Obama Report Card

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
toejam wrote:
even the liberal medias starting to catch on to this fool.

That’s simply not true. Logically, the EVIL LIBERAL MEDIA would want him to be MORE liberal- none of us are calling him the second coming of Stalin.

Which means he’s more in the center than you people initially thought.

So… you’re wrong too.

Take a motherfuckin logic class you wingnut shits.[/quote]

Where precisely has he presented in the “center”? Example please.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Slayers wrote:
Irish he is not doing his job. What is he doing right now is what all the sheep want him to do and that is make everyone need the government so much that at the end of the roller coaster no will ever question what happened.

The job of the government is not to give the people jobs, money, or even health care. The government is only there to make and up hold laws and keep the people of the country safe. When the Government gets involved with big Business it is no longer a capitalist it now becomes socialist which will bring out all the Stalin and Hitler names along with it.

Absolutely not true. Companies begged for a bailout. They received it, with strings attached.

Is this pure capitalism? No. But we have never been a purely capitalist country- it’s always been a mix of capitalism coupled with government intervention. Which works. If you want to call it socialism, if that makes you GOPers get hard ons and helps you prove your point, fine. But it’s simply not true. There are many levels of integration between the two systems… you would be hard pressed to find a country that is purely capitalist.

Governments must make laws concerning big business. When they are left to their own devices, the only ones who benefit are the shareholders. Wall Street fucked us badly enough in the past year that you should all understand that by now.

And he really did not have much to do with the pirate attack the navy ships have been there since George was in office and they have orders not to do anything unless it looks like a life will be taken. The seals did just that when there were trying to get them to surrender the captain made a move to escape and had guns pointed at him so there was only one thing to do and it was to kill them all.

Use a fuckin comma once in a while. I have no idea what you’re getting at.[/quote]

Wall Street fucked us badly? You know Wall street could not have done shit if Barney Frank and his cronies did not force companies to make bad loans, right? You do know that government getting involved was the problem in the first place.
Yes, there needs to be rules and laws, but those should be limited to stealing and cheating in it’s various forms. There should be no laws dictating business practices.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
dhickey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
dhickey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:

Take a motherfuckin logic class you wingnut shits.

I thought this was ironic. Way to live up to the Jersey dope stereotype.

Please. I’ve said before that you are the worst of the worst on this board, the lunatic fringe of the “libertarians.” An insult from you is what I’m aiming for… let’s me know that I’ve kept my sanity.

I guess believing in the founding principals of this country is lunitic fringe now?

The way you explain it? Yea.

And I didn’t even have to bring up Minnesota’s stupid fucking fargo accent or the state’s lack of of a city with more than 35 people. Kiss my ass.

Fargo is in North Dakota

Newark - 280k
Minneapolis - 377K
St. Paul - 277k

Thanks for making my point yet again.

I know where it is shitbag. But you’ve all got the same horrific accent.

And congrats about taking the time out of your life to look up statistics to prove to me that Minnesota does, in fact, have a city with more than 35 people. Good job.[/quote]

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

[quote]pat wrote:
<<< Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented. [/quote]

The line is he doesn’t give fringe wingnuts the time of day. I actually think he’s better than this. Like a couple other people around here who hold hopelessly discredited positions Irish is not a stupid person. The irony is, his dream administration may be the first step in his awakening to the disastrous truth of the poisonous ideology he holds so dear. He’ll probably come back with a snarling response about my delusional right wing arrogance, but down inside even he’s beginning to wonder how great an idea some of this shit is.

[quote]pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented. [/quote]

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Always handy to have an occasional reminder why a given individual is on the Ignore list.

Always nice to have an occasional reminder that there’s pussies out there that block what they don’t agree with. [/quote]

Yep…keep telling yourself that’s what’s happening.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself. [/quote]

You would have to make a valid point to successfully participated in an arguement. You just prove time and again you are incapable of rational arguement. Even your insults are tired and weak. Good job.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself. [/quote]

“What’s the matter Colonial Sanders, chicken?”

