Notre Dame Sells Out

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
I think this is good. The reason for it is that the student body sent around a petition in protest. If he comes, there will be protests and that is good. I want to see him in a hostile environment which is not favorable to him. That’s exactly what he is going to get.

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

LOL. It is not. Did FauxNews tell you that?

The group supposedly leading the charge is the local insane abortion opponents. That’s got, lets say, at the most, 30 people. Hell, double it, there’s 60.

That’s it. The rest is coming from people outside of Notre Dame.

Hostile? Sorry boss. The George W. days of angry, seething crowds greeting the President are over, at least for now.[/quote]

Only if he continues to hide among sympathetic crowds.

If he came out to speak where I live, he’d be damn lucky if all he got was an “angry, seething” crowd.

Notice that he’s not venturing into fly-over America. He’s not stupid; he knows that much of the people out here absolutely hate him and angry mob would be the best outcome he could hope for.

[quote]pat wrote:

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

[/quote]

They are a minority if the word “Christian” means anything more than vague self-identification. If you’re going by actual beliefs and religious practice, Christians are a minority and becoming smaller by the day. Google “Moralistic Therapeutic Deism.”

[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
pat wrote:

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

They are a minority if the word “Christian” means anything more than vague self-identification. If you’re going by actual beliefs and religious practice, Christians are a minority and becoming smaller by the day. Google “Moralistic Therapeutic Deism.”[/quote]

Google “Christian Population of the United States”…Christians no where near a minority. You cannot claim to know the religious practices of every individual Christian in the U.S. so you cannot say whether they are in “name” or not. You are just guessing, or maybe hoping. But you are wrong.

etc…

[quote]pat wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
I think this is good. The reason for it is that the student body sent around a petition in protest. If he comes, there will be protests and that is good. I want to see him in a hostile environment which is not favorable to him. That’s exactly what he is going to get.

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

LOL. It is not. Did FauxNews tell you that?

The group supposedly leading the charge is the local insane abortion opponents. That’s got, lets say, at the most, 30 people. Hell, double it, there’s 60.

That’s it. The rest is coming from people outside of Notre Dame.

Hostile? Sorry boss. The George W. days of angry, seething crowds greeting the President are over, at least for now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/25/2009-03-25_notre_dame_students_protest_as_prochoice.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/religion/chi-obama-notre-damemar25,0,4784480.story

http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/03/27/news/nation/doc49cc62f761b8d726845038.txt

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15472

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/143769.php

Research be fore ye speaketh, lest ye look like a complete idiot.

[/quote]

Bullshit- you’re the fuck who looks like a complete idiot. I checked three of the articles you posted and many more, and there’s the ant-abortion nutjobs getting ready. That’s it.

There are no mass protests by students against him or abortion- and that bullshit petition is signed by people. Notice it says “people”. Not “students”, “attendees”, or “freshman”. People. That means that it’s all people from all over country, and any douche can go on there and sign.

Know what that means to me? That it ain’t shit. And it certainly is apparent that the student-body at Notre Dame (who this is really supposed to be about) don’t really care all that much.

So check your shit out before you post it, cause you ain’t right.

Again, whackjob religulousness at it’s best.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
I think this is good. The reason for it is that the student body sent around a petition in protest. If he comes, there will be protests and that is good. I want to see him in a hostile environment which is not favorable to him. That’s exactly what he is going to get.

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

LOL. It is not. Did FauxNews tell you that?

The group supposedly leading the charge is the local insane abortion opponents. That’s got, lets say, at the most, 30 people. Hell, double it, there’s 60.

That’s it. The rest is coming from people outside of Notre Dame.

Hostile? Sorry boss. The George W. days of angry, seething crowds greeting the President are over, at least for now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/25/2009-03-25_notre_dame_students_protest_as_prochoice.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/religion/chi-obama-notre-damemar25,0,4784480.story

http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/03/27/news/nation/doc49cc62f761b8d726845038.txt

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15472

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/143769.php

Research be fore ye speaketh, lest ye look like a complete idiot.

Bullshit- you’re the fuck who looks like a complete idiot. I checked three of the articles you posted and many more, and there’s the ant-abortion nutjobs getting ready. That’s it.

There are no mass protests by students against him or abortion- and that bullshit petition is signed by people. Notice it says “people”. Not “students”, “attendees”, or “freshman”. People. That means that it’s all people from all over country, and any douche can go on there and sign.

Know what that means to me? That it ain’t shit. And it certainly is apparent that the student-body at Notre Dame (who this is really supposed to be about) don’t really care all that much.

So check your shit out before you post it, cause you ain’t right.

