Weeks1-15—TestE-500 mg
Weeks1-3—testP-300-400mg
Weeks1-12—EQ- 200mg
Weeks17-19—nolvadex 20mg everyday
I have enough nolvadex to take 20-40mg like once a week during the cycle. If I did that would it be ok or hurt the cycle in any way??
EQ too low
Arimidex while on, Nolva for PCT
4 week PCT 40/40/20/20
[quote]tjweirich wrote:
Weeks1-15—TestE-500 mg
Weeks1-3—testP-300-400mg
Weeks1-12—EQ- 200mg
Weeks17-19—nolvadex 20mg everyday
I have enough nolvadex to take 20-40mg like once a week during the cycle. If I did that would it be ok or hurt the cycle in any way??[/quote]
i like the test prop front load there…
i’d scrap the EQ, as most folks don’t see much difference with it with test. if you do need to run it, 200 mg is too low… 400-600 is much more common.
i’d start PCT in week 16… test e’s half life has been drastically over-exaggerated, due to some weird chart that was circulating around a while back.
why do you want to take Nolva during the cycle? for it to have a pseudo-HCG effect?
Yeah I guess one of my buddies did it and he has done a few cycles and he said it made a difference… The front load is I think ideal, thanks and the EQ is just more of a joint relief
I’d wait 2 weeks to start pct.
Nolva not the best way but if you can get arimidex your much better off. Besides once a week wouldn’t be enough.
EQ is low unless your just running for your joints. I kinda didn’t care for EQ but right now I’m running it at 800mg a week and with a gram a test a week it’s not too bad
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I’d wait 2 weeks to start pct.
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why?
in looking at the actual pharmacology of test e, the half-life is 4.5 days. (reference is Pharmacology of testosterone preparations H.M. Behre, C. Wang, D.J. Handelsman and E. Nieschlag)
You want your levels to drop almost to a normal level. Waiting only a week isn’t long enough IMO
[quote]tjweirich wrote:
Yeah I guess one of my buddies did it and he has done a few cycles and he said it made a difference… The front load is I think ideal, thanks and the EQ is just more of a joint relief [/quote]
well, i think the EQ makes sense for how you’re using it… with that being said, i presume you have joint issues? if so, you’re gonna want to be very conservative with AI doses…
i’ve never used tamoxifen on cycle, so i can’t personally say on it’s effectiveness. i could see it might have an effect the same way HCG does, but i question how effective a single dose administration is…
[quote]BUDs wrote:
You want your levels to drop almost to a normal level. Waiting only a week isn’t long enough IMO [/quote]
the half-life of test e is 4.5 days, not 10 days.
please check my reference…
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
You want your levels to drop almost to a normal level. Waiting only a week isn’t long enough IMO [/quote]
the half-life of test e is 4.5 days, not 10 days.
please check my reference…[/quote]
i always wondered why people used test e/cyp 2-3 times a week, yet claimed it had a 10/14 day half life… it really makes no sense. if it was that long, an injection once a week would make way more sense…
I know what the half life is. Doesn’t mean 500mg of test will be completely gone in 4.5 days, roughly half will be gone based on the persons and their metabolism.
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
You want your levels to drop almost to a normal level. Waiting only a week isn’t long enough IMO [/quote]
the half-life of test e is 4.5 days, not 10 days.
please check my reference…[/quote]
i always wondered why people used test e/cyp 2-3 times a week, yet claimed it had a 10/14 day half life… it really makes no sense. if it was that long, an injection once a week would make way more sense…[/quote]
Less peaks and valleys
[quote]BUDs wrote:
I know what the half life is. Doesn’t mean 500mg of test will be completely gone in 4.5 days, roughly half will be gone based on the persons and their metabolism.[/quote]
in 12 days it’s back to baseline.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
You want your levels to drop almost to a normal level. Waiting only a week isn’t long enough IMO [/quote]
the half-life of test e is 4.5 days, not 10 days.
please check my reference…[/quote]
i always wondered why people used test e/cyp 2-3 times a week, yet claimed it had a 10/14 day half life… it really makes no sense. if it was that long, an injection once a week would make way more sense…[/quote]
Less peaks and valleys[/quote]
right… because the half-life is much faster than people claim that it is.
And that’s when you want to start pct. you don’t want suppressive levels of testosterone on your body when you start pct
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
You want your levels to drop almost to a normal level. Waiting only a week isn’t long enough IMO [/quote]
the half-life of test e is 4.5 days, not 10 days.
please check my reference…[/quote]
i always wondered why people used test e/cyp 2-3 times a week, yet claimed it had a 10/14 day half life… it really makes no sense. if it was that long, an injection once a week would make way more sense…[/quote]
Less peaks and valleys[/quote]
right… because the half-life is much faster than people claim that it is.
[/quote]
True I agree
[quote]BUDs wrote:
And that’s when you want to start pct. you don’t want suppressive levels of testosterone on your body when you start pct[/quote]
i agree with ya… but based off this, if i shoot Sun-Wed (for example), then this would clear well before starting PCT. however, most SERMs have a rather long half-life (3-4 days, other than Raloxifene). so starting PCT early by 2 days is prolly better than waiting an extra 5 days, IMO.
I get what you’re saying.
But based on a persons metabolism one may need more time
[quote]BUDs wrote:
But based on a persons metabolism one may need more time[/quote]
i suppose we need to agree to disagree…