Not African-American Enough?

I had my Visa application rejected here in Mexico because in the section for Race I put Human.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
I had my Visa application rejected here in Mexico because in the section for Race I put Human.[/quote]

You’re supposed to put that in the “sex” box.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

First of all, every time a case like this occurs–as regrettable as it is that the defendants had to deal with all of this in the first place–free speech is expanded and/or protected. Think about it: this case could have gone one of two ways, for or against free speech and the defendants’ right to it. The decision went in favor of the defendants/speech.
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I understand your technical point, but I think the above reasoning is myopic. Putting aside the costs of defending these frivolous lawsuits (which are significant), you are ignoring the social effect of such lawsuits which literally suck the life out of social discourse and our work environments.

If you’ve ever worked for a large or medium sized corporation for example, you’re probably familiar with all the bullshit HR policies, many of which have nothing to do with actually violating the law, but more to do with the risk of a frivolous lawsuit or an unhappy employee. Sexual harassment is the best example I can think of. What conduct is actual (as defined by law) sexual harassment and what spawns so many complaints, in addition to what workers have gotten reprimanded for or worse at work, are two different animals entirely. Because of these bullshit lawsuits, you have a generation of women that believe if a guy dares to ask them out at work (of course only if she doesn’t like him) that the same can constitute “harassment”.

From a social perspective, we create an environment where we live in fear of “offending” someone which does nothing to break down racial and other such barriers. I think it reinforces the attitude in some people that it’s “easier to stick with my own kind”, in my opinion. Likewise at work, many environments are polluted with autobots that don’t dare risk relatively healthy and harmless social discourse? The day of the office joke? Dead in many companies.

I say I agree with your technical point, but the unintended fall-out is a society that largely believes it has the right to not be offended.

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

First of all, every time a case like this occurs–as regrettable as it is that the defendants had to deal with all of this in the first place–free speech is expanded and/or protected. Think about it: this case could have gone one of two ways, for or against free speech and the defendants’ right to it. The decision went in favor of the defendants/speech.
[/quote]

I understand your technical point, but I think the above reasoning is myopic. Putting aside the costs of defending these frivolous lawsuits (which are significant), you are ignoring the social effect of such lawsuits which literally suck the life out of social discourse and our work environments.

If you’ve ever worked for a large or medium sized corporation for example, you’re probably familiar with all the bullshit HR policies, many of which have nothing to do with actually violating the law, but more to do with the risk of a frivolous lawsuit or an unhappy employee. Sexual harassment is the best example I can think of. What conduct is actual (as defined by law) sexual harassment and what spawns so many complaints, in addition to what workers have gotten reprimanded for or worse at work, are two different animals entirely. Because of these bullshit lawsuits, you have a generation of women that believe if a guy dares to ask them out at work (of course only if she doesn’t like him) that the same can constitute “harassment”.

From a social perspective, we create an environment where we live in fear of “offending” someone which does nothing to break down racial and other such barriers. I think it reinforces the attitude in some people that it’s “easier to stick with my own kind”, in my opinion. Likewise at work, many environments are polluted with autobots that don’t dare risk relatively healthy and harmless social discourse? The day of the office joke? Dead in many companies.

I say I agree with your technical point, but the unintended fall-out is a society that largely believes it has the right to not be offended. [/quote]

Well, I’d say that the unintended fallout of enumerated rights written in a way open to interpretation is the ability to sue the shit out of people for pretty much anything and let the courts decide whether any violation of those rights occurred. So if the unintended fallout of THAT is the society we have today, where there is a sense of victimization and the right not to be offended, perhaps we should address the root cause of all this: the Constitution.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

First of all, every time a case like this occurs–as regrettable as it is that the defendants had to deal with all of this in the first place–free speech is expanded and/or protected. Think about it: this case could have gone one of two ways, for or against free speech and the defendants’ right to it. The decision went in favor of the defendants/speech.
[/quote]

I understand your technical point, but I think the above reasoning is myopic. Putting aside the costs of defending these frivolous lawsuits (which are significant), you are ignoring the social effect of such lawsuits which literally suck the life out of social discourse and our work environments.

If you’ve ever worked for a large or medium sized corporation for example, you’re probably familiar with all the bullshit HR policies, many of which have nothing to do with actually violating the law, but more to do with the risk of a frivolous lawsuit or an unhappy employee. Sexual harassment is the best example I can think of. What conduct is actual (as defined by law) sexual harassment and what spawns so many complaints, in addition to what workers have gotten reprimanded for or worse at work, are two different animals entirely. Because of these bullshit lawsuits, you have a generation of women that believe if a guy dares to ask them out at work (of course only if she doesn’t like him) that the same can constitute “harassment”.

From a social perspective, we create an environment where we live in fear of “offending” someone which does nothing to break down racial and other such barriers. I think it reinforces the attitude in some people that it’s “easier to stick with my own kind”, in my opinion. Likewise at work, many environments are polluted with autobots that don’t dare risk relatively healthy and harmless social discourse? The day of the office joke? Dead in many companies.

