anyone who raised birth-certificate questions was labeled paranoid, crazy and even racist.

However, there�??�?�¢??s a big difference between people who just wanted to see Mr. Obama�??�?�¢??s birth certificate and those who believe that our own government caused the worst terrorist attack in American history, especially when there already is a mountain of evidence pointing to al Qaeda as the perpetrator. With the Obama birth-certificate issue, the archive of evidence was slim, and his refusal to release the more extensive version of his birth certificate rightfully created more suspicion.

In fact, the Obama birth-certificate issue is more similar to what happened when President Clinton refused to give a straight answer about his indiscretions in the White House. The more the president evaded the issue, the more curious and upset people became."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/27/obamas-birth-certificate-proves-america-782351195/[/quote]

Part of the problem that Clinton faced is he couldn’t come up with a catchy name to describe his critics and lump them into a tidy group. ie “fellators”, “blowers”, “suckers”, “bukakers” none of the names stuck.

With Obama the simple fact is that he refused to deal with the issue and lay it to rest immediately. Instead he dragged it through the courts for years and refused to come clean. Actions that are not unreasonable to consider suspicious.

For someone who has nothing to hide he certainly spent a lot of money to give the appearance that he did. Not releasing his college records hasn’t helped either.
[/quote]

He disregarded the birth certificate issue on advice from those who said to let the far right make fools of themselves over a non-issue, and that’s exactly what they’ve done.

He has not released his college records because they obviously show him to be an average student. And that would tarnish the “the smartest man alive” nonsense that they’ve been peddling. [/quote]

He’s played it well that’s for sure. But it does say something about his character that he is going to play games like that.

At the end of the day, the real issue is the press didn’t even try to properly vet him. That is why he has been able to play these games.[/quote]

True, the press did a disservice to the electorate when they traded in what was left of their journalistic integrity to rally around Obama in 08.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote] http://www.wdtkam.com/ 8 am Saturday mornings. It’s a live radio show that is on right now. Click listen live. This is a show run by local black Detroit pastors who do a far better job of demonstrating why Barack Obama is a God hating, American hating enemy combatant than I ever could. Do NOT presuppose you already know what you will hear. Give a listen Zeb, And anyone else. 8 am Saturday mornings. BTW, I do not know nor am I in any was affiliated with these fine men of God.

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[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote] http://www.wdtkam.com/ 8 am Saturday mornings. It’s a live radio show that is on right now. Click listen live. This is a show run by local black Detroit pastors who do a far better job of demonstrating why Barack Obama is a God hating, American hating enemy combatant than I ever could. Do NOT presuppose you already know what you will hear. Give a listen Zeb, And anyone else. 8 am Saturday mornings. BTW, I do not know nor am I in any was affiliated with these fine men of God.
[/quote]

My only question would be how do Pastor’s in Detroit have first hand knowledge of Obama’s alleged hate of our country?

It all seems so very political to me.

But, I’ll give it a listen Trib.

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It’s all show, folks. They’re all raping the treasury, that is, us, no matter which party they’re from.

Want proof? Follow this logic. All the US votes are now counted by machines owned by some company in Spain. The Republicans haven’t so much as mentioned this on any major platform, if at all. There is no opposition party to the one in power. Two sides to the same coin.

What to know how this ends? Study ancient Rome. Hostium Intra. Hail Caesar.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote] http://www.wdtkam.com/ 8 am Saturday mornings. It’s a live radio show that is on right now. Click listen live. This is a show run by local black Detroit pastors who do a far better job of demonstrating why Barack Obama is a God hating, American hating enemy combatant than I ever could. Do NOT presuppose you already know what you will hear. Give a listen Zeb, And anyone else. 8 am Saturday mornings. BTW, I do not know nor am I in any was affiliated with these fine men of God.
[/quote]

My only question would be how do Pastor’s in Detroit have first hand knowledge of Obama’s alleged hate of our country?

It all seems so very political to me.

But, I’ll give it a listen Trib.[/quote]It usually takes from one Saturday morning to the next for me to recover from the whiplash I give myself nodding up and down listening to these guys. Trust me. This is not cheap sensationalism and you may be shocked to hear them reluctantly embracing Romney if it means defeating Obama. These men see themselves as men first. Created in the image of God. Husbands next, father’s after that and black somewhere down the list.

Just wait til you hear the hate they get from other blacks because they ARE NOT racist haters themselves. Christ defines them. Not the color of their skin. They have the wise insight to see what I have been saying since day one around here. They LOVE this country and celebrate her founding, crediting the high morality that was once her foundation as the weapon that defeated slavery AND they strongly rebuke fellow blacks who will not move beyond that issue. They say that the principles that made this country great for white people can make it great for anybody. Sound familiar?

