[quote]jsbrook wrote:
What are you talking about?[/quote]
Are you serious? Europe has been accepting immigrants from Islamic countries for many years now. They all have huge families, while liberal Europeans use birth control. This will cause a demographic shift in Western European countries, to where they will have Muslim majorities. This is not even counting the white Euros who convert to Islam.
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
What are you talking about?
Are you serious? Europe has been accepting immigrants from Islamic countries for many years now. They all have huge families, while liberal Europeans use birth control. This will cause a demographic shift in Western European countries, to where they will have Muslim majorities. This is not even counting the white Euros who convert to Islam.
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No, I understand what your saying. It’s just a strage post, though. I guess some of it was an attempt at sarcasm. But, honestly, who are these ‘liberal Europeans’? Any non-Muslims? And what the gays have to do with anything? Seems quite a silly, irrelevant thing to bring up in this context.
More to the substantive point, an increase in Muslim population in Europe, undoubtedly happening, doesn’t automatically translate to the extremist, fundamentalist philosophy of groups like Hamas that is so scary and such a threat.
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Palestine? Lebanon? London? Nope: Fort Lauderdale, FL.
Also heard, “You need a big oven!” No antisemitism there. I’m sure they’re ignoring Surah 3:112 and the other Qur’anic antisemitic motifs.
Boy am I glad the protesters featured here are only a Tiny Minority of Extremists!
Actually the Old Testament is full of Jewish acts of ethnic cleansing against non-Jews. They are also full of themselves with all of their bullshit about being “God’s chosen people.” Chosen people my ass. Their whole religion was plagiarized and stolen from the civilized peoples that they mingled with while they were wandering throughout the people who actually created civilizations…
They also racially block vote too. Democratic for that matter too.
I like a lot of your posts, but find it annoying how you have this love affair with Israel…
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Who cares even if that’s true (though the ‘plagiarizing’ from other ‘civilized’ people is highly dubious and unsupported by evidence). Regardless, it interests me not what a religion/culture/ethnicity (whatever you want to call it) did 6000 years ago. What’s relevant is how Israelis and Hamas terrorists behave today.
Racial bloc voting among Jews in America, a practice used by many other ethnic and religious minorities by the way, is also irrelevant to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
As far as being the ‘chosen people’ what religion doesn’t consider themselves the chosen people? Christians certainly do. At least certain deonominations and are convinced everyone else is going to hell. Jews are no better. And no worse. At least Jews (and Christians for that matter) aren’t on a mission to obliterate the ‘infidel’ from the earth.
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
What are you talking about?
Are you serious? Europe has been accepting immigrants from Islamic countries for many years now. They all have huge families, while liberal Europeans use birth control. This will cause a demographic shift in Western European countries, to where they will have Muslim majorities. This is not even counting the white Euros who convert to Islam.
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Yes, and have you actually met these people?
They would rather lose a limb than to go back to their parents countries, especially the women.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
No, I understand what your saying. It’s just a strage post, though. I guess some of it was an attempt at sarcasm. But, honestly, who are these ‘liberal Europeans’? Any non-Muslims? And what the gays have to do with anything? Seems quite a silly, irrelevant thing to bring up in this context.
More to the substantive point, an increase in Muslim population in Europe, undoubtedly happening, doesn’t automatically translate to the extremist, fundamentalist philosophy of groups like Hamas that is so scary and such a threat. [/quote]
Who are liberal Europeans? You can either take a trip there like I did and meet some of them, or research some of the political parties that are popular there and see for yourself.
As for gays… They are much more accepted over there than they are in America. You see guys holding hands down the street, making out in bars in shit,etc. If the Muslims ever took over there, I doubt that they would have much of a future there.