I say I agree with your technical point, but the unintended fall-out is a society that largely believes it has the right to not be offended. [/quote]

Well, I’d say that the unintended fallout of enumerated rights written in a way open to interpretation is the ability to sue the shit out of people for pretty much anything and let the courts decide whether any violation of those rights occurred. So if the unintended fallout of THAT is the society we have today, where there is a sense of victimization and the right not to be offended, perhaps we should address the root cause of all this: the Constitution.[/quote]

A simple change (not in the Constitution) actually enforcing a defendant’s right to recover attorney fees for frivolous litigation would stop the bullshit. There are such laws on the books, but rarely enforced. Make such laws comprehensive and have the Courts enforce them, and you’ll see the bullshit lawsuits disappear. While we’re at it, make the plaintiff attorneys culpable for the damages if their client is indigent.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:

Regarding the school vote/poster thing: this may in fact be an area in which the Court would actually rule in favor of the school removing the posters and effectively infringing upon the white students’ speech rights. I don’t think it would go that way necessarily, but the Court does have to take into consideration the phrase “designed to cause imminent lawless action” and whether that is a possibility here. [/quote]

How can anyone believe these posters were “designed to cause imminent lawless action”? They asked people to vote for an african-american for an award for african-americans. How can any of that be construed as lawless?

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

Because when 20 folks are standing around and only one is black, or white, it’s a pretty quick description. But then there’s the whole “what term or phrase is not-offensive this week” deal. But yeah, I’ve never had a ‘black’ person correct me for ‘black.’ But I have been asked to not use African-American, funny enough. The only people who’ve pushed ‘African-American’ recently to me have been WHITE Humanities professors. Go figure. I think higher education might just make you more uptight and irritating while everyone else has moved on. A little hypothesis of mine!

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
[/quote]

When you say American are you referring to the continent?

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
[/quote]

When you say American are you referring to the continent? [/quote]

Oh, don’t be snarky. Besides, there are TWO American continents. Learn geography.

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
[/quote]

When you say American are you referring to the continent? [/quote]

Lol.

I remember when I was you, making semantics arguments to make myself feel smart. Of course, I was 14 and by brain was only developed enough to come up with “arguments” filled with such ass-hatery. Seriously, that’s the sort of thing kids say to each other in a pathetic childish attempt to intellectually bully other kids.

If you think race boils down to skin tone, you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I’m not being hyperbolic. I cringed after reading that. I’m embarrassed for you.

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]Grneyes wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
[/quote]

Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
[/quote]

When you say American are you referring to the continent? [/quote]

Lol.

I remember when I was you, making semantics arguments to make myself feel smart. Of course, I was 14 and by brain was only developed enough to come up with “arguments” filled with such ass-hatery. Seriously, that’s the sort of thing kids say to each other in a pathetic childish attempt to intellectually bully other kids.

If you think race boils down to skin tone, you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I’m not being hyperbolic. I cringed after reading that. I’m embarrassed for you. [/quote]

I’d be remiss if I did not point out that you engaged in the very conduct you expressed your false indignation for; ass-hatery, pathetic childish attempt to bully, ad hominem and a disingenuous expression of emotion.

Perhaps you only engaged in the semantically driven pissing contests when you were 14, but now that you’re 16 (I presume), you’ve graduated into thinking you’re more clever than you actually are. Don’t fret, this is a relatively “temporary condition” which usually lasts until you’re about 36 - when you realize that back then you didn’t know shit about shit, and you still don’t know shit about shit, but by then you are starting to realize that you truly don’t know.

:slight_smile:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

I’d be remiss if I did not point out that you engaged in the very conduct you expressed your false indignation for; ass-hatery, pathetic childish attempt to bully, ad hominem and a disingenuous expression of emotion.

Perhaps you only engaged in the semantically driven pissing contests when you were 14, but now that you’re 16 (I presume), you’ve graduated into thinking you’re more clever than you actually are. Don’t fret, this is a relatively “temporary condition” which usually lasts until you’re about 36 - when you realize that back then you didn’t know shit about shit, and you still don’t know shit about shit, but by then you are starting to realize that you truly don’t know.

:)[/quote]

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What ad-hominem? What disingenuous expression of emotion?
Maybe you don’t believe me, but I do cringe when I read incorrect statements spawned from ideologically driven egalitarianism.

I’m guessing you also think race boils down to skin-tone?

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

I’d be remiss if I did not point out that you engaged in the very conduct you expressed your false indignation for; ass-hatery, pathetic childish attempt to bully, ad hominem and a disingenuous expression of emotion.

Perhaps you only engaged in the semantically driven pissing contests when you were 14, but now that you’re 16 (I presume), you’ve graduated into thinking you’re more clever than you actually are. Don’t fret, this is a relatively “temporary condition” which usually lasts until you’re about 36 - when you realize that back then you didn’t know shit about shit, and you still don’t know shit about shit, but by then you are starting to realize that you truly don’t know.

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What ad-hominem? What disingenuous expression of emotion?
Maybe you don’t believe me, but I do cringe when I read incorrect statements spawned from ideologically driven egalitarianism.