Again, whackjob religulousness at it’s best. [/quote]

the days of moral majority sized protests are over.

this protest is just another vain attempt that shows they’re getting weaker or lazier. Even their own congregations got tired of protesting rock music and grand theft auto.

America is full of materialistic, divorcing shmoozes. If Christians are a majority, they really need to pay attention to their own religion.

All they’ve got left is protesting obama, threatening doctors, and protesting soldier funerals while calling them gay.

Cardinal Di Nardo’s take.

“In light of what I wrote above, I want to venture a comment on the recently released statement of the University of Notre Dame; that statement noted that the President has accepted an invitation to give the Commencement Address this year as well as receive an Honorary Law Degree. The news release then outlines the fact that a number of other Presidents have given the Commencement Address at Notre Dame and have thus highlighted, in effect, the university?s importance. I find the invitation very disappointing. Though I can understand the desire by a university to have the prestige of a commencement address by the President of the United States, the fundamental moral issue of the inestimable worth of the human person from conception to natural death is a principle that soaks all our lives as Catholics, and all our efforts at formation, especially education at Catholic places of higher learning. The President has made clear by word and deed that he will promote abortion and will remove even those limited sanctions that control this act of violence against the human person. The Bishops of the United States published a document a few years ago asking all Catholic universities to avoid giving a platform or an award to those politicians or public figures who promote the taking of unborn human life. Even given the dignity of Office of the President, this offer is still providing a platform and an award for a public figure who has been candid on his pro-abortion views. Particularly troubling is the Honorary Law Degree since it recognizes that the person is a ?Teacher,? in this case of the Law. I think that this decision requires charitable but vigorous critique.”

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
I think this is good. The reason for it is that the student body sent around a petition in protest. If he comes, there will be protests and that is good. I want to see him in a hostile environment which is not favorable to him. That’s exactly what he is going to get.

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

LOL. It is not. Did FauxNews tell you that?

The group supposedly leading the charge is the local insane abortion opponents. That’s got, lets say, at the most, 30 people. Hell, double it, there’s 60.

That’s it. The rest is coming from people outside of Notre Dame.

Hostile? Sorry boss. The George W. days of angry, seething crowds greeting the President are over, at least for now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/25/2009-03-25_notre_dame_students_protest_as_prochoice.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/religion/chi-obama-notre-damemar25,0,4784480.story

http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/03/27/news/nation/doc49cc62f761b8d726845038.txt

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15472

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/143769.php

Research be fore ye speaketh, lest ye look like a complete idiot.

Bullshit- you’re the fuck who looks like a complete idiot. I checked three of the articles you posted and many more, and there’s the ant-abortion nutjobs getting ready. That’s it.

There are no mass protests by students against him or abortion- and that bullshit petition is signed by people. Notice it says “people”. Not “students”, “attendees”, or “freshman”. People. That means that it’s all people from all over country, and any douche can go on there and sign.

Know what that means to me? That it ain’t shit. And it certainly is apparent that the student-body at Notre Dame (who this is really supposed to be about) don’t really care all that much.

So check your shit out before you post it, cause you ain’t right.

Again, whackjob religulousness at it’s best. [/quote]

You missed this one. 11 student bodies don’t count as students? What are they aliens posing as students? Or athiests posing as Catholics?

[i]"Notre Dame Students Denounce Obama Speech

By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
Friday, March 27, 2009
A coalition of 11 student organizations at the University of Notre Dame has publicly criticized its school for its plan to give President Barack Obama an honorary law degree at this year?s commencement.

The student response follows vocal outrage among Notre Dame alumni over the decision to honor Mr. Obama. Opponents of the university?s decision have pointed to Mr. Obama?s pro-abortion record as evidence that he should not be honored at the premier Catholic university in the country.

?Our objection is not a matter of political partisanship, but of President Obama?s hostility to the Catholic Church?s teachings on the sanctity of human life at its earliest stages? said the student coalition in a statement. ?His recent dedication of federal funds to overseas abortions and to embryonic stem cell research will directly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent human beings. We cannot sit by idly while the university honors someone who believes that an entire class of human beings is undeserving of the most basic of all legal rights, the right to live.?

The university?s decision to honor Mr. Obama runs counter to instruction from the U.S. Catholic bishops, who said in 2004 politicians who oppose Catholic moral teaching should not be honored by Catholic institutions.

?It is a great irony that the university has chosen to award President Obama an honorary law degree,? said the student coalition. ?As the oldest Catholic law school in the country, the Notre Dame Law School states that its mission is ?to facilitate greater understanding of and commitment to the relationship between law and social justice.

