More info you won’t hear from corporate news sources.
http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10066
And not a single fuck was given.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
And not a single fuck was given. [/quote]
Yes and that is a good deal of the point here. If this was front page news-which it should be- a majority of fuck would be given.
Any other sources other than your pet web site?
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Any other sources other than your pet web site?[/quote]
And what sources do you cite that positively assert with evidence that austerity works? Despite the current evidence it doesn’t.
My pet website has information from the PERI Institute refuting the main study which is the basis for austerity economics. But I suppose since Rush Limbaugh hasn’t told you so it must not be true.
And my pet website has called the professors who have authored the paper extolling the virtues of austerity to come on and debate the authors who have refuted their arguments. We shall see…
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Any other sources other than your pet web site?[/quote]
And what sources do you cite that positively assert with evidence that austerity works? Despite the current evidence it doesn’t.
My pet website has information from the PERI Institute refuting the main study which is the basis for austerity economics. But I suppose since Rush Limbaugh hasn’t told you so it must not be true.
And my pet website has called the professors who have authored the paper extolling the virtues of austerity to come on and debate the authors who have refuted their arguments. We shall see…
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First off fuck Limbaugh.
Second…fuck FOX News and MSNBC
Third…fuck Oberman, Maddow and O’Riley.
Do you get paid by FakeNews to send clicks their way? Serious question.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Any other sources other than your pet web site?[/quote]
And what sources do you cite that positively assert with evidence that austerity works? Despite the current evidence it doesn’t.
My pet website has information from the PERI Institute refuting the main study which is the basis for austerity economics. But I suppose since Rush Limbaugh hasn’t told you so it must not be true.
And my pet website has called the professors who have authored the paper extolling the virtues of austerity to come on and debate the authors who have refuted their arguments. We shall see…
[/quote]
First off fuck Limbaugh.
Second…fuck FOX News and MSNBC
Third…fuck Oberman, Maddow and O’Riley.
Do you get paid by FakeNews to send clicks their way? Serious question.
No
Well at least we agree on LImbaugh, O’Riley and Faux news.
Fake news? Where do you get your information from? Once agin.
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Any other sources other than your pet web site?[/quote]
And what sources do you cite that positively assert with evidence that austerity works? Despite the current evidence it doesn’t.
My pet website has information from the PERI Institute refuting the main study which is the basis for austerity economics. But I suppose since Rush Limbaugh hasn’t told you so it must not be true.
And my pet website has called the professors who have authored the paper extolling the virtues of austerity to come on and debate the authors who have refuted their arguments. We shall see…
[/quote]
First off fuck Limbaugh.
Second…fuck FOX News and MSNBC
Third…fuck Oberman, Maddow and O’Riley.
Do you get paid by FakeNews to send clicks their way? Serious question.
No
Well at least we agree on LImbaugh, O’Riley and Faux news.
Fake news? Where do you get your information from? Once agin.
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Oh I forgot Obama
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[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
has information from the PERI Institute [/quote]
Let me see:
A group of leftests, associated with a lefty university, funded by a progressive dominated state aggregated a bunch of data that supports their lefty confirmation bias?
color me suprised.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
has information from the PERI Institute [/quote]
Let me see:
A group of leftests, associated with a lefty university, funded by a progressive dominated state aggregated a bunch of data that supports their lefty confirmation bias?
color me suprised. [/quote]
Yes now even the authors have admitted their mistake, but still stick by their data. Goes to show what happens when you are married to an ideology.
Of course you blame it on leftist. It can’t be that the evidence supports their economic conclusions. For that to be true would begin to crumble the facade of neo-liberal economics and trickle down bullshit.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
For that to be true would begin to crumble the facade of neo-liberal economics and trickle down bullshit.
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lol yes, America has seen wealth and standard of living explosions over the last 30 years pretty much unrivaled throughout human history, but it is all bullshit.
We we know it is bullshit because the people of Cuba and North Korea have done so much for the advancement of mankind in the same time period.
Laughable.
And secondly, I didn’t blame anything on leftest, I was describing your “source” in accurate terms.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
For that to be true would begin to crumble the facade of neo-liberal economics and trickle down bullshit.
[/quote]
We we know it is bullshit because the people of Cuba and North Korea have done so much for the advancement of mankind in the same time period.
[/quote]
Really don’t see any possible comeback to this.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
For that to be true would begin to crumble the facade of neo-liberal economics and trickle down bullshit.
[/quote]
lol yes, America has seen wealth and standard of living explosions over the last 30 years pretty much unrivaled throughout human history, but it is all bullshit.
