Not African-American Enough?

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
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Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
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When you say American are you referring to the continent? [/quote]

Oh, don’t be snarky. Besides, there are TWO American continents. Learn geography.
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Depends on what country you pick up a geography book in.

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[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
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When you say American are you referring to the continent? [/quote]

Lol.

I remember when I was you, making semantics arguments to make myself feel smart. Of course, I was 14 and by brain was only developed enough to come up with “arguments” filled with such ass-hatery. Seriously, that’s the sort of thing kids say to each other in a pathetic childish attempt to intellectually bully other kids.

If you think race boils down to skin tone, you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I’m not being hyperbolic. I cringed after reading that. I’m embarrassed for you. [/quote]

I was actually pointing out that I am these days pretty much an American though I am not a US citizen. But you are welcome to your rant, I hope it made you feel better about whatever ails you.[/quote]

Mmmm I’m pretty sure you could’ve figured out what he was trying to say to you, which still makes your comment snarky.

But for the record, oodles better.

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[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

I’d be remiss if I did not point out that you engaged in the very conduct you expressed your false indignation for; ass-hatery, pathetic childish attempt to bully, ad hominem and a disingenuous expression of emotion.

Perhaps you only engaged in the semantically driven pissing contests when you were 14, but now that you’re 16 (I presume), you’ve graduated into thinking you’re more clever than you actually are. Don’t fret, this is a relatively “temporary condition” which usually lasts until you’re about 36 - when you realize that back then you didn’t know shit about shit, and you still don’t know shit about shit, but by then you are starting to realize that you truly don’t know.

:)[/quote]

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What ad-hominem? What disingenuous expression of emotion?
Maybe you don’t believe me, but I do cringe when I read incorrect statements spawned from ideologically driven egalitarianism.

I’m guessing you also think race boils down to skin-tone? [/quote]

What’s with the also. I don’t think race boils down to skin-tone. I think race is an arbitrary label that people put on groups that they either want to claim to be part of or want to claim an opinion on. Given that I am more than twice your age and have spent more time than you have been on this earth travelling and living in different parts of the world I can give you the benefit of some wisdom that I have picked up. People are people.[/quote]

" To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid."

^ Sorry, something about you saying race is made up of people of a certain skin pigment just comes off as though you’re saying race is defined by the grouping of people based on skin pigment. Maybe I’m just crazy.

Yes, people are people, but their are significant aggregate differences between races that add up to more than merely skin pigment. That’s my point.

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[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
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The stupidity of the issue really stands out when you’re forced to explain it.

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Who cares?

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Who cares?[/quote]

crickets lol

I actually do care about the underlying issue of racism, just not the OP.

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[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Who cares?[/quote]

crickets lol

I actually do care about the underlying issue of racism, just not the OP. [/quote]
It wasn’t directed at you. I was referring to the basis of the thread.

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]Oleena wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Who cares?[/quote]

crickets lol

I actually do care about the underlying issue of racism, just not the OP. [/quote]
It wasn’t directed at you. I was referring to the basis of the thread.[/quote]

I was replying in general because your question seemed aimed at the entire thread. Hard to tell intentions through text sometimes.