[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
Appropriate?[/quote]
Ã??Ã?¢??There are no evil thoughts except one: the refusal to think.Ã??Ã?¢?? – Ayn Rand[/quote]
There isn’t a refusal to think, but since you want to think put this into your brain.
Do you really think that either house is going to take up this issue and get it to go ANYWHERE when we are 7 months out from the election?
Not to mention as a tax payer in AZ shouldn’t these “investigators” be working on something like say solving murders and other crimes in the community?[/quote]
Crime of the century > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.
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His volunteer investigators didn’t have much to say other than “it’s a fake.” I wouldn’t call that conclusive.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?
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Enemy of the country?
I know there are people here more knowledgeable about US politics than me, so please answer this question for me…
Is it mandatory that presidential candidates present their US birth certificates at some point prior to, or during the presidential election ?
Has any other president NOT shown or proven their citizenship in American History ?
On a side note, it has been speculated, that THIS is what was behind Breitbart’s ending. He was helping Sheriff Joe with the birth certificate issue.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I know there are people here more knowledgeable about US politics than me, so please answer this question for me…
Is it mandatory that presidential candidates present their US birth certificates at some point prior to, or during the presidential election ?
Has any other president NOT shown or proven their citizenship in American History ?
On a side note, it has been speculated, that THIS is what was behind Breitbart’s ending. He was helping Sheriff Joe with the birth certificate issue. [/quote]
I’ve never heard of any Presidential candidate having to show their birth certificate. And I hope you’re not buying into Breitbart’s death having anything to do with this birth certificate issue.
Please…we need to remain objective. We can dislike Obama as a President but we don’t have to think of him as a muderer right?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I know there are people here more knowledgeable about US politics than me, so please answer this question for me…
Is it mandatory that presidential candidates present their US birth certificates at some point prior to, or during the presidential election ?
Has any other president NOT shown or proven their citizenship in American History ?
On a side note, it has been speculated, that THIS is what was behind Breitbart’s ending. He was helping Sheriff Joe with the birth certificate issue. [/quote]
I’ve never heard of any Presidential candidate having to show their birth certificate. And I hope you’re not buying into Breitbart’s death having anything to do with this birth certificate issue.
Please…we need to remain objective. We can dislike Obama as a President but we don’t have to think of him as a muderer right?[/quote]
He murdered several people.
The question is whether he murdered Breitbart.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote]Obama I mean.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
Appropriate?[/quote]
Ã??Ã?¢??There are no evil thoughts except one: the refusal to think.Ã??Ã?¢?? – Ayn Rand[/quote]
There isn’t a refusal to think, but since you want to think put this into your brain.
Do you really think that either house is going to take up this issue and get it to go ANYWHERE when we are 7 months out from the election?
Not to mention as a tax payer in AZ shouldn’t these “investigators” be working on something like say solving murders and other crimes in the community?[/quote]
Crime of the century > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.
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Fine then somebody needs to file charges, name the person of interest? But otherwise this is just political grand standing so Sheriff Joe can get his name out there some more.
BTW there are reports out there that they have a back log of sex crimes going back to 2007 maybe some of the 2200 man hours could have been spent on that?
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote]Obama I mean.
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You think Obama is an enemy of the United States?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote]Obama I mean.
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You think Obama is an enemy of the United States? [/quote]
I do.
It is lazy and evil to just dismiss legitimate concerns about the prez as ‘birthers’. This is like sheep bleating, to drown out the truth.
"Journalists did not address the fact that the president was refusing to resolve an issue about his constitutional eligibility. Instead, they covered the â??birtherâ?? movement in an effort to discredit any American who had a legitimate question.
Mainstream news organizations did not want to get grouped in with â??birthersâ?? because they had been compared effectively to the Sept. 11 â??trutherâ?? movements, and anyone who raised birth-certificate questions was labeled paranoid, crazy and even racist.
However, thereâ??s a big difference between people who just wanted to see Mr. Obamaâ??s birth certificate and those who believe that our own government caused the worst terrorist attack in American history, especially when there already is a mountain of evidence pointing to al Qaeda as the perpetrator. With the Obama birth-certificate issue, the archive of evidence was slim, and his refusal to release the more extensive version of his birth certificate rightfully created more suspicion.
In fact, the Obama birth-certificate issue is more similar to what happened when President Clinton refused to give a straight answer about his indiscretions in the White House. The more the president evaded the issue, the more curious and upset people became."
