Gutless Georgetown

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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Even worse than Notre Dame:

"When President Obama gave his economics speech at Georgetown University on Tuesday, several folks noticed something was missing.

That "something" was an ancient monogram -- the letters IHS -- that symbolizes the name of Jesus. It was missing from a wooden archway above the dais in Gaston Hall where the president delivered his 45-minute speech.

The gold-lettered monogram appeared near a painting of three female figures -- symbolizing morality, faith and patriotism -- and decorative edging along the wall that spelled out the Jesuit motto "Ad majorem Dei gloriam"--"To the greater glory of God." Georgetown was founded by the Jesuits.

Some of them may have been turning in their graves in the cemetery across campus at the sight of the missing monogram which looked like a blacked-out space above a blue backdrop and a row of American flags flanking the nation's chief executive. Was Georgetown selling short its Catholic heritage, we wondered.

According to Georgetown, the president asked them to cover up the Christian symbolism for his speech. Naturally, that gutless bunch agreed. What is wrong with them? I mean, really: What the freak is wrong with them? Caesar wants you to cover up the Christian symbolism in your, ahem, Christian university before he speaks there, you tell Caesar to go find somewhere else to speak. How hard is that? For Georgetown, impossible, it appears."

http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/04/the-gutless-georgetown-jesuits.html

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[quote]GDollars37 wrote:
Even worse than Notre Dame:

"When President Obama gave his economics speech at Georgetown University on Tuesday, several folks noticed something was missing.

That "something" was an ancient monogram -- the letters IHS -- that symbolizes the name of Jesus. It was missing from a wooden archway above the dais in Gaston Hall where the president delivered his 45-minute speech.

The gold-lettered monogram appeared near a painting of three female figures -- symbolizing morality, faith and patriotism -- and decorative edging along the wall that spelled out the Jesuit motto "Ad majorem Dei gloriam"--"To the greater glory of God." Georgetown was founded by the Jesuits.

Some of them may have been turning in their graves in the cemetery across campus at the sight of the missing monogram which looked like a blacked-out space above a blue backdrop and a row of American flags flanking the nation's chief executive. Was Georgetown selling short its Catholic heritage, we wondered.

According to Georgetown, the president asked them to cover up the Christian symbolism for his speech. Naturally, that gutless bunch agreed. What is wrong with them? I mean, really: What the freak is wrong with them? Caesar wants you to cover up the Christian symbolism in your, ahem, Christian university before he speaks there, you tell Caesar to go find somewhere else to speak. How hard is that? For Georgetown, impossible, it appears."

http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/04/the-gutless-georgetown-jesuits.html[/quote]

If it’s an issue that he not bee seen around any religious symbols, then he should respect their freedom of religion, and not freakin show up.

Question…

Has Obama spoken at a Mosque yet? Do you think that Muslims would allow him to cover up their symbology? Hell no, and he would not want to “offend” them either, but he sure knows Christians will roll right over and toss their principles aside for him.

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The words “gutless” and “Jesuits” don’t often go together…

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And if he goes to a temple i wonder if he’ll refuse to wear the Yamaka?

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[quote]Gregus wrote:
And if he goes to a temple i wonder if he’ll refuse to wear the Yamaka? [/quote]

Nope.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Even worse than Notre Dame:

"When President Obama gave his economics speech at Georgetown University on Tuesday, several folks noticed something was missing.

That "something" was an ancient monogram -- the letters IHS -- that symbolizes the name of Jesus. It was missing from a wooden archway above the dais in Gaston Hall where the president delivered his 45-minute speech.

The gold-lettered monogram appeared near a painting of three female figures -- symbolizing morality, faith and patriotism -- and decorative edging along the wall that spelled out the Jesuit motto "Ad majorem Dei gloriam"--"To the greater glory of God." Georgetown was founded by the Jesuits.

Some of them may have been turning in their graves in the cemetery across campus at the sight of the missing monogram which looked like a blacked-out space above a blue backdrop and a row of American flags flanking the nation's chief executive. Was Georgetown selling short its Catholic heritage, we wondered.

According to Georgetown, the president asked them to cover up the Christian symbolism for his speech. Naturally, that gutless bunch agreed. What is wrong with them? I mean, really: What the freak is wrong with them? Caesar wants you to cover up the Christian symbolism in your, ahem, Christian university before he speaks there, you tell Caesar to go find somewhere else to speak. How hard is that? For Georgetown, impossible, it appears."

http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2009/04/the-gutless-georgetown-jesuits.html

If it’s an issue that he not bee seen around any religious symbols, then he should respect their freedom of religion, and not freakin show up.

Question…

Has Obama spoken at a Mosque yet? Do you think that Muslims would allow him to cover up their symbology? Hell no, and he would not want to “offend” them either, but he sure knows Christians will roll right over and toss their principles aside for him.
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see notre dame might not like that, since they invited him and all.

and you cant go around offending christians. they might protest your favorite band.

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"Julie Bataille from the university’s press office e-mailed me that the White House had asked that all university signage and symbols behind the stage in Gaston Hall be covered.