As for the Muslims there… many of them are very militant especially in England and France. Many of them are openly preaching for an Islamic Europe. Saudi Arabia is also pumping in millions of dollars to build mosques in Albania,etc. They see Europe as ripe for the picking in general.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Who cares even if that’s true (though the ‘plagiarizing’ from other ‘civilized’ people is highly dubious and unsupported by evidence).[/quote]
Actually Voltaire was writing about this hundreds of years ago. One of his lesser known works was a series of books about world history, besides his famous philosophical dictionary. Sir James Frazer also details it among other thinkers/writers.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Regardless, it interests me not what a religion/culture/ethnicity (whatever you want to call it) did 6000 years ago. What’s relevant is how Israelis and Hamas terrorists behave today. [/quote]
He was quoting something from the Koran and I pointed out that the Jews themselves detailed their own ethnic cleaning and conquest of lands in the Old Testament, which most people have never even read to begin with. And it is relevant because the Jews use the historical authenticity of the Old Testament to have Israel in the first place.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
Racial bloc voting among Jews in America, a practice used by many other ethnic and religious minorities by the way, is also irrelevant to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.[/quote]
Who else votes in blocs racially in America besides blacks and Jews? Whites don’t. Asians don’t.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
As far as being the ‘chosen people’ what religion doesn’t consider themselves the chosen people? Christians certainly do. At least certain deonominations and are convinced everyone else is going to hell. Jews are no better. And no worse. At least Jews (and Christians for that matter) aren’t on a mission to obliterate the ‘infidel’ from the earth.[/quote]
The difference is that the Jews have both an ethnicity based religion whereas Islam and Christianity are both universalist religions that seek converts.
[quote]orion wrote:
Yes, and have you actually met these people?
They would rather lose a limb than to go back to their parents countries, especially the women.
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I have been to Europe. I saw that the white people barely had any kids, while every Muslim women with the head garb and all usually have 4,5,6 of them. I also worked for a European firm once and am quite familiar with the European attitudes towards birth control in general. It’s not hard to see what Europe will look like in 50 years.
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Palestine? Lebanon? London? Nope: Fort Lauderdale, FL.
Also heard, “You need a big oven!” No antisemitism there. I’m sure they’re ignoring Surah 3:112 and the other Qur’anic antisemitic motifs.
Boy am I glad the protesters featured here are only a Tiny Minority of Extremists!
Actually the Old Testament is full of Jewish acts of ethnic cleansing against non-Jews. They are also full of themselves with all of their bullshit about being “God’s chosen people.” Chosen people my ass.
Their whole religion was plagiarized and stolen from the civilized peoples that they mingled with while they were wandering throughout the people who actually created civilizations…
They also racially block vote too. Democratic for that matter too.
I like a lot of your posts, but find it annoying how you have this love affair with Israel…
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First of all, I have no love affair with Israel. I’m even willing to discuss some of the things Israel has done to us with the ‘patriot’ set around here if I could get you all to drop the moral equivalence b/w Israeli Jews and Arabs and at least show up on some of the threads to express a little moral outrage against Islamic jihad.
Instead, all we get from the ‘patriot’ crowd is more whining about central banking, gold, the Patriot Act, AIPAC, and moral equivalences between religions. The rest of us non-patriots are expected to believe that if we just dropped religion, central banking, and threw Israel under the bus, everything would be great and all the unpleasantness with the Islamic world would just blow over.
Secondly, this whole load of crap about the Old Testament being plagiarized is exactly that: a load of crap. It’s been answered by so many Christian scholars it’s not even worth discussing with you. None of your types ever bother to read any our rebuttals, so I can discuss this with you until I’m blue in the face and make no progress. And I’m sure Voltaire had no small part to play in sapping the civilizational marrow from France and other European countries who bought into his ethic of self-congratulation, narcissism, and selfishness.
Christians have kids. The Voltaire types don’t. They’re too busy telling each other how smart they are rather than sacrificing their time, money, and energy to raise a family and carry on civilization. Look at France now. It shouldn’t be any real surprise why it’s in demographic meltdown vs. the savages it’s imported from north Africa. France even provides enormous subsidies to couples who have kids, and it still has had no effect amongst the French population. Same thing in Germany.
And as far as the ‘civilized’ peoples the 12 tribes of Israel ethnically cleansed from Canaan are concerned: I don’t find burning your newborns alive on statues of Molech and other detestable Canaanite practicess to be too civilized. Call me crazy. You know your ancient Near Eastern history, don’t you?
[quote]London Runner wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Do you recall, last month, the jihad terror attacks against the Hindus and Westerners in Bombay?
