It’s delayed until after running (otherwise I would’ve stopped). I had time to get home and unpack my groceries and start cooking before the onset of the pain. So, neither?
Okay that makes it harder. What do we have so far for things that trigger it? Is the pain always delayed or is there anything that can trigger it instantly?
Deadlifts are a pretty solid agitator. And heel hooks. I still don’t have a trap-bar, gym cancelled the order because of the pandemic,but I think I could maybe do trap-bar deads without agitation. I’d use the farmer handles if they didn’t demand special collars that take forever. I’ll try and see if I can visit a gym with one but I’m operating off of a memory from earlier this year when I mention that as a maybe.
Not sure what heel hooks are. They have something to do with climbing.
So hip extension and the more upright, the lesss painful (trap bar)?
Have you considered doing another overhead variation on what would be the bench day, since it seems you have no way to work around the pain? Could try push press or Z-press. Don’t know all of the equipment accessible to you. Maybe try to work in push ups or dips on assistance gradually over time.
Certainly have! A push press vote is most welcome though as it is an awesome lift!
And Z-press too!
It would be interesting to know if a muscle function test for both or either hip extension (with and without hamstring involvement) as well as knee flexion can trigger pain.
If not and that is purely a subjective hypothesis of mine, that would mean that the stretch or loading in a stretched position triggers the pain. 
Muscle function tests are easy to perform and semi easy to interpret but you need a second person.
Sorry, missed that bit. But yeah, I think that could be a good strategy. Who knows, maybe your horizontal pressing would benefit from this
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I’ll remember to get back to you after my appointment
Yeah, gonna try dips first as muscle-ups were fine but wouldn’t mind building towards a bodyweight press overhead
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Squats, ring muscle-ups, 100 lunges, jogging???
Beware, this is all looking very Crossfitty and athletic!
How much leg work are you doing? From my climbing days, I did not want heavy legs. Lots of vertical and horizontal pulling, and grip work seemed to pay off the most, but nothing compared to being light, ripped and lots of actual practice climbing.
2-3 times per week. My legs aren’t really, as far as I can tell, eating into my climbing ability. Oftentimes I find them to be my strength. I’m hoping to make it through another couple of decades and what I do in those years I expect to derive some enjoyment of having strong legs too.
That being said, legs are maybe my best feature at the moment so to balance out I could probably sketch out a PPL thing aligned with where I’m aiming to go currently.
Enjoying what I’m doing now though so I won’t be too quick to hop the bandwagon
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Haha, don’t scare me
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Thought this was a typo of BBB but no! 10 x 5 is a hell lot of work damn. And a lot of muscle-ups
Damn, do you have abs of steel?
Yeah your training looks sexy. Stay on track! I couldn’t sleep again last night and spend more than one hour in my bed devising in my head some program I would do, doing my own programming and techniques, and I was excited about the thought of doing it. Sometimes I think we’re crazy
Nah, point your legs straight up in the air and it becomes a bodyweight 45 degree bent over row. In the air.
I’ve had that happen. I’ll write down the keynotes at most, or go to the couch and fall asleep to Netflix. If I’m relaxing (like when going to bed) I have a rule: only think about the present, not the future. This makes me focus on my breathing, and after a while I fall asleep. And I can’t speak for you but yeah, when I end up planning training it’s just crazy.
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I’ve written so many programs no-one will ever do. Something about the neatness and elegance of a thoroughly thought out program is awesome.
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I’m starting to swing around to it not mattering as much. Starting to see the appeal in imbalanced program (and then establishing balance between programs) and autoregulation. So, conjugate has been looking appealing. Maxing out on a movement that feels doable that day, fuck yes. The only problem is dynamic/light/repetitive day. Doesn’t seem nearly as fun.
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You’re right, that’s probably more effective. But less fun to program.
I’m a massive nerd, I enjoy over thought and overwrought programming.
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