Got a great question from supmann on bb.com, figured it would be good to post up here.
[quote]supmannn wrote:
Cool log. Just wondering, what is the ROTC PT like? Tons of non functional body weight endurance stuff, or are they a bit smarter than that? I’m guessing it’s more focused on endurance and things like that… how do you balance your strength training with your required ROTC PT?
I’m going for a +300 score on the APFT and it’s pretty tricky trying to balance my APFT training with my strength training and my Crossfit style metcons… can’t do a long distance run after my squat day, can’t do a long distance run after my deadlift day, can’t do heavy squats or deadlifts before running, sprints can mess up my legs and make me unable to finish a squat or deadlift workout, too many push ups and I miss my reps for my press work out, intense metcons can mess with things… I have tons of respect for marathon runners and powerlifters, but even more respect with people who are able to balance a 500+ lbs deadlift with a sub 3 minute Fran time with a sub 13 minute 2 mile run and 80+ push ups and sit ups.
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Took me forever to write this up, my ‘S’ and 1 and 2 key are broken right now so it’s a lot of Copy and Paste.
The only unit PT that I’ve taken part in is our own, but we generally split up the PT group into Balanced, Cardio and Muscular Endurance/Strength. For MS2s and below PT is three days a week and for the MS3s it’s five days. A cadet can pick which group to go with each day depending on their weakness. Inevitably this leads to people avoiding the thing they suck at but that’s up to the MS4s to enforce. My first three years the groups were led by 3s as part of their leadership training but it didn’t work nearly as well due to every cadet trying to outdo the last with excessive plans with no rhyme or reason.
Balanced PT Timeline usually look like this:
0600 - 0610: M3 led warm up
0610 - 0620: Ab Circuit (supine bicycle, flutter kick, crunches, all that bull****)
0620 - 0635: Pushup, maybe some pullups and other upper body thrown in
0635 - 0710: Ability Group Run or Interval, possibly with more abs at the end
I can definitely sympathize with you because I struggle with it all the time. One of the best plan I think for any beginning cadet or soldier is 5/3/1. I would personally set it up like this.
MONDAY
Bench 5/3/1
Blast Strap Pushup (Olympic Rings or Pushup handles work too) - 50 reps, increase over time
Tricep variation - 3x10-20
Pullup or Chin - one set in between every set of bench, pushup and triceps. Pick 50-60% of your max rep (ex. if you can do 10 pullups, do et of 5-6)
TUEDAY
Deadlift 5/3/1
KB Swing or Back Extension - 50 reps, increase over time
Single Leg variation 3x10-20
Decline Situp 5x10-20
THURDAY
Military Press 5/3/1
Dip (Regular or Blast Strap) - 50 reps, increase over time
Bicep variation - 3x10-20
Row variation - same as pullups, pick a weight and do sets of 8 across in-between each set
FRIDAY OR SATURDAY
Squat 5/3/1
KB Swing or Back Extension - 50 reps, increase over time
Front Squat or Single Leg variation - 3x10-20
Hanging Leg Raise - 5x10-20
Accessory Work: You probably don’t need much more on this template but I would never frown at anyone for doing extra shoulder prehab like Face Pulls and DB Power Cleans.
From what I’ve seen in ROTC, the kid who tart out skinny and weak who build up a good endurance base AND THEN focus on strength have a lot more success than the other way around (cough me cough). Fat guys don’t have this luxury so they might a well do both at the same time.
The true beauty of 5/3/1 is that you can pick your battles on your main exercises very easily. You’re always going to run into days where you had to do 00 - 300 pushups with drop-sets and pyramids in the morning at PT and you’re supposed to do a rep out on bench. Having a flexible template like this makes those situations a lot more bearable.
Generally I’ve found it best to do strength and cardio on the same day- if it’s interval or hill work, then strength in the AM or afternoon followed by sprints later on. If it’s more distance work then that in the AM and strength in the PM. I always face a challenge with conditioning in December/January/February since Upstate NY is definitely not outdoor running friendly in the depths of winter.
Definitely a big topic, might revisit it later.