Well guess what, they Hindus along with the Sikhs have been fighting the muslims just as long as the Jews have but it never makes International news (Apart from the incident last month). [/quote]
You are not even close to being accurate with your history. The Hindus and Sikhs come from India. The Jihad took centuries to reach that far. The first Sikh guru (Nanak Dev) wasn’t born until 1469, that is 900 years after Mohammad.
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Even I’ve seen first hand, muslim youths attempt to disrupt and cause havoc at various religious functions, trying to attack worshippers at Hindu temples and desecrate holy statues, throw paint at crusifixs outside churches, and that doesn’t make the news either.
Like you said, everyone with Islamic borders has some sort of problem with extremists, but this subject doesn’t require multiple threads. But this particular situation just gets blown out of proportion every single time.
LR [/quote]
This particular situation has almost caused World War three. But you are right about the multiple threads it is making all these discussions very disjointed and impossible to follow without a lot of effort.
[quote]phil_leotardo wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
No, I understand what your saying. It’s just a strage post, though. I guess some of it was an attempt at sarcasm. But, honestly, who are these ‘liberal Europeans’? Any non-Muslims? And what the gays have to do with anything? Seems quite a silly, irrelevant thing to bring up in this context.
More to the substantive point, an increase in Muslim population in Europe, undoubtedly happening, doesn’t automatically translate to the extremist, fundamentalist philosophy of groups like Hamas that is so scary and such a threat.
Who are liberal Europeans? You can either take a trip there like I did and meet some of them, or research some of the political parties that are popular there and see for yourself.
As for gays… They are much more accepted over there than they are in America. You see guys holding hands down the street, making out in bars in shit,etc. If the Muslims ever took over there, I doubt that they would have much of a future there.
As for the Muslims there… many of them are very militant especially in England and France. Many of them are openly preaching for an Islamic Europe. Saudi Arabia is also pumping in millions of dollars to build mosques in Albania,etc. They see Europe as ripe for the picking in general.
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Not all of Europe is liberal. Their politics and politicians span a broad spectrum.
If (extremist) Muslism actuallly ‘took over’ Europe, the effect would go well beyond the gays. No one in Europe would have much of a future there.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
You are not even close to being accurate with your history. The Hindus and Sikhs come from India. The Jihad took centuries to reach that far. The first Sikh guru (Nanak Dev) wasn’t born until 1469, that is 900 years after Mohammad.[/quote]
Why don’t you get me a date for when the first Hindus walked the earth.
LR
[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Give me a fucking break.
I hope you’re being sarcastic. The “protesters” have turned violent, Jews are being singled out and shot!
How many articles must I send you? Do the articles have to be from democracynow, or adbusters, or some shit?!
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If it isn’t on moveon.org…It doesn’t exist.
[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Give me a fucking break.
I hope you’re being sarcastic. The “protesters” have turned violent, Jews are being singled out and shot!
How many articles must I send you? Do the articles have to be from democracynow, or adbusters, or some shit?!
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I hope YOU’RE being sarcastic. Just because two Jewish men happened to be shot somewhere on planet Earth doesn’t mean it has anything at all to do with what’s going on in Israel. Way to jump the gun on a story with little to no details.
[quote]pat wrote:
archiewhittaker wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Give me a fucking break.
I hope you’re being sarcastic. The “protesters” have turned violent, Jews are being singled out and shot!
How many articles must I send you? Do the articles have to be from democracynow, or adbusters, or some shit?!
If it isn’t on moveon.org…It doesn’t exist.[/quote]
Yeah, because that’s what I said. I said the story was an entirely fabricated and fictional incident… Right.
It’s not that it didn’t happen, it’s that people are purely speculating on the motivation behind it. Keep up.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
archiewhittaker wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Palestine? Lebanon? London? Nope: Fort Lauderdale, FL.
Also heard, “You need a big oven!” No antisemitism there. I’m sure they’re ignoring Surah 3:112 and the other Qur’anic antisemitic motifs.
Boy am I glad the protesters featured here are only a Tiny Minority of Extremists!
Let them say what they want. Freedom of speech right?
This makes me happy that their monkey asses are dying in Gaza.
I think you’re under the illusion that this conflict will confine itself to Palestine:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024168.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024167.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024163.php
Here they are attacking the Jews in Belgium:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024162.php
Excellent unbiased sources.
