Normal Labs - No Libido

Do you get any unwanted side effects from the mast? Presume you stack it wiyh your test dose rather than pin separately?

then its fake… no way in hell Caber does not kill prolactin - it is real medicine used for this purpose.

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It made no difference to my libido, I mean. It probably did lower my prolactin to be fair because I had tests done not long after starting it and prolactin was well within range.

Is there anything else in these labs that might explain not just a lack of libido but like, a totally dead and unresponsive, numb genital area? I mean, I’ve started clomid since I got these labs, but I wasn’t suppressed from the TRT so I don’t even know why I’m doing this PCT.

Okay. I’m certain my gear is real - it’s branded stuff. I get your point about labs now being pointless but don’t they still suggest I’m bouncing back without a PCT? Given the fact my FSH and LH are within range

That still shuts you down. Your body doesn’t care how much or how little exogenous testosterone you use, it responds the same way irrespective. Trt, cycle, doesn’t matter.

That is fully and completely stupid. That is the kind of bad idea that would win you an award in other communities.

As far as you being convinced your test is real, I’ll say this: the brand you used (probably delete the name from your comment, that’s not allowed here) is one of the few things that’s consistently faked as far as testosterone goes. Test is rarely faked because it’s so cheap to make. But the fake pharma market is pretty vast and the people who make counterfeit pharma brands often don’t even bother to put actual hormone in the oil. They’re the purest form of scammer out there. Unless you got it from an actual, real pharmacy you should be suspicious.

Thanks I’ve edited out the brand name.

I’m certain it’s real - I walked into reputable pharmacy chains in Colombia (they do exist!) and bought them. I’m also certain it’s real because it did work for a good year or so. Even since my libido went…I know it’s real because I’d get the anger - which got dangerously pent up when combined with sexual dysfunction/anhedonia.

So… resetting is a bad idea. That means the PCT I’m on is a waste of time and I should stop? And do what? Ideally I want to stick with Test E it’s by far the most accessible for me.

The NHS won’t take me on because I’m within range. The TRT clinic I got my bloods with said they don’t know if their doctor can prescribe to me - according to national guidelines my T has to be under 15 and it’s 15.20. They’ll hopefully tell me on Monday he’ll make allowances for the .20 but I don’t know. I’ve paid for two private endocrinologists in the past and even the one in Colombia said it’s unethical for him to advise on TRT issues.

If you can walk into a pharmacy and buy genuine pharmaceutical testosterone then I don’t see why you’d need a doctor to prescribe anything to you.

And yes, if your plan is to just go back on again then coming off doesn’t make much sense. You’re putting your body through a roller coaster of hormone swings for no obvious benefit.

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I’m in the UK now. I work remotely. That was when I was in Colombia. I want to stabilise on a TRT schedule before I leave the UK again because last year I was trapped in Latin America - hypogonadal alone on lockdown. Not pleasant!

Mate, your options are endless while you’re here in the UK, you can get whatever you want whenever you want it.

Party time :+1:

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None that I can think of.

Sounds good, I would just want it for libido/well being so a low does would work :+1:

Lol. Party time can wait. Right now I need a balanced TRT schedule and I’d really love to find out why with my labs the way they are…I have the feeling of being suppressed.

I’m on a TRT schedule not cycling. I don’t mast is right for TRT.

No, you are cycling lol. Us TRT folks don’t PCT randomly.

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Yeah I get you. I need to get back on a 2/3 pin a week low dose Test E then. It all went pear shaped for me because (to cut a very long story short) I was dosing every couple of weeks at massively supra-physiological doses.

Do you run this permanently? Can you do this with masteron?

How massive?
Frequent pins don’t work for everyone, maybe a bit less dosage but longer duration could work for you.

I’ve tried it all over the last 2 yrs, 14 day pins at 375mg work perfectly for me.

It’s trial and error and patience that gets us there eh

Up to 500mg a week when I was really hitting the gym. Then my estrogen went through the roof (and the gyms shut) and I’ve never really recovered. This was last year. I’ve come off and done PCTs and had labs done then as soon as I have one 250mg shot I’m ok for a week or so then I blow up with water retention and lose my libido. So now I’m set to try tiny, regular doses. If that doesn’t work I honestly don’t know what to do. I really don’t want to branch out into other compounds or end up with a pharmacluster of AIs and what not. 250mg every week to ten days worked great for a couple of years then I fucked it up and thought I was a (very poorly informed) bodybuilder when all I wanted was testosterone optimisation.

If I did your schedule I’d be a mess!

Just pick a reasonable dose and protocol and stick to it for 6-8 weeks and decide if you’re happy or want to change. Maybe start with like 75mg injected twice a week or every 3.5 days. Or maybe one shot a week of 150. What ever you decide on, if you don’t do it consistently, you will NEVER see the benefits and only the side effects. TRT is not something you just randomly take here and there at varying levels.

You really need to do some more reading as some of your previous ideas and ways you went about it make zero sense from a performance or feel good or therapeutic standpoint. It’s just dumb.

75mg twice a week for six weeks then.

I agree, it was all really dumb. I stumbled dumbly and blindly into the world of testosterone replacement (and one crazy week last year where I took 100mg of nandrolone). I really didn’t know a thing apart from what it said on the labels or dosages on Wikipedia and didn’t find this site until I was already in way over my head.