We we know it is bullshit because the people of Cuba and North Korea have done so much for the advancement of mankind in the same time period.
Laughable. [/quote]
When you write crap like this it makes me wonder if you always live in your land of make believe. The living explosion of the last 30 years that you describe is only true for the upper crust of this countries top elite. Wages have stagnated and in some places declined in the face of increased production. So once again you have no idea what is going on in the real world.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
And secondly, I didn’t blame anything on leftest, I was describing your “source” in accurate terms. [/quote]
Describe it however you like but it’s the truth that matters…
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
The living explosion of the last 30 years that you describe is only true for the upper crust of this countries top elite.[/quote]
False. See Whittle’s breakdown. You can find the Heritage Study here and around this link: http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2011/09/understanding-poverty-in-the-united-states-surprising-facts-about-americas-poor
And if your lefty PERI is considered a real source so is the righty Heritage.
Source? (Please provide one that shows people staying in the same wage range too, not one that shows the wage ranges stagnant, because stagnant ranges are irrelevant if there is mobility between ranges. Thanks)
Lets see, things my parents (Lower middle class, I make more now than both of them combined have any year they have been together) have now they didn’t when I was 3:
House
Second car (Both less than 4 years old)
HDTV
Dish Network
TVIO
High speed internet
2 desktop computers
2 laptop computers
a Wii
Fax Machine
Scanner
Printer
International Travel (we went camping for vacations, lol)
Money saved for retirement
Custom golf clubs, 3 sets
These pots and pans my mom won’t let anyone touch but her
Country Club Membership
Cellphones
I could go on…
Things I see in poor neighborhoods I didn’t see 20 years ago:
3k worth of rims on cars without rust holes
$1,500 worth of speakers and stereo equipment in these cars
Air conditioners in two or more windows all summer
50" HDTV’s
Blueray players
DVD’s
Laptops
computers
Internet
iPhones
iPads
iPods
Xbox’s
Playstations
Do you really need a run down of the technological advancements that have come about, medical, all that too?
[quote]So once again you have no idea what is going on in the real world.
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So once again you forget you are posting on the internet and not talking into a mirror
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
For that to be true would begin to crumble the facade of neo-liberal economics and trickle down bullshit.
[/quote]
We we know it is bullshit because the people of Cuba and North Korea have done so much for the advancement of mankind in the same time period.
[/quote]
Really don’t see any possible comeback to this.
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He can’t even come close to refuting the rest of my statement, let alone commenting on that one.
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
And secondly, I didn’t blame anything on leftest, I was describing your “source” in accurate terms. [/quote]
Describe it however you like but it’s the truth that matters…[/quote]
So you agree my assessment was the truth then?
Good.
Back to the other point.
Why do you outline the things that come standard in 18k compact car, that came standard in a comparable priced vehicle in 1980 for us?
Then let’s discuss the utility of the car phone in 1990 verse the utility of the iPhone, which many, many “poor” people in America have.
Point being your only point is personal attacks and some talking point about stagnant wages… You are so far behind here, I’ve already started the next race and you haven’t left the starting blocks of the last one…
Nu Uhhhh!!! but this is where Zep learned to read.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Zeppelin795 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
And secondly, I didn’t blame anything on leftest, I was describing your “source” in accurate terms. [/quote]
Describe it however you like but it’s the truth that matters…[/quote]
So you agree my assessment was the truth then?
Good.
Back to the other point.
Why do you outline the things that come standard in 18k compact car, that came standard in a comparable priced vehicle in 1980 for us?
Then let’s discuss the utility of the car phone in 1990 verse the utility of the iPhone, which many, many “poor” people in America have.
Point being your only point is personal attacks and some talking point about stagnant wages… You are so far behind here, I’ve already started the next race and you haven’t left the starting blocks of the last one…[/quote]
What is important to you is who’s side is winning. Truth doesn’t matter.
Here is a link albeit not a video with information on who has received the majority of gains since 2009 Yes, Virginia, the Rich Continue to Get Richer: the Top 1% Got 121% of Income Gains Since 2009 | naked capitalism
It matters not to my point if the poor have refrigerators it is about who has made the majority of the gains.
The internet was developed in the public sector ignoramus!
You are nothing more than a broken record of propaganda who ignorance is on constant display here. You cite the internet as evidence of improved life and you aren’t even aware that it was developed in the public sector.
The Heritage Foundation is mostly funded by corporations who have a vested interest in getting the conclusions that increase their profits whether true or not.
Truth matters not who’s side is winning!