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote]Obama I mean.
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You think Obama is an enemy of the United States? [/quote]
I do.
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Try to examine why you feel this way. You disagree with his left wing agenda, so do I. But we shouldn’t necessarily ascribe evil to those who do not think the way we do. Remember all of the idiots on the left saying George Bush was trading blood for oil? And that he was somehow getting rich from the war in Iraq? They sounded like morons.
Well you sound the same way right now - Be objective enough to see this and step back.
Enemy of the country? That is just absurd. I hated Bush #2 and think that the conservative fiscal policy has completely screwed this country (esp since Reagan). I think Bush was completely incompetent, a horrible president and overall a wreck for America both at home and abroad. However, I never thought that he was conspiring to harm the country, at least knowingly. Only delusional conspiracy theorists actually believe this nonsense. I will watch the video tomorrow btw, its 2 am where I am and my gf is sleeping, so i am not commenting on the whole birth certificate issue yet.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
It is lazy and evil to just dismiss legitimate concerns about the prez as ‘birthers’. This is like sheep bleating, to drown out the truth.
"Journalists did not address the fact that the president was refusing to resolve an issue about his constitutional eligibility. Instead, they covered the â??birtherâ?? movement in an effort to discredit any American who had a legitimate question.
Mainstream news organizations did not want to get grouped in with â??birthersâ?? because they had been compared effectively to the Sept. 11 â??trutherâ?? movements, and anyone who raised birth-certificate questions was labeled paranoid, crazy and even racist.
However, thereâ??s a big difference between people who just wanted to see Mr. Obamaâ??s birth certificate and those who believe that our own government caused the worst terrorist attack in American history, especially when there already is a mountain of evidence pointing to al Qaeda as the perpetrator. With the Obama birth-certificate issue, the archive of evidence was slim, and his refusal to release the more extensive version of his birth certificate rightfully created more suspicion.
In fact, the Obama birth-certificate issue is more similar to what happened when President Clinton refused to give a straight answer about his indiscretions in the White House. The more the president evaded the issue, the more curious and upset people became."
Then impeach him or get over it! (wonder why none of AZ’s federaly elected memebers weighed in on this? at least I haven’t seen any)
You must be really bored you haven’t posted anything about Sarah Palin in over a month.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]ZEB wrote:
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:<<< Sheriff Joe proved it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Its a phony document. Even if not a soul listens, that’s the truth.[/quote]It may be, but nobody in a position to make anything meaningful out of it cares. I agree with your picture. I said during the campaign from day one that this man was an enemy of this country. Remember? Do you really think that people willing to vote for him after four years of watching this disaster care about his birth certificate?[/quote]Enemy of the country?[/quote]Obama I mean.
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Every prof he ever had, his parents and grandparents, taught him that America is an evil and aggressive nation. So he is doing his moral best to stop ‘the Great Satan’.
If for ex he had spent a trillion dollars rebuilding the roads and sewers (all rotting and in need of repair), he’d be seen as a good pres even though he increased the debt. Instead he gave it to his friends at Morgan and Goldman. Bankers want to enslave us and he helped them.
You think Obama is an enemy of the United States? [/quote]
I do.
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Try to examine why you feel this way. You disagree with his left wing agenda, so do I. But we shouldn’t necessarily ascribe evil to those who do not think the way we do. Remember all of the idiots on the left saying George Bush was trading blood for oil? And that he was somehow getting rich from the war in Iraq? They sounded like morons.
Well you sound the same way right now - Be objective enough to see this and step back.[/quote]
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
It is lazy and evil to just dismiss legitimate concerns about the prez as ‘birthers’. This is like sheep bleating, to drown out the truth.
"Journalists did not address the fact that the president was refusing to resolve an issue about his constitutional eligibility. Instead, they covered the �¢??birther�¢?? movement in an effort to discredit any American who had a legitimate question.
Mainstream news organizations did not want to get grouped in with �¢??birthers�¢?? because they had been compared effectively to the Sept. 11 �¢??truther�¢?? movements, and anyone who raised birth-certificate questions was labeled paranoid, crazy and even racist.