[quote]dhickey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself.

You would have to make a valid point to successfully participated in an arguement. You just prove time and again you are incapable of rational arguement. Even your insults are tired and weak. Good job. [/quote]

I disagree.

I actually think he IS capable of rational argument, but not even Einstein is convincing anybody that 2+2=5. He is defending indefensible positions for which his own enthusiasm is heartbreakingly beginning to wane and that exactly because he is an intelligent man with a conscience.

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself.

You would have to make a valid point to successfully participated in an arguement. You just prove time and again you are incapable of rational arguement. Even your insults are tired and weak. Good job.

I disagree.

I actually think he IS capable of rational argument, but not even Einstein is convincing anybody that 2+2=5. He is defending indefensible positions for which his own enthusiasm is heartbreakingly beginning to wane and that exactly because he is an intelligent man with a conscience.

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.[/quote]

You are right, the use of “rational” was not the most appropriate choice. Anything can be rationalized. I should have used logical.

Punching someone in the face that insults you is rational.

If you subsequently get your ass kicked and further insulted, it may not have been logical.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself.

You would have to make a valid point to successfully participated in an arguement. You just prove time and again you are incapable of rational arguement. Even your insults are tired and weak. Good job.

I disagree.

I actually think he IS capable of rational argument, but not even Einstein is convincing anybody that 2+2=5. He is defending indefensible positions for which his own enthusiasm is heartbreakingly beginning to wane and that exactly because he is an intelligent man with a conscience.

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.[/quote]

Which indefensible positions am I defending?

Is this another incidence of where you guys think liberal enthusiasm for Obama is waning?

Maybe I’m not clear on this.

[quote]dhickey wrote:

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.

You are right, the use of “rational” was not the most appropriate choice. Anything can be rationalized. I should have used logical.

Punching someone in the face that insults you is rational.

If you subsequently get your ass kicked and further insulted, it may not have been logical.[/quote]

Well I’m sorry if I lose patience on a board full of “libertarians” where every other thread is about 1) How much Obama/Pelosi/Democrat/liberals suck, 2) How America is becoming a “socialist” nation, 3) The Earth being 6,000 years old, and 4) If we think that we can have a revolution soon.

To a liberal like myself (and many people who read but DON’T post on this forum), many of you seem like you’re raving lunatics, hiding in your basements with assault rifles and banana clips while howling at the moon and blacklisting commis.

This, to me, is beyond amazing. I have often said that I respect certain member’s opinions on this board. Thunder is one of them, Rainjack was another (even though he’s evidently not allowed on). I respect conservatives… even some neocons. But not this Sarah Palin-type firebrand wannabe who votes for Ron Paul and doesn’t want to pay taxes. I don’t like the Flat-Earth religious loons either, although there’s less now then there used to be.

And finally, if you don’t like my swearing, blow me. This is the internet, and I truly don’t care about your virgin eyes.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
dhickey wrote:

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.

You are right, the use of “rational” was not the most appropriate choice. Anything can be rationalized. I should have used logical.

Punching someone in the face that insults you is rational.

If you subsequently get your ass kicked and further insulted, it may not have been logical.

Well I’m sorry if I lose patience on a board full of “libertarians” where every other thread is about 1) How much Obama/Pelosi/Democrat/liberals suck, 2) How America is becoming a “socialist” nation, 3) The Earth being 6,000 years old, and 4) If we think that we can have a revolution soon.

To a liberal like myself (and many people who read but DON’T post on this forum), many of you seem like you’re raving lunatics, hiding in your basements with assault rifles and banana clips while howling at the moon and blacklisting commis.

This, to me, is beyond amazing. I have often said that I respect certain member’s opinions on this board. Thunder is one of them, Rainjack was another (even though he’s evidently not allowed on). I respect conservatives… even some neocons. But not this Sarah Palin-type firebrand wannabe who votes for Ron Paul and doesn’t want to pay taxes. I don’t like the Flat-Earth religious loons either, although there’s less now then there used to be.

