I read an article that talked about the benifits of using nolvadex instead of clomid during PCT. He said that he preffered nolva and to use it the same way you would clomid. The author claims nolva is the superior drug, one of the reasons is it elevates HDLs. Thoughts?
[quote]Jersey5150 wrote:
I read an article that talked about the benifits of using nolvadex instead of clomid during PCT. He said that he preffered nolva and to use it the same way you would clomid. The author claims nolva is the superior drug, one of the reasons is it elevates HDLs. Thoughts?[/quote]
Nolva is a better gyno preventative and clomid may be slightly better at LH recovery. I use nolva cause I get clomid sides. Nolva does give the benefit of hdl improvement too. Some guys will use both, some use nolva while on and clomid to come off. At the end of the day you have to find what works for you. Personally, I would try each one at different times to see what happens. I have found nolva seems to help me recover and prevent gyno so it’s the one I choose
Nolvadex reportedly has a stronger affinity to the estrogen receptor than clomid does. This blocks the negative estrogen feedback that would delay recovery, and stimulates the release of Gnrh, which then signals the release of LH (if i can recall my first year bio class). Basically, it works good for recovery too. It’s my drug of choice for this purpose and it works just fine. A good PCT with just nolvadex is 2 weeks of 40mg/day, followed by 2 weeks of 20mg/day once your system is sufficiently clear for recovery.
Chemically clomid and nolvadex are very, very similar.
Nolva is a better at preventing gyno simply because it has a higher affinity for the ER and does not cause gene transcription in breast tissues. It has also been shown to have a sensitising effect to GnRH on the pituitary and hypothalamus. However, chronic adminsitration leads to azoospermia (poor sperm motility) which is quite persistent.
Nolvadex can make one moody (depression, PMS-like symptoms), as can clomid. Clomid can cause visual aberrations like scintillations, etc.
They both work… though my choice is Nolva.
Why don’t you think about Femara if you can afford it.
I’ve always used clomid for PCT but I will use Nolvadex from now on as I kept getting visuals and blurry vision. This could of course be lethal while driving.
Plus I did get quite ‘emotional’ and ratty on the stuff. Didn’t like that at all.
Ok…newbie question. Done a few low dose cycles of various before…no side effects to complain about…
I just finished a higher dosage cycle of test. en. and win v inj. I took no estr. blockers while on it (stupid cause i didnt get bad side effects before). Anyways, about the last week on the test I started developing some pretty nasty acne on my arms…I have been off the test about 3 or 4 weeks. Since then, the acne has gotten worse, spread to my shoulders and back. All that to ask this…is it too late to get Nov. or clomid to help regulate these side effects? I live in S.A. so I can walk in a pharmacy and buy it today if so.
And if so, what should I take this late out.
If not, when can I expect these side effects to start to diminish?
Thanks for any advice.
MatRat
if the acne is really bad,go and buy Roaccutan(accutane)!!!its expensive but its the best.it probaply wont go away itself.even if youve stopped using T.
or you can get some Antibiotics too for it.but the bad thing about them is that the more you use them,less effective they become.propably after fourth of
fifth time they become useless.
2x20mg a day.ive used Roaccutan meny times its got some side effects,but they usually are worth it.
MatRat,
I don't think nolvadex or clomid will really help control your acne. You will probably need something seperate for that.
I use alcohol swabs a couple of times a day on problem areas during cycles and that seems to help quite a bit. They are really cheap, portable, and remove excess dirt and oil well.
Your acne is being caused by fluctuations in your androgen levels. Most people break out at least a bit when they come off steroids because there is a fairly sudden drop in androgenic hormones in their bodies, then another spike when natural testosterone starts being produced again. Your acne is going to persist for a couple months likely. A high dose of vitamin b5 on a daily basis has worked well for me in the past at clearing it up. To keep acne down during cycle, try to keep as stable a hormone level as possible in your body by administering smaller doses of the drug more frequently. However, for the post cycle break out you can either wait for it to work itself out or go see a dermatologist.
JP