However, there�¢??s a big difference between people who just wanted to see Mr. Obama�¢??s birth certificate and those who believe that our own government caused the worst terrorist attack in American history, especially when there already is a mountain of evidence pointing to al Qaeda as the perpetrator. With the Obama birth-certificate issue, the archive of evidence was slim, and his refusal to release the more extensive version of his birth certificate rightfully created more suspicion.
In fact, the Obama birth-certificate issue is more similar to what happened when President Clinton refused to give a straight answer about his indiscretions in the White House. The more the president evaded the issue, the more curious and upset people became."
You must be really bored you haven’t posted anything about Sarah Palin in over a month.[/quote]
I’ve been working the past several months putting some finishing touches on our new complex outside of Salt Lake City.
[quote]americaninsweden wrote:
Enemy of the country? That is just absurd. I hated Bush #2 and think that the conservative fiscal policy has completely screwed this country (esp since Reagan). I think Bush was completely incompetent, a horrible president and overall a wreck for America both at home and abroad. However, I never thought that he was conspiring to harm the country, at least knowingly. Only delusional conspiracy theorists actually believe this nonsense. I will watch the video tomorrow btw, its 2 am where I am and my gf is sleeping, so i am not commenting on the whole birth certificate issue yet.[/quote]
sorry, just had to get an lol in here about Bushes “conservative” fiscal policy.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]americaninsweden wrote:
Enemy of the country? That is just absurd. I hated Bush #2 and think that the conservative fiscal policy has completely screwed this country (esp since Reagan). I think Bush was completely incompetent, a horrible president and overall a wreck for America both at home and abroad. However, I never thought that he was conspiring to harm the country, at least knowingly. Only delusional conspiracy theorists actually believe this nonsense. I will watch the video tomorrow btw, its 2 am where I am and my gf is sleeping, so i am not commenting on the whole birth certificate issue yet.[/quote]
sorry, just had to get an lol in here about Bushes “conservative” fiscal policy.[/quote]Oh I know LOL!! that is a good one LOL!! Bush spent money hand over fist. And not just on the war either.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
It is lazy and evil to just dismiss legitimate concerns about the prez as ‘birthers’. This is like sheep bleating, to drown out the truth.
"Journalists did not address the fact that the president was refusing to resolve an issue about his constitutional eligibility. Instead, they covered the â??birtherâ?? movement in an effort to discredit any American who had a legitimate question.
Mainstream news organizations did not want to get grouped in with â??birthersâ?? because they had been compared effectively to the Sept. 11 â??trutherâ?? movements, and anyone who raised birth-certificate questions was labeled paranoid, crazy and even racist.
However, thereâ??s a big difference between people who just wanted to see Mr. Obamaâ??s birth certificate and those who believe that our own government caused the worst terrorist attack in American history, especially when there already is a mountain of evidence pointing to al Qaeda as the perpetrator. With the Obama birth-certificate issue, the archive of evidence was slim, and his refusal to release the more extensive version of his birth certificate rightfully created more suspicion.
In fact, the Obama birth-certificate issue is more similar to what happened when President Clinton refused to give a straight answer about his indiscretions in the White House. The more the president evaded the issue, the more curious and upset people became."
Part of the problem that Clinton faced is he couldn’t come up with a catchy name to describe his critics and lump them into a tidy group. ie “fellators”, “blowers”, “suckers”, “bukakers” none of the names stuck.
With Obama the simple fact is that he refused to deal with the issue and lay it to rest immediately. Instead he dragged it through the courts for years and refused to come clean. Actions that are not unreasonable to consider suspicious.
For someone who has nothing to hide he certainly spent a lot of money to give the appearance that he did. Not releasing his college records hasn’t helped either.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]americaninsweden wrote:
Enemy of the country? That is just absurd. I hated Bush #2 and think that the conservative fiscal policy has completely screwed this country (esp since Reagan). I think Bush was completely incompetent, a horrible president and overall a wreck for America both at home and abroad. However, I never thought that he was conspiring to harm the country, at least knowingly. Only delusional conspiracy theorists actually believe this nonsense. I will watch the video tomorrow btw, its 2 am where I am and my gf is sleeping, so i am not commenting on the whole birth certificate issue yet.[/quote]
sorry, just had to get an lol in here about Bushes “conservative” fiscal policy.[/quote]Oh I know LOL!! that is a good one LOL!! Bush spent money hand over fist. And not just on the war either.
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So what makes Bush so likable to some people who are so against Obama? Do they just blindly follow their political party assuming its in their best interests?