Nordic Blood: Climbing And Lifting / Lifting And Climbing

Friday 2020-11-06

Exercise Set Reps Weight Rest Notes
A. Deadlift -7 10 Bar RDL
-6 8 60 RDL
-5 8 90 RDL
-4 6 120
-3 6 130
-2 4 140
-1 4 150
0 1 160
1 4 140 120-150s
2 4 140
3 4 140
B1. Deficit Deadlift 1 6 110
2 6 110
3 6 110
4 8 110
B2. Ring Ab Roll-out 1 10 bw
2 10 bw
3 10 bw
4 5 bw
C1. Snatch-grip High Pull (Hang) 1 5 60
2 5 70
3 3 80
C2. Seated L-hold 1 ALAS Sprinkled in some moves to bottom HSPU too
2 ALAS
3 ALAS
D1. Hip Thrust 1 8 80
2 8 80
3 8 80
D2. Straight Arm Pull-down 1 20 15
2 20 15
3 20 15
Exercise Sets & Reps
E1. Lying Leg Curl 3x12
E2. Leg Extension (one leg at a time) 3x12

The whatever it is in my hamstring is really limiting me on deadlifts. Hoping this single at ā€œ90%ā€ (160kg) keeps me from regressing.

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ooops

Wanted to reply that it was nice to see you post your workouts again and I just post mine ahahah

Do you really think you’llr egress after all these deficit deads, hip thrust, high pulls leg curls and 90% work? No you won’t!

That’s a fat, long session, and it seems to me that’s a lot of good work and weight for someone who’s doubting himself. Why straight-arms pulldown if I may ask?

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No, I don’t think so - I’m hoping I won’t.

It was a good session. The bench session before was even more on point. This needs a little tweaking. Not sure what I’m not happy with.

You may, one reason is that there are suitable cables at both ends of where the platforms are in my gym so its available often enough for me to sketch out the session. Second, a decent way to hit my lats without stressing my elbow. Third decent MMC. Fourth lever carry-over. Fifth I don’t activate my lats too well during deadlifts I’m hoping this’ll help.

And, sixth, leaning forward yields free ab work.

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Ahah we always want to find something wrong. But no, sometimes we can have good days and progress!

Oh yes, I was thinking about the reason 5 for this specific session. It’s an exercise I love personally

FWIW your lats might be too active given your bloody shins. At some point that has to create enough friction for your lift to not be as efficient.

No they aren’t if you look at recent vids, as well as personal feelings when I know the bar is moving away sometimes. Just wrong mental cues. I have worked on it. Probably too low of hips and for sure not enough sitting back in my hammies and taking the slack hard enough

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You have a good understanding of nutrition and how these things work.
What you’re seeing in the mirror right now is a point in time reflection, not more or less. It doesn’t mean more or less than what you’re making it out to be.

I have about no knowledge at all of what you’re going through. I just want to say you’re a strong person for taking on the fight. All the best mate.

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These are good mantra words.

Neither do I as it seems to develop further and further :thinking: used to be standard orthorexia. Now :woman_shrugging: Example: I woke up from a dream where I was eating candy nonstop for quite some time and when I woke up I was getting ready to rush to the bathroom to stick my fingers down my throat. I didn’t, obviously. But it’s not ideal that that sequence of events could even transpire. Or that that was my subconscious reaction.

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It irks me that bro-science is such a cuss word in the new sub-forum.

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An amazing bit of Jekyll and Hyde considering the new sub-forum replaced the Paul Carter one, where bro science was celebrated.

Bro Science was pretty awesome when it was coming from the Golden Era guys like Arnold, Vince G, LaLanne, Grimek, and everyone else with an amazing physique and strength to match.

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I’ll admit that it’s possible my interpretation is off but casually browsing it has become my understanding that when the term bro-science is used there it doesn’t mean ā€œthing that works because resultsā€ but also seemingly contains not only dissenting views but also dissenting views supported by other studies.