?The social justice issue of our day is the deliberate, legal attack on the most vulnerable members of society, the unborn. To award a Notre Dame law degree to a lawyer and politician who has used the law to deny equality to the unborn diminishes the value of the degree itself.?

The coalition also said many seniors are considering not attending their graduation because of the honors being given to Mr. Obama.

The students have begun a campaign of protest against Fr. John Jenkins, the president of Notre Dame. Their participation in a national campaign that will mail red envelopes to the White House has been changed to send the letters to Fr. Jenkins.

?This envelope represents one child who died because of an abortion,? read the envelopes. ?It is empty because the life that was taken is now unable to be a part of our world. This envelope was going to be sent to President Obama on March 31. However, as he is scheduled to receive an Honorary Doctorate of Laws Degree from Notre Dame on May 17, we ask that you deliver it to him on our behalf at that time.?

As of Thursday afternoon, more than 166,000 petitioners had sent letters of protest to Fr. Jenkins via a Web site hosted by the Cardinal Newman Society.

The coalition is composed of Notre Dame Right to Life, The Irish Rover student newspaper, Notre Dame College Republicans, The University of Notre Dame Anscombe Society, Notre Dame Identity Project, Militia of the Immaculata, Children of Mary, Orestes Brownson Council, and the Right to Life, Thomas More Society and Federalist Society of the Notre Dame Law School.[/i]

BTW, I didn’t they were organizing protests, I said there will be protests. And there will.

Care to make anything else up?
Notre Dame is more than a football team… And if you hate Catholics that much I suggest you pick another team for your moniker.

The President is not going there to promote abortion, and the fact that he’s invited does not mean the University supports all his views. McInerny’s an idiot.

[quote]pat wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
I think this is good. The reason for it is that the student body sent around a petition in protest. If he comes, there will be protests and that is good. I want to see him in a hostile environment which is not favorable to him. That’s exactly what he is going to get.

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

LOL. It is not. Did FauxNews tell you that?

The group supposedly leading the charge is the local insane abortion opponents. That’s got, lets say, at the most, 30 people. Hell, double it, there’s 60.

That’s it. The rest is coming from people outside of Notre Dame.

Hostile? Sorry boss. The George W. days of angry, seething crowds greeting the President are over, at least for now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/25/2009-03-25_notre_dame_students_protest_as_prochoice.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/religion/chi-obama-notre-damemar25,0,4784480.story

http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/03/27/news/nation/doc49cc62f761b8d726845038.txt

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15472

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/143769.php

Research be fore ye speaketh, lest ye look like a complete idiot.

Bullshit- you’re the fuck who looks like a complete idiot. I checked three of the articles you posted and many more, and there’s the ant-abortion nutjobs getting ready. That’s it.

There are no mass protests by students against him or abortion- and that bullshit petition is signed by people. Notice it says “people”. Not “students”, “attendees”, or “freshman”. People. That means that it’s all people from all over country, and any douche can go on there and sign.

Know what that means to me? That it ain’t shit. And it certainly is apparent that the student-body at Notre Dame (who this is really supposed to be about) don’t really care all that much.

So check your shit out before you post it, cause you ain’t right.

Again, whackjob religulousness at it’s best.

You missed this one. 11 student bodies don’t count as students? What are they aliens posing as students? Or athiests posing as Catholics?

[i]"Notre Dame Students Denounce Obama Speech

By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
Friday, March 27, 2009
A coalition of 11 student organizations at the University of Notre Dame has publicly criticized its school for its plan to give President Barack Obama an honorary law degree at this year?s commencement.

The student response follows vocal outrage among Notre Dame alumni over the decision to honor Mr. Obama. Opponents of the university?s decision have pointed to Mr. Obama?s pro-abortion record as evidence that he should not be honored at the premier Catholic university in the country.

?Our objection is not a matter of political partisanship, but of President Obama?s hostility to the Catholic Church?s teachings on the sanctity of human life at its earliest stages? said the student coalition in a statement. ?His recent dedication of federal funds to overseas abortions and to embryonic stem cell research will directly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent human beings. We cannot sit by idly while the university honors someone who believes that an entire class of human beings is undeserving of the most basic of all legal rights, the right to live.?

The university?s decision to honor Mr. Obama runs counter to instruction from the U.S. Catholic bishops, who said in 2004 politicians who oppose Catholic moral teaching should not be honored by Catholic institutions.

?It is a great irony that the university has chosen to award President Obama an honorary law degree,? said the student coalition. ?As the oldest Catholic law school in the country, the Notre Dame Law School states that its mission is ?to facilitate greater understanding of and commitment to the relationship between law and social justice.

