Nordic Blood: Climbing And Lifting / Lifting And Climbing

2021-04-08

Deadlift day BBB. Did some full-body accessory stuff. Now that I have returned to climbing and spring is here I might go for a three-day full-body something for a while. Or at least have that as a fall back for weeks when I won’t make the time for four sessions.

Gotta make some handles like @T3hPwnisher has, or at least not start so far back from the weights if I keep this lift in rotation. Pwn, how do you attach yours? Couldn’t quite see from your video.

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They slide on top of the sleeves of the barbell. Here’s how to make them.

Warmer weather is when I usually start thinking about lifting three days per week because I like to spend more time outside.

Kinda random, but I dunno any other tea connoisseurs here – have you ever tried hojicha? I ordered matcha from a different seller (I’m so glad because the quality is outstandingly better) but also bought hojicha because it sounded nice and also helped score a discount.

How’s it going in the north? Taking a break or just not feeling like logging stuff?

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The latter. Life is good. Like, really. I feel that I’m Not able to appreciate it as much as I should. My brain is sometimes a friend and sometimes a foe, still. Went off my antidepressants because of joint pain but thinking about going back on. Pain subsided somewhat but not entirely.

Training has been sporadic but I’ve kept active. Trained with people. Not keen on trying to write down what afterwards or during.

Won’t log for some time I reckon.

How’s itgoing foryou?

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That’s great to hear.

Similar for me. Maybe less emphasis on the “really” but better than I am used to these last couple of weeks.

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That’s a shredded back

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that looks awesome

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Killer stance dude.

Looking solid dude

Anyone heard from our boy lately?

All good @Voxel buddy?

Good, nah. But around still. Thanks for checking in. I’ll reply to your email as soon as I have something more substantial than this to offer!

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Just glad to hear from you dude, no pressure at all.

Good to hear from you man. You have my email if you want anyone to talk to offline.

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Monday 2021-08-30

A. Front Squat (ss: ab-wheel)

Ramped to a 2 repper at 80

Notes: have to use straps on the bar because elbows and fingers are arse

B. RDL

3-4 sets of 8-10 at 80 — can’t really remember the sets or reps (logging the day after)

Notes: some pain during and after but less pain the day after than the day before

C. Hip-thrust

Same as above

D. GHR

3 “amrap” sets

Notes: Because of my mental state I find that I just cannot push as hard as I used to and this has been true for quite some time in the gym now. I often “fake myself out” or lose focus.


Trying to get back to training in a way that propels me forward and allows me to progress. In the past I used to find my stride after the first or second exercise but now I just feel sick and want to vomit and not in the good “I pushed myself hard” way but more “body putting brakes on me” way.

Haven’t logged in ages. At first my gym consistency took a benign decrease, from a 4-day upper/lower (lift-oriented) “split” to three whole-body workouts which would eventually get supplanted by a zero-day “split” (ha!) which at times was for benign reasons such as travelling but at other times has just been because I couldn’t find a meaningful way to interact with any iron without making something in my body react with pain or lead to imbalances down the line. There’s very little back work I can do without making the elbow more inflamed. Just holding a loaded bar without straps is adequate to hurt all over my forearm. And straight-arm pulldowns too (haven’t tried pull-overs yet)

I don’t think I’ve done a fantastic effort of maintaing the habit of purposeful training but I never became completely inactive at least. There was a time when I felt that the only thing I could resign to was ab-work, so I did, but in doing so I spent some time rolling up into a tuck-up which promptly burst a cyst on my tailbone (awaiting surgical removal).

During this year I’ve “healed” and “re-injured” my hamstring, my finger, and my elbows more time than I care to count. I fall in and out of being consistent with rehab. Philosophically, it’d pain me to in earnest suggest that I am motivated to fix these issues because arguably then they’d be fixed while at the same time I try to remain lenient with myself as I’ve had to re-live some past trauma, experience some new ones, have dealt (and continue to deal with) night terrors, and then there is the undereating that occasionally accompanies all this.

Climbing has been intermittent depending on what state my various overuse injuries are in. Some weeks 0 sessions. Other weeks 2-3.

Anyway, I’m back. Sometimes interacting with this community becomes unhealthy for me as I sometimes play a lite-version of the comparison game internally and diet and physique stuff can really send me for a spin. Not to mention, self-control with not obsessively reading everything but I want to give it one more go as I associate a lot of positive things with this place too.

