You and me both bubba. Sending 7b/7c with ease while being a strong mofo? And happy to have a beer at the crag without getting mind demons? I used to aim for bigger, but I can start just going for a slightly heavier Kleinhound aesthetic (as I’m taller)
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There’s presumably a weight I’ll settle into while being happy in many respects, that has to be the goal now I think. 
I can sympathise to an extent. My goals and end vision can sometimes feel a bit nebulous. Luckily for me, the majority of my goals are in the process, not the result.
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My thoughts resonate with that mindset a lot. Joinking that for further use.
Happy seems like a good goal. Dan John has expressed his life goals as “Healthy, Wealthy and Wise”. I would probably sub happy for wealthy, as I’m not too interested in wealth beyond a basic level.
I think the pursuit for happiness is a great way to become unhappy. That’s one of my more pessimistic opinions. But for me happy in this sense means… “not unhappy”. Preferably, I want to be at a place where I just don’t care what I weigh unless someone asks when belaying to ensure there’s not too big a difference. And ideally my response is an estimate rather than a super-recent number from the scale.
Ideally, I’m not trying to grab my back flab (cuz it’s just loose skin anyway, at least that’s what I hope) every now and then to “gauge” where I’m at either.
Pursuit of contentness!!!
It’s something I’ve heard you express before, and fundamentally disagree with, although I’m also aware that there’s probably a lot of nuance in what we’re both trying to say that’s getting lost
Probably, we should discuss it in person post-pandemic. Right now I’m not in the right frame of mind to do it in text.
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You ok?
I don’t know why bit I thought about this the other day as well.
You, @voxel , stated that your goal is to get to 90+ kg eventually to be able to carry people as a firefighter. I dig that logic because you need to be strong and at the same time enduring at that job. At your height, 90-95 is probably right on the money.
On the other hand stands your love for climbing, which directly benefits from being as light as possible.
Then over all of this we have your complicated relationship with food, to put it mildly.
Can you give us an update on your approach of how you’re currently planning to go about this? It’s really interesting, is basically what I’m saying.
Okay that was unorganized.
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Oh yeah, totally. I just want to shower and not get into something deep and fundamental and would prefer Netflix at this point before crushing some pre-bed calories.
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@Koestrizer did you delete your post because it was addressed to @dagill2? Because I’d be happy to reply to it.
I very much relate to that. Which tells us where this view comes from, eh?
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Nah I ultimately wasn’t sure it was the right thing to ask at this minute after reading your’s and @dagill2 exchange
It’s perfectly fine. It’s far less “deep”, post it anew and I’ll address it before having my shower.
Okay, reverted the deleting.
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This is a very good point to bring up. I have settled into this, I’m semi-concerned that my career change ambitions is a knee-jerk reaction to me in effect burning out this year. To not be hasty with anything life-changing I’ve opted to apply next autumn instead of this one if the ambition remains. Truly, the most important part for me lies in purpose. I might find that somewhere else.
Postulate a year from now I’m starting to settle down with a nice lass, I might feel as if I see greater purpose in continuing to make bonkers amount of money and provide for my future family as opposed to addressing my own career needs. Or, the desire is no longer present.
I am going to gain weight, but between where I’m at now, and 90-95 kilos there are a lot of checkpoints. It’s like with people worried they are going to get too bulky in a month. That just won’t happen. I don’t think I need to be at that weight for the trials next year, but I’m shooting for at least 86. I want to be there for a while, even with climbing.
As far as my complicated relationship with food goes, I ended up being broke these last few weeks so while tracking calories was an option I just didn’t have the energy so I ate more intuitively and I more or less maintained my weight, here’s this month’s weight graph:
For convenience, I’d like to employ the strategy I posted in Anna’s log which is that I’ll eat 3k on training days and 2.5k on other days and re-evaluate after some time while allowing weekends to be played by ear. I really want to get back to baking (this weekend will, again, not lend itself well to this activity so I’ll start a new sourdough next week).
If I’m gaining weight on that, great. Otherwise, I’ll up my calories. But right now, this week, I have to finish all the left-over tacos from my birthday party.
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I’ll reply later buddy.
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Have fun. Isa bit change so excited to see how it goes
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I’d also like to add a thought from this morning.
Tracking my calories, and learning about nutrition has taught me a lot about the human body. Long before this, and the complex relationship I now have with food, I spent over a decade with a very upset digestive system — essentially throughout my entire teens.
And, I’ll continue to argue that if someone wants to eat a varied but clean diet then tracking is a useful tool to ensure that they are indeed getting enough calories in, unless they have a somewhat formulaic idea about at least getting a serving of nuts, a serving of avocado, some number of tablespoons of oil, etc. that they apply daily.
Further, it remains a useful diagnostic tool when people want to go up/down in weight as most people aren’t super-mindful of what it is that they eat. It’s borderline essential when someone asks for help with their diet that they’re able to post it up for analysis.
I know there are people that can manipulate their weight entirely through intuition (lose weight, be somewhat hungry / gain weight, be somewhat uncomfortably full) as well as there are people that can track their calories for decades without ever devolving into something disorderly. But, going ahead, if I ever hear a friend that sets out to track their intake I’ll suggest that they take at least one week off tracking every month/bi-monthly unless they have a deadline and are really deadset and wouldn’t listen anyway.