And finally, if you don’t like my swearing, blow me. This is the internet, and I truly don’t care about your virgin eyes.
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To me you are beyond chicken shit. Defend your points or your the one that looks like raving lunatic. We made specific points we disagree with and why…You on the other hand come around and call names and when asked to make points you whine that you are all alone and there is no one to protect you…WAH! I have been on many threads where I was the only one making my point of view.
If you have valid points make them, otherwise this mindless drivel you are spewing is ridiculous. What points do you dis agree with and why?

Right now to me it looks like you are liberal because somebody told you to be, or your “…from Boston and that’s just what you do”, or some republican beat the fuck out of you as a kid and your swore vengeance by being liberal, or lastly, your parents are conservative and you hate your parents.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself.

You would have to make a valid point to successfully participated in an arguement. You just prove time and again you are incapable of rational arguement. Even your insults are tired and weak. Good job.

I disagree.

I actually think he IS capable of rational argument, but not even Einstein is convincing anybody that 2+2=5. He is defending indefensible positions for which his own enthusiasm is heartbreakingly beginning to wane and that exactly because he is an intelligent man with a conscience.

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.

Which indefensible positions am I defending?
[/quote]
That’s what I’d like to know, what the fuck are you defending?

[quote]
Is this another incidence of where you guys think liberal enthusiasm for Obama is waning?

Maybe I’m not clear on this.[/quote]

You are correct, you are lacking some serious clarity…

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
dhickey wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Irish, make a point already. No insults, no venom, try to argue a point…All I have seen from you when somebody makes a point is, “Fuck you you dumb neocon douche-bag”. If somebody makes a point and the best you can do is insult them then you look foolish. Make a point, or counter argue the actual points presented.

Please. Because of one of two and a half liberals here, I’ve got to argue with the entire Blowjob Barn myself. I’ll say whatever the fuck I want to, whenever the fuck I want to. Keep your pointers to yourself.

You would have to make a valid point to successfully participated in an arguement. You just prove time and again you are incapable of rational arguement. Even your insults are tired and weak. Good job.

I disagree.

I actually think he IS capable of rational argument, but not even Einstein is convincing anybody that 2+2=5. He is defending indefensible positions for which his own enthusiasm is heartbreakingly beginning to wane and that exactly because he is an intelligent man with a conscience.

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.

Which indefensible positions am I defending?

Is this another incidence of where you guys think liberal enthusiasm for Obama is waning?

Maybe I’m not clear on this.[/quote]

Tell me you think cap and trade is good for America, that you believe it will induce a net increase of even one US job, that it will spawn a burgeoning industry that the profit motive has thus far missed and that you actually believe it’s motivated by concern for the environment. Tell me you believe that while sneering at people who believe in talking snakes. Start there.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Well I’m sorry if I lose patience on a board full of “libertarians” where every other thread is about 1) How much Obama/Pelosi/Democrat/liberals suck, 2) How America is becoming a “socialist” nation, 3) The Earth being 6,000 years old, and 4) If we think that we can have a revolution soon.

To a liberal like myself (and many people who read but DON’T post on this forum), many of you seem like you’re raving lunatics, hiding in your basements with assault rifles and banana clips while howling at the moon and blacklisting commis.

[/quote]

I can’t have banana clips in NY. (sorry bro had to take a dig at that)./

I do agree sometimes the things I see on website is just to much to even believe that people say things like that.

I did not vote for Obama but I was willing to give him a shot at everything.

Are there things I think are good or might do good? Yes

But then the national health care crap comes up and it is nothing but bullshit.

And now this cap and tax shit flies in and out of the House no problem? Well if someone can pull the stop strap for earth can you because I missed my station and I want to get off.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:

Tell me you think cap and trade is good for America, that you believe it will induce a net increase of even one US job, that it will spawn a burgeoning industry that the profit motive has thus far missed and that you actually believe it’s motivated by concern for the environment. Tell me you believe that while sneering at people who believe in talking snakes. Start there.[/quote]

I’ve been reading about it today. Gonna read a little more before I form an opinion on it. I’ll post on it later on tonight.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
dhickey wrote:

Irish, there is no way you can convince me, not that you’ll try, that there is no truth in what I just said.