These call-outs seem to be sidestepped with ā€œwhat about health?ā€ but I don’t want to spend the time there arguing. I have respect for T-nation. They’ve been friendly to me, and amenable. I don’t want to make that sub-forum less of an enjoyment to them by being there debating. They seem content with what they are doing so I’m happy to leave them be.

But I just had to vent that I don’t like how ā€œbro-scienceā€ or to use another term ā€œempirical evidenceā€ is somehow a bad thing.

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Concur in all parts. I’m not going to tell someone they’re lifting weights wrong. That’s just dumb. But it’s also dumb to discount demonstrable effects simply because there isn’t yet an academic study that confirms what we already know.

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Saturday 2020-11-07

Rest But helped a mate move which might not have done my elbow a lot of favours

Sunday 2020-11-08

AM

Exercise Set Reps Weight Rest
A. Press -6 10 Bar
-5 8 30
-4 6 35
-3 6 40
-2 4 42
-1 4 45
0 1-2 50
1 6 40 3-5
2 6 40
3 6 40
B1. Pull-up 1 6 60 ?
2 6 60
3 6 60
4 5
5 5
B2. Push Press 1 6 50 ?
2 6 50
3 5 50 hit chin
4 6 50
C1. Dips 1 5 bw+20 90s between antagonist exercise
2 5 bw+20
3 5 bw+20
4 5 bw+20
5 5 bw+20
C2. DB Row 1 8 32
alternating arms 2 8 32
between dip sets 3 8 32

If I let the straps do all the work on holding the DB these movements were fine. But, I’m thinking about dialing back (no pun intended) on back work even more until my elbow feels fine but reading up on it it seems as if recovery is months long so might be worth continuing to seek movements that are not making things worse primarily.

Being as disciplined as I can with my Theraband Flexbar, Voodoo Floss and massaging. Going to seek out an acupuncturist too, maybe. Is acupunture worthwhile for tendonitis (elbow) @j4gga2?

PM

Climbing, nice easy session. Mostly trying to coach a friend whom incidentally needs no coaching and just needs to be more sure of herself. Got her to climb two grades higher than her previous best in a single two hour session.

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When I had my first bout of elbow tendonitis I wound up taking a good bit of time off from any traditional pulling movements as simply dialing back wasn’t doing anything in terms of recovery.

I wound up using bands as my only source of back work by looping the band around my wrist and doing rows/pulldowns that way. I’d really focus on trying to get the muscle to cramp up in that contracted position. I think it was a solid maintenance approach that allowed my elbow enough lee-way with a manual labor job to get back on the right track.

If your gym has cable machines you may be able to do something similar with wrist cuffs and have an even better experience.

I recently listened to a table talk podcast with JM Blakely in which he stated he used this approach to train triceps without tendon stress as the entire session is only 6 reps. It may be an approach that could be used for other muscle groups too.

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Cool idea! My elbow has been feeling better though. I tend to evaluate the day after pulling if I can or cannot do something. Barbell rows for instance are fine, they don’t aggregate my symptoms in the present or after.

Primarily, unless my ring finger and pinky finger are participating intensely with gripping and I don’t accidentally curl at the wrist I’m good. And a barbell curl would be murder.

Also going to experiment with fat gripz.

However, if my healing seems to revert I will explore. At the moment I’m happy that I’ve found some safe movements (seemingly).

Climbing is by far the riskiest. Overhead side pulls on funky grips that demand cocking back the wrist are an instantaneous set back. Fortunately I can read this from the ground indoors most of the time.

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Will watch when I’m not on my phone, thank you

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The explanation for why is somewhere in the middle of the second JM Blakely Table Talk if you’d like to hear the rationale

Tried something new

Supersetted ab-stuff and leg curls/extensions. 6 sets of 10 for squats. Would make you think Dan John designed it.

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My friend are you welcoming hypertrophy in its veiny and large embrace?

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