?The social justice issue of our day is the deliberate, legal attack on the most vulnerable members of society, the unborn. To award a Notre Dame law degree to a lawyer and politician who has used the law to deny equality to the unborn diminishes the value of the degree itself.?

The coalition also said many seniors are considering not attending their graduation because of the honors being given to Mr. Obama.

The students have begun a campaign of protest against Fr. John Jenkins, the president of Notre Dame. Their participation in a national campaign that will mail red envelopes to the White House has been changed to send the letters to Fr. Jenkins.

?This envelope represents one child who died because of an abortion,? read the envelopes. ?It is empty because the life that was taken is now unable to be a part of our world. This envelope was going to be sent to President Obama on March 31. However, as he is scheduled to receive an Honorary Doctorate of Laws Degree from Notre Dame on May 17, we ask that you deliver it to him on our behalf at that time.?

As of Thursday afternoon, more than 166,000 petitioners had sent letters of protest to Fr. Jenkins via a Web site hosted by the Cardinal Newman Society.

The coalition is composed of Notre Dame Right to Life, The Irish Rover student newspaper, Notre Dame College Republicans, The University of Notre Dame Anscombe Society, Notre Dame Identity Project, Militia of the Immaculata, Children of Mary, Orestes Brownson Council, and the Right to Life, Thomas More Society and Federalist Society of the Notre Dame Law School.[/i]

BTW, I didn’t they were organizing protests, I said there will be protests. And there will.
[/quote]

Nice. So you found the one periodical, ironically enough written by the church, that makes it sound like the students are enraged.

When of course, the other media sources don’t say that.

Yup. Right.

[quote]
Care to make anything else up?
Notre Dame is more than a football team… And if you hate Catholics that much I suggest you pick another team for your moniker. [/quote]

I suggest you shove it up your ass, because I’ll have whatever fucking monikor I like.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[i]"Notre Dame Students Denounce Obama Speech

By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
Friday, March 27, 2009
A coalition of 11 student organizations at the University of Notre Dame has publicly criticized its school for its plan to give President Barack Obama an honorary law degree at this year?s commencement.

Nice. So you found the one periodical, ironically enough written by the church, that makes it sound like the students are enraged.

When of course, the other media sources don’t say that.

Yup. Right.

Care to make anything else up?
Notre Dame is more than a football team… And if you hate Catholics that much I suggest you pick another team for your moniker.

I suggest you shove it up your ass, because I’ll have whatever fucking monikor I like.

[/quote]

Surely the statement below is either true of false regardless of who wrote it?

You have some anti-Catholic issues (or maybe anti-organized religion?). One thing is clear to me based on what you have written here and that is you have a perception of the Catholic religion which is wrong.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:
I think this is good. The reason for it is that the student body sent around a petition in protest. If he comes, there will be protests and that is good. I want to see him in a hostile environment which is not favorable to him. That’s exactly what he is going to get.

BTW, Chrstians are NOT minorities by any stretch in the U.S. They are by far the majority…

LOL. It is not. Did FauxNews tell you that?

The group supposedly leading the charge is the local insane abortion opponents. That’s got, lets say, at the most, 30 people. Hell, double it, there’s 60.

That’s it. The rest is coming from people outside of Notre Dame.

Hostile? Sorry boss. The George W. days of angry, seething crowds greeting the President are over, at least for now.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/25/2009-03-25_notre_dame_students_protest_as_prochoice.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/religion/chi-obama-notre-damemar25,0,4784480.story

http://thebulletin.us/articles/2009/03/27/news/nation/doc49cc62f761b8d726845038.txt

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=15472

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/143769.php

Research be fore ye speaketh, lest ye look like a complete idiot.

Bullshit- you’re the fuck who looks like a complete idiot. I checked three of the articles you posted and many more, and there’s the ant-abortion nutjobs getting ready. That’s it.

There are no mass protests by students against him or abortion- and that bullshit petition is signed by people. Notice it says “people”. Not “students”, “attendees”, or “freshman”. People. That means that it’s all people from all over country, and any douche can go on there and sign.

Know what that means to me? That it ain’t shit. And it certainly is apparent that the student-body at Notre Dame (who this is really supposed to be about) don’t really care all that much.

So check your shit out before you post it, cause you ain’t right.

Again, whackjob religulousness at it’s best.

You missed this one. 11 student bodies don’t count as students? What are they aliens posing as students? Or athiests posing as Catholics?

[i]"Notre Dame Students Denounce Obama Speech

By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
Friday, March 27, 2009
A coalition of 11 student organizations at the University of Notre Dame has publicly criticized its school for its plan to give President Barack Obama an honorary law degree at this year?s commencement.