You are right, the use of “rational” was not the most appropriate choice. Anything can be rationalized. I should have used logical.

Punching someone in the face that insults you is rational.

If you subsequently get your ass kicked and further insulted, it may not have been logical.

Well I’m sorry if I lose patience on a board full of “libertarians” where every other thread is about 1) How much Obama/Pelosi/Democrat/liberals suck,
[/quote]
but they do suck, and what else would we be discussing on a politics board?

If we created a scale with Capitalist on one end and Socialist on another, which direction are we moving?

I certainly don’t beleive this and don’t participate in these types of threads.

Any fan of history knows that this is not all that uncommon. Why not here? Why not now? Tell me who was more free, colonial americans under british rule or modern day americans. They revolted in response to an equal amount of repression at best.

So would many of the founding fathers to liberals like yourself. maybe you should read some of them.

I don’t have assault rifles and don’t keep my semi-autos in the basement.

quite a few of these but larger clips are easier to deal with at the range. plus and AK or AR just doesn’t look right without a 20 or 30 round clip.

Sarah Palin and Ron Paul are not even close to the same. Shows what you are capable of absorbing when it comes to actual political thought.

The fact is dipshits like you casting uneducated votes takes almost half my income away from my family. What a fucking lunatic I must be not to trust that gem of a system.

Neither do I, but I hardly see what this has to do with most of the threads on here. Especially the ones you seem most active in.

I could give two shits about your swearing. It’s the lack of any valuable insight or analysis between the curse words that make you look like an idiot. No skin off my ass.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

Tell me you think cap and trade is good for America, that you believe it will induce a net increase of even one US job, that it will spawn a burgeoning industry that the profit motive has thus far missed and that you actually believe it’s motivated by concern for the environment. Tell me you believe that while sneering at people who believe in talking snakes. Start there.

I’ve been reading about it today. Gonna read a little more before I form an opinion on it. I’ll post on it later on tonight.[/quote]

Take a look at diverse viewpoints. Buffet says this is a disaster, Stein called it criminal. Take a look at the WSJ. Nobody is without a point of view, but at least hear them all. The EPA has as of March squelched major research submitted by one of their own that contradicts the alleged mission of this bill. This is just… fact.

Look, I am not out to win an argument. When I tuck my daughter in at night and look in her face I am afraid for her future. I’m afraid for YOUR future man. For me this is not about my side being right and Barack Obama is almost incidental. It’s about an insidious ideology that eats every society where it comes into ascendancy.

I’d be the first one with my hand out if you were ever to come to the conclusion that those wingnuts may not be quite as nutty as I thought.

[quote]dhickey wrote:

Well I’m sorry if I lose patience on a board full of “libertarians” where every other thread is about 1) How much Obama/Pelosi/Democrat/liberals suck,

but they do suck, and what else would we be discussing on a politics board?
[/quote]

My point is that in the Blowjob Barn, there is not an even distribution- it’s all extreme right wingers.

It’s moving back to the center after eight years of being on the right. I’m fine with that.

Not saying you did. But there are quite a few who do.

Free from what, exactly?

And there is an unfathomable difference in the nature of American society in the 1760s to the one we have now.

I’ve probably read more of them than you have.

Bad mix of people. Fair enough- shouldn’t have used that one. But my point was you are, again, the extreme right wing.

My vote is plenty educated. I’m in favor of a progressive income tax, and I’m in favor of a lot of thing the government does with the money. Not all of it, but that’s politics. That’s what happens. Anytime people run the government, you will have waste. You’re not going to have a tiny government for this nation, ever. Get over it.

If you don’t read those threads, how would you know? I’ve been very, very active on the jesusfreak threads.

I feel the same way about every post you make.

Slainte.