I’m guessing you also think race boils down to skin-tone? [/quote]

18 LOL. I pretty much nailed it.

Read your reply again and you’ll have your answers. “Cringing” it not what you expressed, among other things.

As for my opinion on this thread, I have not put a horse into this race.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

I’d be remiss if I did not point out that you engaged in the very conduct you expressed your false indignation for; ass-hatery, pathetic childish attempt to bully, ad hominem and a disingenuous expression of emotion.

Perhaps you only engaged in the semantically driven pissing contests when you were 14, but now that you’re 16 (I presume), you’ve graduated into thinking you’re more clever than you actually are. Don’t fret, this is a relatively “temporary condition” which usually lasts until you’re about 36 - when you realize that back then you didn’t know shit about shit, and you still don’t know shit about shit, but by then you are starting to realize that you truly don’t know.

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What ad-hominem? What disingenuous expression of emotion?
Maybe you don’t believe me, but I do cringe when I read incorrect statements spawned from ideologically driven egalitarianism.

I’m guessing you also think race boils down to skin-tone? [/quote]

18 LOL. I pretty much nailed it.

Read your reply again and you’ll have your answers. “Cringing” it not what you expressed, among other things.

As for my opinion on this thread, I have not put a horse into this race.
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… If you think being off by double the distance you called is nailing it, then yeah, I guess you did.

Re-read it. There is no ad-hominem or false emotion. Telling me I didn’t cringe is rather presumptuous of you given that you don’t know me nor what I do or do not cringe at.

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

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[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]Chris87 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Did they mean “award for being black?” Why not have said that in the first place? A suspension?

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/01/25/a_little_less_freedom_of_speech/[/quote]

There are two reasons this happened:

1-the school administrators and anyone that complained are stupid motherfuckers who think everyone in Africa is black

and 2-People trying to be SOOOOOOO politically correct and not offend anyone that they use a term (african-american) that doesn’t even apply to the people they use it for. The black kids at that school are not african-american. They were not born in Africa, have not been to Africa, don’t know anyone in Africa, and are not affiliated with Africa in any fucking way.

Just like white people are not called European american, because the vast majority are not from fucking Europe.[/quote]

Agreed.

It’s high time we drop this bullshit “african american” crap and call them black, brown or whatever. It’s not racist to call you black if you’re black - no more than it’s racist to describe my appearance as “white”.
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Actually, there’s already been a move away from african-american and toward black for several years now within the black community, of which I am not a member. I can’t remember where the hell I read it now but I just read an article a couple days ago about the history of what blacks prefer to be referred to as by whites or non-blacks, from Negro to black to African-American. I guess when you go black you do go back.[/quote]

Why the hell are you talking about what ‘Blacks’ prefer to be refferd to as by ‘Whites’? We are all just people, we have different ammounts of pigment in our skins based on where our ancestors lived. To try to lump together everyone who has more than a certain amount of pigment or less than a certain amount of pigment as a group is stupid. [/quote]

You are so obviously NOT an American. Here, the color of your skin is of UTMOST importance. We used to have terms for the amount of “black” blood you had. A mulatto was half/half, like Obama. A quadroon had at least one mulatto/biracial parent. When Obama was running, because he is only “half” black, was considered “not black enough” to be considered black. He wasn’t white, of course, you can’t be white if you have black blood, you have to be black. What people of African descent are called has always been contentious, and probably always will be. We still have people alive who had grandparents who were slaves, for crying out loud. This issue will never go away.
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When you say American are you referring to the continent? [/quote]

Lol.

I remember when I was you, making semantics arguments to make myself feel smart. Of course, I was 14 and by brain was only developed enough to come up with “arguments” filled with such ass-hatery. Seriously, that’s the sort of thing kids say to each other in a pathetic childish attempt to intellectually bully other kids.

If you think race boils down to skin tone, you have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. I’m not being hyperbolic. I cringed after reading that. I’m embarrassed for you. [/quote]

I was actually pointing out that I am these days pretty much an American though I am not a US citizen. But you are welcome to your rant, I hope it made you feel better about whatever ails you.

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

I’d be remiss if I did not point out that you engaged in the very conduct you expressed your false indignation for; ass-hatery, pathetic childish attempt to bully, ad hominem and a disingenuous expression of emotion.

Perhaps you only engaged in the semantically driven pissing contests when you were 14, but now that you’re 16 (I presume), you’ve graduated into thinking you’re more clever than you actually are. Don’t fret, this is a relatively “temporary condition” which usually lasts until you’re about 36 - when you realize that back then you didn’t know shit about shit, and you still don’t know shit about shit, but by then you are starting to realize that you truly don’t know.

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What ad-hominem? What disingenuous expression of emotion?
Maybe you don’t believe me, but I do cringe when I read incorrect statements spawned from ideologically driven egalitarianism.

I’m guessing you also think race boils down to skin-tone? [/quote]

What’s with the also. I don’t think race boils down to skin-tone. I think race is an arbitrary label that people put on groups that they either want to claim to be part of or want to claim an opinion on. Given that I am more than twice your age and have spent more time than you have been on this earth travelling and living in different parts of the world I can give you the benefit of some wisdom that I have picked up. People are people.