Nordic Blood: Climbing And Lifting / Lifting And Climbing

6 weeks to superhero, another shiny object.
It’s a bit similar to his layer system.
I’m going with CT’s SGSS program.
I might start the bench and squat with that overload movement, 2 or 3 sets before the main set… maybe

Out of curiosity, how tall are you?

I looked back to the start of your log, 6"1?

I like it, it suits me well. I like dense workloads. The workouts take a bit too long and one has to occupy too many barbells to get a 5-star rating but workout duration is just a personal preference, and the barbell thing isn’t an issue when you workout when I do but it wouldn’t ever fly if I worked out at a smaller gym or in the afternoon.

Never actually had a look at his layer system

Best of luck!

Don’t change SGSS before running it “true” at least once :wink:

Yup, 6"1 in American :slight_smile:

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Nice. Im short as hell (5"9.)

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I’m not tall in my country. I’m average-ish. You’d be tiny here!

I know you’re right and I do say that to everybody as well, run the damn thing to the T… But I’m old and stubborn, so I’m allowing myself to play around a bit. Thinking I’m wiser than a coach :slight_smile:
I think doing 2 - 3 sets quarter squats with say 100-105% of 1RM before doing sets of 8 or more could be a good activation of the quads and help hypertrophy.

Damnit

I’d say there are arguments supporting either side. I’m generally opposed to dogmatism. The program wasn’t written for you specifically, you hopefully know yourself well enough, and so, if there are any amendments you feel that you need to make then go right ahead.

With that said, adding in things you haven’t tested, that aren’t added in to make up for some weakness that you are struggling with, sounds more like chasing new and shiny things as opposed to being pragmatic with a program.

Cap it at 2 sets if you are intent on doing this. The program alone is meant to provide the impetus for muscle growth, keep this for the mental boost you get from moving bigger weights and the muscle activation. What squat style do you use? If you don’t squat bodybuilding style, I’d venture you’d benefit more from doing some posterior chain activation exercise instead.

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Hehe, I feel you even though I’m taller than you. Have plenty of coworkers and friends that dwarf me with at least 10 cm.

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I do low bar squats, and might even think doing high bar quarter squats for 2 sets as activation might be good. You can’t train quads too much.
Capping at 2 sets sounds good, maybe even 1 set for the first 3 - 5 weeks.

Maybe this is just my inexperience, but why would you want to activate a muscle you don’t mean to use as a prime mover in an exercise?

Go with two. It’s possible you’ll find that the first one allows you to go significantly heavier on the next one. At least try it, once.

By coincidence I happened to read up on heavy partials on Thib’s site today, here’s a quote

I personally see no point in using heavy partials if you can’t bench press at least 1.75x, squat 2.25x and deadlift 2.75x your body weight. There will be exceptions (like with everything), but this is normally pretty accurate. OF COURSE, I’m talking about supra-maximal partials here. The submaximal and even maximal versions can likely be used sooner.

CONCLUSION

Properly done partial lifting is one of the most powerful methods I know. It is an advanced method though, so not everybody should use it, but when used properly by the right person it can deliver very rapid gains in strength. It can also be adapted to hypertrophy training and even technique work. A great tool to add to your toolbox!

So by that metric, I shouldn’t be using it but, I’m not abandoning the program just for that. But it might be something you want to take into account.

I wouldn’t do supra-maximal weights. I would use a max weight on bench I would use 100 kg (hopeful that is my new 1RM) and not like 110 or 115 kg, so I should be good to go :slight_smile:

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Mort, wait till you complete the 5 x 8 day on all leg exercises at least once to decide if you want to add more work to the program.

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@Frank_C How long did the training sessions take you during your first run of SGSS?

Where’s your proof? Have you seen pictures of him as a teenager? He definitely had a head start on me.

The shorter days would take 35-45 minutes. The longer days would take around 70 minutes I think.

I think that because I’m doing considerably lower weights than you do, wouldn’t tax me as much… But I might be proven wrong.

5 sets of squats followed by 5 sets of deadlifts will tax your CNS.

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How long do/did you rest between sets? The only time I found that the program mentions a rest period is in the final block where it’s 30-45 seconds.