What, you’re incapable of following the links and watching the various videos and reading the links at the site? You can’t look at photographs? The photographs and videos are ‘biased’?
LOL.
The article title for the photos of a protest against the Palestinian bombing is “Leftists, Muslim American Society at rally calling for destruction of Israel”.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Or this caption for a photo: “From sea to sea, one day Palestine will be free” – i.e., Israel won’t exist
Give me a fucking break.
Well, we’re making some progress: I got you to follow one of the links.
I love how the liberal set around here is spring-loaded with the, “Shaaa - as if!” ‘argument.’ Reality simply isn’t there for you is it? Do you ever step out into traffic and just tell yourself that cars aren’t oncoming? I bet you believe the guy in the third link was calling for the death of fructose-based beverages as well.
LOL.
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Reality isn’t here for me? This coming from a guy who believes every muslim is part of a worldwide conspiracy to infiltrate governments worldwide to conquer the planet and control the infidels.
Riiiiiiight. Do you ever get fresh air?
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
archiewhittaker wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Palestine? Lebanon? London? Nope: Fort Lauderdale, FL.
Also heard, “You need a big oven!” No antisemitism there. I’m sure they’re ignoring Surah 3:112 and the other Qur’anic antisemitic motifs.
Boy am I glad the protesters featured here are only a Tiny Minority of Extremists!
Let them say what they want. Freedom of speech right?
This makes me happy that their monkey asses are dying in Gaza.
I think you’re under the illusion that this conflict will confine itself to Palestine:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024168.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024167.php
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024163.php
Here they are attacking the Jews in Belgium:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024162.php
Excellent unbiased sources.
What, you’re incapable of following the links and watching the various videos and reading the links at the site? You can’t look at photographs? The photographs and videos are ‘biased’?
LOL.
The article title for the photos of a protest against the Palestinian bombing is “Leftists, Muslim American Society at rally calling for destruction of Israel”.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Or this caption for a photo: “From sea to sea, one day Palestine will be free” – i.e., Israel won’t exist
Give me a fucking break.
Well, we’re making some progress: I got you to follow one of the links.
I love how the liberal set around here is spring-loaded with the, “Shaaa - as if!” ‘argument.’ Reality simply isn’t there for you is it? Do you ever step out into traffic and just tell yourself that cars aren’t oncoming? I bet you believe the guy in the third link was calling for the death of fructose-based beverages as well.
LOL.
Reality isn’t here for me? This coming from a guy who believes every muslim is part of a worldwide conspiracy to infiltrate governments worldwide to conquer the planet and control the infidels.
Riiiiiiight. Do you ever get fresh air?[/quote]
Thanks for making my point for me.
That you suffer from paranoid delusions?
You’re welcome.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
That you suffer from paranoid delusions?
You’re welcome.[/quote]
This is starting to resemble my recent conversations with GL. Why don’t you start calling me a racist, too? That’ll fix me.
[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
That you suffer from paranoid delusions?
You’re welcome.
This is starting to resemble my recent conversations with GL. Why don’t you start calling me a racist, too? That’ll fix me. [/quote]
I don’t know who GL is, but why don’t you start calling me anti-semetic? I’ve already seen you drop it numerous times the past week. Obviously disagreeing with Israel’s policy or actions equates into a deep rooted hatred and prejudice towards everything Jewish.
[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
That you suffer from paranoid delusions?
You’re welcome.
This is starting to resemble my recent conversations with GL. Why don’t you start calling me a racist, too? That’ll fix me.
I don’t know who GL is, but why don’t you start calling me anti-semetic? I’ve already seen you drop it numerous times the past week. Obviously disagreeing with Israel’s policy or actions equates into a deep rooted hatred and prejudice towards everything Jewish.[/quote]
Actually, I did no such thing. I pointed out that antisemitism is inherent to Islam, and Qur’anic antisemitism is quoted in the pre-amble to Hamas’ charter, and that we ought to recognize the “conflict” with Israel as yet another example of Islamic antisemitism, because that’s what it is. Thunderbolt23 even provided the link to Hamas’ charter.
It’s not my fault you can’t read.