The student response follows vocal outrage among Notre Dame alumni over the decision to honor Mr. Obama. Opponents of the university?s decision have pointed to Mr. Obama?s pro-abortion record as evidence that he should not be honored at the premier Catholic university in the country.

?Our objection is not a matter of political partisanship, but of President Obama?s hostility to the Catholic Church?s teachings on the sanctity of human life at its earliest stages? said the student coalition in a statement. ?His recent dedication of federal funds to overseas abortions and to embryonic stem cell research will directly result in the deaths of thousands of innocent human beings. We cannot sit by idly while the university honors someone who believes that an entire class of human beings is undeserving of the most basic of all legal rights, the right to live.?

The university?s decision to honor Mr. Obama runs counter to instruction from the U.S. Catholic bishops, who said in 2004 politicians who oppose Catholic moral teaching should not be honored by Catholic institutions.

?It is a great irony that the university has chosen to award President Obama an honorary law degree,? said the student coalition. ?As the oldest Catholic law school in the country, the Notre Dame Law School states that its mission is ?to facilitate greater understanding of and commitment to the relationship between law and social justice.

?The social justice issue of our day is the deliberate, legal attack on the most vulnerable members of society, the unborn. To award a Notre Dame law degree to a lawyer and politician who has used the law to deny equality to the unborn diminishes the value of the degree itself.?

The coalition also said many seniors are considering not attending their graduation because of the honors being given to Mr. Obama.

The students have begun a campaign of protest against Fr. John Jenkins, the president of Notre Dame. Their participation in a national campaign that will mail red envelopes to the White House has been changed to send the letters to Fr. Jenkins.

?This envelope represents one child who died because of an abortion,? read the envelopes. ?It is empty because the life that was taken is now unable to be a part of our world. This envelope was going to be sent to President Obama on March 31. However, as he is scheduled to receive an Honorary Doctorate of Laws Degree from Notre Dame on May 17, we ask that you deliver it to him on our behalf at that time.?

As of Thursday afternoon, more than 166,000 petitioners had sent letters of protest to Fr. Jenkins via a Web site hosted by the Cardinal Newman Society.

The coalition is composed of Notre Dame Right to Life, The Irish Rover student newspaper, Notre Dame College Republicans, The University of Notre Dame Anscombe Society, Notre Dame Identity Project, Militia of the Immaculata, Children of Mary, Orestes Brownson Council, and the Right to Life, Thomas More Society and Federalist Society of the Notre Dame Law School.[/i]

BTW, I didn’t they were organizing protests, I said there will be protests. And there will.

Nice. So you found the one periodical, ironically enough written by the church, that makes it sound like the students are enraged.

When of course, the other media sources don’t say that.

Yup. Right.

Care to make anything else up?
Notre Dame is more than a football team… And if you hate Catholics that much I suggest you pick another team for your moniker.

I suggest you shove it up your ass, because I’ll have whatever fucking monikor I like.

[/quote]

Sucks to be dead-ass fucking wrong, doesn’t it?..It makes you mad and everything. Come on now, call me names…

[quote]pat wrote:

Sucks to be dead-ass fucking wrong, doesn’t it?..It makes you mad and everything. Come on now, call me names…[/quote]

I don’t need to.

“400 students, faculty, and others.”

Out of over 8,000 undergrads at the big crazy Catholic school, I’m gonna bet that maybe 250 were students.

Wow. Stop the damn presses, we got a movement started here. Next thing you know they’ll be overturning Roe v. Wade and making laws against coveting your neighbor’s wife.

Ridiculous.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
pat wrote:

Sucks to be dead-ass fucking wrong, doesn’t it?..It makes you mad and everything. Come on now, call me names…

I don’t need to.

“400 students, faculty, and others.”

Out of over 8,000 undergrads at the big crazy Catholic school, I’m gonna bet that maybe 250 were students.

Wow. Stop the damn presses, we got a movement started here. Next thing you know they’ll be overturning Roe v. Wade and making laws against coveting your neighbor’s wife.

Ridiculous. [/quote]

Want some cheese with that whine?

SOUTH BEND, Ind. ? Ten priests from the order that founded the University of Notre Dame say the school risks its “true soul” and could distance itself from the Roman Catholic Church by inviting President Barack Obama to campus next month.

The members of the Congregation of the Holy Cross, which helps run the university, asked the Rev. John Jenkins, the Holy Cross priest who is Notre Dame’s president, and the university’s board of fellows to reconsider the invitation to Obama because he supports abortion rights.

“Failure to do so will damage the integrity of the institution,” said the letter published Wednesday in Notre Dame Observer."

Priests recognize the Anti-Christ. Why don’t we.