Nordic Blood: Climbing And Lifting / Lifting And Climbing

2020-01-27

Week 4 (6-8)

Back to barbell benching. Experimented a bit with my grip width. Another new joiner in the gym today so no quality logging.

Bench 5x6-8
4@80
5-6@75
8@70, felt easy
?@70

A nice and controlled eccentric with the bar just barely grazing my t-shirt. Also saw the most insane-o bridge ever in the gym today. Ass was decimeters above the bench. Guy proceeds to squat 20 kilo less than he benched.

Press 3x8-12
7@40
8@35
7?@35

Dips 3x8-12
8@20
7?8?@15
8?@15

Rope Triceps Extension 3x8-10 (ss: Cable Curl)

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:rofl:

Don’t see these measures used a lot. I approve.

I don’t think this is too unusual in regular gym goers. At lower levels (<100kg), I suspect that bench responds pretty well to training like a typical gym goer. Possibly better than the slow, sensible, intelligent programming most people on this site follow.

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I even tagged my log as metric to spare my ego of writing out kg all the time.

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2020-01-29

Week 4 (6-8)

Deadlift 6-8
8@120

I regret trying this, my hamstring was not ready, which was evident not during but after I went and filled up my water bottle. I can feel the injury even more now, after the session. I’m willing to guess that the next exercise was a gamble with the benefit of hindsight but I got lucky. Shouldn’t be long until I can deadlift normally again. It’s hard to exercise self-restraint, especially since I assume that adrenaline kicks in and you just don’t feel muscular pain the same way.

Trap-bar
8@150
6?@170
8@170

This was cool. Didn’t know I had that in me. Also nice to see that despite using straps, my grip is not going to be an issue for a long time. #climber

Front Squat 4x4-6 (8s eccentric)
4x5@50

Week 3 (yeah, I missed a week because of the injury): 5-8 second eccentric with 3 sec pause at midrange of concentric motion

Honestly wanted to cry before starting a few of these sets. So, great exercise selection?

Bent-over Row (parallel to floor) 3x10-12
6@70
12@50
10@55

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2020-01-31

Week 4 (4-6 on PP)

Push Press 4x4-6
5@60, PR
6@55
5@55
5@55

Close-grip Bench 3x10-12
10@65
10@60
10@ 60

High Incline DB press 4x6-8
6@24
6@22
6@20
7@18

EZ-bar Curls 3x10-12
Diamond Push-ups with a 5s pause in the bottom 3xAMRAP

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No thank you.

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@T3hPwnisher how did you run BBB Beefcake with regards to the main lift?

The article is written after Forever came out, so I see there being so many different interpretations that I can make, either

  1. Original BBB from before Forever (5/3/1 sets and percentages)
  2. Original BBB as described in Forever (5/3/1 percentages, all fives)
  3. Forever BBB, (3/5/1 percentages, all fives, which I presume is 5’s PRO)

Given this paragraph in the article

In the case of BBB, the supplemental work is hard (as in a lot of volume is done with a ā€œbigā€ movement.) Because of this, the main work (main sets of the program) must be done in a limited manner.

Alternative 1 is the most limited. But, since I’m operating off of your recommendation I want to hear what you had in mind.

Edit: revisited your reddit post, found this,

For the mainwork, stick with sets of 5 across (don’t go for AMRAP sets) and really push yourself on the supplemental work.

you missed the part about an 8sec eccentric :laughing:

It’s worse, last I did an 8s eccentric with a 3s pause on the concentric. This week (final) it’ll be 8s eccentric with two 3s pauses. One during the eccentric movement (so more like 11s eccentric) and once during the concentric.

Last week was the first week where the lifting I was doing made me want to cry in the gym. I really, really, did not want to go back under the barbell. I had a friend count out all the seconds and reps which was good because I genuinely forgot what rep I was on (asked between each one)

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Weight is up ever so slightly but barely enough. Like, I’m even a bit unsure it’s up. So, there’s room to gain more. True to my word: 4000+ calories tomorrow. And then the week will be 3200/2700 (on/off)

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Blech.

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I will say though, I have respect for people who can focus on prolonged eccentrics and isometrics. I can’t at all.

I appreciate the new thread.

I worry a lot about signal to noise ratio, hence posting here. I very much hope to be wrong because I really like the idea.

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Thank you. Truly.

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2020-02-02

At the knives edge of having a cold break out. Was out of breath before I even entered the gym, swimming in sweat afte my normal warm-up and got a headache midway through the session.

Week 5 (new target rep range 4-6)

My goal was to set RMs for starting BBB Beefcake but I couldn’t go as heavy as I’d hoped.

Back squat
2@120, these were pushing my injury a bit so I backed off. Again. I had several more reps in me, it’s more of an injury issue. Think I can maybe swing three reps at 130. Possibly more still with a belt.
6@110, still a bit too intense on the hamstring. Again
8@105, some pain. Was too intense in rehab yesterday
8@105, some pain
6@105, I had 8 in me. Don’t know why I didn’t go for it.

Overall disappointing

Front Squat
4@80, questionable depth
4@80
6@75
7+4@70, asked my friends to call out two numbers each. Did 7, racked for a few breaths, did 4.

Much better than last time

With my hamstring feeling as it did I knew I had no business doing RFESS today either. There’s a lot of unilateral leg work in BBB Beefcake, so that particular exercise would be a no-go for a little while longer. Lunges in place with weight might work though.

Leg extension 3x8-25
Swiss-ball ab curl 3x10-12

Despite improving from last week I just felt like shit throughout and as such it felt like a shitty session even though it wasn’t one. Meh.

To clarify, I’ve never run Beefcake. When I ran BBB, Beefcake wasn’t a thing, so I ran BBB as outlined in the first edition of 5/3/1. This meant PR sets for the mainwork. However, for BBB, I’d run 5s pro (the all 5s that you mentioned).

I never cared for 3/5/1, but it works. I did it for Building the Monolith, and with BBB Beefcake it’s probably a smart move, as week 2 gives you a break before week 3, and week 4 before week 6.

Beefcake followed by a cycle of 3/5/1 PRs was one of the BEST programs I’ve run. I broke a LOT of personal records. Highly recommend it.

I’m eyeing @T3hPwnisher s hypertrophy gauntlet

BBB Beefcake, 6 weeks, deload
BtM (noticed the article says you can run it twice, but that’s not what pwn recommended. But, it’s something I might do)
Deep Water Beginner
Deep Water Intermediate

As my schedule has changed this is actually a viable layout for the foreseeable future.

I’m just waiting for my hamstring to heal up.

Or, I’ll just screw waiting. I did 2@120 today with plenty left to give if it weren’t for my hamstring. A while back I was doing 7@120 with a belt. Now I’d be comfortable doing that without a belt.

Basing my 1RM off of that I get something between 144-147 kg depending on the calculator. Let’s pick the lower one and a TM of 85%

TM=122.4

Then, four weeks from now (starting next week) I’d be squatting 5 reps @95% and that’s

116.28

Thr higher projection would have me squatting

118.70

So in either computational branch in reality we are talking 117.5 kg on the bar.

I don’t see that as unfeasible. I see it as highly likely. The only thing that I might not get as much out of initially is the unilateral work but that’ll catch up as the weeks go by. Ideal? No. And I’m not sure it’s worth waiting around for an ideal start-point. Like, for the unilateral work I could start with walking lunges and then eventually add weight and replace it with alternating lunges and eventually RFESS.

Does your gym have a sled? That might be easier on your hamstring, since it lacks an eccentric component.