"The White House wanted a simple backdrop of flags and pipe and drape for the speech, consistent with what they've done for other policy speeches," she wrote. "Frankly, the pipe and drape wasn't high enough by itself to fully cover the IHS and cross above the GU seal and it seemed most respectful to have them covered so as not to be seen out of context."

While the “IHS” directly behind where Obama spoke was covered over, CNSNews.com said the monogram was still visible in 26 other places in the hall during his speech. Those areas just weren’t as prominent."

It makes a certain degree of sense to me, as this was a speech specifically on economic policy and not merely a motivational address. To be seen handing down policy with a religious backdrop could certainly send the wrong message if taken out of context, although it seems more logical to me to explain policy somewhere else.

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I really do think that this dude is such a narcisist that he see’s himself as the second coming, and there doesn’t want any religous symbols around him when he speaks in public. I guess this proves he didnt hear anything when he was going to Rev. Wright’s church. Isnt he a christian?

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I think its time for Obambi to get fragged by some catholic extremist nut.

As a devout Catholic, I must express how insulted I am, that he would bow to some monarch, wear a yamakah at some wall, but ask that my religion remove its symbolism. In the institution that we built…

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[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Gregus wrote:
And if he goes to a temple i wonder if he’ll refuse to wear the Yamaka?

Nope.
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Wow, lol. I’m at a loss for words.

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A total outrage. Being anti-Catholic though is the last (or nearly the last) socially acceptable form of bigotry; and so this will be mostly ignored.

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He’s obviously anti-christian! Why else would he invoke the sermon on the mount during that speech? Obviously.

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Right. Because simply invoking the “sermon on the mount” (and thus perhaps casting oneself as who exactly?) undoubtedly means you’re Christian. Do you really believe that?

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Again, kind of ridiculous. And GDollars, I know you like playing the whole, “No, I’m really in the middle” thing, but you’re acting just like the rest of the dumb fucks on here.

Maybe the GOP Blowjob barn has finally gotten the best of you.

"I called the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior fellow at the Woodstock Institute at Georgetown University, who was at the speech, as to what he thought.

“It is more for camera quality than anything else,” he surmised. “They don’t want distractions that would make the eye wander. I don’t think this is motivated by theology, but by communications strategy.”

Kind of funny that the last president started two foreign wars and demolished the country and you guys just kept sucking and blowing, but some fuckin symbol gets covered up to make a background solid for an Obama speech and now it’s the end of the world.

Talk about fucked up priorities.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

"I called the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior fellow at the Woodstock Institute at Georgetown University, who was at the speech, as to what he thought.

“It is more for camera quality than anything else,” he surmised. “They don’t want distractions that would make the eye wander. I don’t think this is motivated by theology, but by communications strategy.”

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That quote undercuts itself and actually supports the critical view here on this thread. Yeah, we wouldn’t want any reminders of Christ to distract us from the chosen one, now would we? Yeah, that’s theology - what else do you think it is? Yeah, that’s also a communications strategy. Isn’t that EXACTLY the point? LOL!

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Again, kind of ridiculous. And GDollars, I know you like playing the whole, “No, I’m really in the middle” thing, but you’re acting just like the rest of the dumb fucks on here.

Maybe the GOP Blowjob barn has finally gotten the best of you.
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Not at all. Not trying to play to any “middle” (as the unlamented John Ashcroft said, the two things you find in the middle of the road are a moderate and a dead rodent), I’m on record as abhoring both the GOP and Obama, but I think I’m a lot more conservative than either. I can think the GOP has led this country into a moral and fiscal abyss and still think that Obama’s party, and probably the man himself, stand for a secular, relativist agenda that will sink this country even further. This is gonna sound pretentious as hell, but Bill Kauffman (highly recommend his books) sums it up: “I misfit the straitjackets designed by Fox News and the New York Times. So does any American worth the name.”

[quote]
"I called the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior fellow at the Woodstock Institute at Georgetown University, who was at the speech, as to what he thought.

“It is more for camera quality than anything else,” he surmised. “They don’t want distractions that would make the eye wander. I don’t think this is motivated by theology, but by communications strategy.”

Kind of funny that the last president started two foreign wars and demolished the country and you guys just kept sucking and blowing, but some fuckin symbol gets covered up to make a background solid for an Obama speech and now it’s the end of the world.

Talk about fucked up priorities. [/quote]

Yeah, fair point. Obama has a long way to go to equal Bush’s record. I don’t think he’s capable of being anywhere near that bad a president. Maybe he’ll surprise me. But it’s what those symbols represent: abortion on demand, multiculturalism, globalization…Left to fester a bit longer, those things will undo America far more than a disastrous war of choice.

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[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Right. Because simply invoking the “sermon on the mount” (and thus perhaps casting oneself as who exactly?) undoubtedly means you’re Christian. Do you really believe that? [/quote]

Sooooo,invoking the “sermon” casts him as someone, but that symbol would do something else, right?

And obviously it doesn’t mean he’s a Christian. Obviously it means he’s a Catholic-hating, born-in-Kenya, Indonesian Muslim Socialist. Obviously.