I’d like to use my log to maybe get a little bit of guidance sometimes. I know clavicles are a forum meme, but I’m not joking (seriously) when I’ve discovered that mine are different lengths and there is a four centimeter disrepency. There was a time where I was capable of evaluating whether or not that is a meaningful difference with regards to barbell pressing but I don’t even have the energy to start removing that brain-rust. Anyone care to weigh in on if that is a meaningful difference? For reference, the side with the longer clavicle has given me consistent problems for the last four years so I imagine yes but there might be other things that are wrong there so it’s not immediately obvious if I should interpret that as “causation”.

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Glad to see you back.

Regarding your question: Every deviation from the “norm” (which is a construct at best anyway) is first and foremost just that: An anatomical variation and not in itself pathological at all.
Now if you experience issues that could be linked to the anatomical variation, you could look into it as one of the roots of the problem. In this case, if the deviation is bone length, there isn’t much anyone can do about that.

With the multitude of injuries you’re dealing with, I would like to direct your attention a little more towards pain physiologie in general.
Pain is always a product of the brain and nervous system. Which doesn’t mean that it’s ever “just imaginary”, in fact every pain described is real. However pain isn’t necessarily a sign of tissue damage (the reality is, in the vast majority of cases, it isn’t linked to tissue damage at all).
Now why does pain present itself then and more importantly: Why does pain persist?

We all know the guy who had a disc protrusion 15 years ago and therefore “has an aching back” or “needs to be careful not to round his back”. I can almost guarantee it has nothing to do with his disc protrusion.
Pain is always multifactorial. Maybe you have heard about the bio-psycho-social model that modern pain scientists use to explain persisting pain? Biological of course refers to tissue damage/ disease. Psycho to the psychological impact, the believes and expectations people carry towards the injury or disease they have (huge possibility of negative influence through healthcare providers here by using poor communication). This also includes catastrophisation, fears and the risk of chronification, which can be decreased or increased by healthcare providers (often times it is increased by using outdated bio- medical models to explain pain and injury). Social refers to the level of participation (hobbies, social activities and the like) that is impeded by the disability someone is experiencing.

So pain is a complex mechanism that is influenced by a variety of factors. Given your mental health status, the complexity of that mechanism can’t be ignored and I would be very careful to use reductionist explanations for any of the injuries you’re describing.

Now before we get to meta or whatever, orthopedic injuries can be explained simpler as well. Often times a structure is asked to do more than it is ready to deliver. The nervous system detects the overuse of that structure (within the system that is producing a certain movement for example) and labels it a potential tissue damage. As a protective mechanism, it will increase sensitivity of the area (pain), decrease rom of nearby structures to limit more stress on the already overused area.
What one has to do as a therapist here is to first adjust the activity level to a manageable level (manageable for the current episode of the patient) and then work on making the structure in question more resilient for future demands. So in short: Match resilience to stress.

Since I’ve already mentioned the importance of the nervous system for most simple injuries, you’re probably sensing my point. You’re at higher risk of experiencing these phenomenons due to the state you’re nervous system is in.

What’s my point here? Education. The more one understands about these processes, the lower the risk for chronification and future injuries in my book. You’re body is highly adaptable and not fragile at all.

This is a very short overview of a highly complex topic. I can elaborate on certain points if wanted/ needed but I don’t have the audacity to think I understand all aspects at play (not by a long shot).

@j4gga2 anything I missed/ you would disagree on fundamentally?

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You know what crossed my mind a few months ago again and again and made me chuckle in consequence? How when I joined Tnation and a few years later I would get into discussions with @T3hPwnisher about injuries, form and the like. While I always respected his opinion, I couldn’t comprehend it because it challenged my own bias too much (which was influenced by the whole functional training bullshit and bio-medical explanations for injuries). Nowadays I realize how far ahead he actually was, although I don’t know how intentional, when it came to injury management and especially the mindset that came with it.

Sorry for the derail but I’ve had that amusing thought of self reflection for some time now.

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Glad to see you back!
Sorry to hear what you’ve had to go through. I sincerely hope everything is on the upswing.
I wish I could be more helpful

I get it.

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