These guys REALLY get it where it counts most and not just for black folks. Like I told Sloth. You will have your head in your hands pleading WHY GOD WHY cannot more Americans in general and especially black Americans in particular understand what these men are saying. They know why and they will tell you why.

If Barack Obama had gone to one of these men’s churches for 20 years instead of that reprobate Jeremiah Wright? I would campaign for him myself. With extreme enthusiasm.

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[quote]Thuggish wrote:
It’s all show, folks. They’re all raping the treasury, that is, us, no matter which party they’re from.

Want proof? Follow this logic. All the US votes are now counted by machines owned by some company in Spain. The Republicans haven’t so much as mentioned this on any major platform, if at all. There is no opposition party to the one in power. Two sides to the same coin.

What to know how this ends? Study ancient Rome. Hostium Intra. Hail Caesar.[/quote]

It’s true I’ve said it many times in the past, some people should just not comment on political affairs. There’s just too much to take in and they get all confused.

Thanks for proving me correct.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Thuggish wrote:
It’s all show, folks. They’re all raping the treasury, that is, us, no matter which party they’re from.

Want proof? Follow this logic. All the US votes are now counted by machines owned by some company in Spain. The Republicans haven’t so much as mentioned this on any major platform, if at all. There is no opposition party to the one in power. Two sides to the same coin.

What to know how this ends? Study ancient Rome. Hostium Intra. Hail Caesar.[/quote]

It’s true I’ve said it many times in the past, some people should just not comment on political affairs. There’s just too much to take in and they get all confused.

Thanks for proving me correct.[/quote]

Do explain

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[quote]Thuggish wrote:

Do explain[/quote]

So Spain is staging a secret coup in the US?

These conspiracies get better and better.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Thuggish wrote:

Do explain[/quote]

So Spain is staging a secret coup in the US?

These conspiracies get better and better.[/quote]

He throws that out there with other classic lines like,

“they’re all raping the treasury…”

“the republicans failed to mention that the voting machines are made in Spain…”

And follows that by claiming that “there is no opposition to the party in power.”

Somehow I bet Obama doesn’t quite agree with that one.

Then ends urging us to “study ancient Rome…Hail Caesar.”

No really this is a true classic post befitting of a thread entitled “Obama’s birth certificate fails every test.”

And he wants an explanation (eye roll)

Some of these people are just flat out frightening.

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When did I say Spain was doing anything, other than being the home of the company that counts US votes?

Is this not alarming in itself? Am I crazy to want America to count its own votes?

You’re probably right, our president right now isn’t going nuts with one power grab after another, while the other party sits almost silently. Running up the debt to the GDP and beyond, that’s not raping the treasury, you’re right, I’m overreacting. Countries do that all the time and it always works out wonderfully for them.

Oh, and that whole thing in the NDAA where the gov. can now detain US citizens indefinitely based solely upon “suspicion” of being a terrorist… Don’t worry about that stuff. After all, he promised not to use it, right?

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[quote]Thuggish wrote:
It’s all show, folks. They’re all raping the treasury, that is, us, no matter which party they’re from.

Want proof? Follow this logic. All the US votes are now counted by machines owned by some company in Spain. The Republicans haven’t so much as mentioned this on any major platform, if at all. There is no opposition party to the one in power. Two sides to the same coin.

What to know how this ends? Study ancient Rome. Hostium Intra. Hail Caesar.[/quote]

The Democrats haven’t mentioned that either.

Oh yeah and some car parts in “American” made cars are made in Japan!

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[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:

[quote]Thuggish wrote:
It’s all show, folks. They’re all raping the treasury, that is, us, no matter which party they’re from.

Want proof? Follow this logic. All the US votes are now counted by machines owned by some company in Spain. The Republicans haven’t so much as mentioned this on any major platform, if at all. There is no opposition party to the one in power. Two sides to the same coin.

What to know how this ends? Study ancient Rome. Hostium Intra. Hail Caesar.[/quote]

The Democrats haven’t mentioned that either.

Oh yeah and some car parts in “American” made cars are made in Japan![/quote]

I wouldn’t expect the Democrats to mention anything even close to that until they didn’t control the white house.

And as it happens, the Japanese autos could teach our car companies quite a few things when it comes to how to run a company. In fact, the Japanese owned plants in America are some of the best in the world, better even than the Japanese plants in Japan.