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[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
so… 38 points 7 assists against the 4th stingiest ppg defense, 20 points in the second half after they started doubling him off the pick and roll. JLin had a pretty good game no? I can’t remember the last time a Knick game was this fun to watch.
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He was matched up against a 38yr old.

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oh and throw some more weight on the bar! did you switch grips like halfway through?[/quote]

Yeah I start with left hand suppinated, right hand overhand, because it’s my weaker grip… I challenge my grip strength and go till it is close to giving out, then I switch up and go right hand suppinated to finish it off.

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SOMEONE TOLD ME I dammit new phone didn’t mean to yell. Someone told me I should do double overhand grip for as many sets as possible before I switched to mix grip. Before that I was just alternating which had was over on a set by set basis. IDK I’m not liking the double overhsnd at all. I feel like my grip strength should be as little of a factor as possible. I recently discovered the person that told me this is possibly insane. I’m hoping that means I can stop using the double overhsnd grip altogether.

What say you mens?

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[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
so… 38 points 7 assists against the 4th stingiest ppg defense, 20 points in the second half after they started doubling him off the pick and roll. JLin had a pretty good game no? I can’t remember the last time a Knick game was this fun to watch.
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He was matched up against a 38yr old. [/quote]

yea but Fisher is as crafty and sneaky as a 38 yr old pg can get, and where were the Laker bigs to close out the lane? JLin got Bynum all turned around on one drive and got fouled, and I thought Bynum could’ve swatted him easy.

… sounds like a personal problem?

764

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
SOMEONE TOLD ME I dammit new phone didn’t mean to yell. Someone told me I should do double overhand grip for as many sets as possible before I switched to mix grip. Before that I was just alternating which had was over on a set by set basis. IDK I’m not liking the double overhsnd at all. I feel like my grip strength should be as little of a factor as possible. I recently discovered the person that told me this is possibly insane. I’m hoping that means I can stop using the double overhsnd grip altogether.

What say you mens?[/quote]

tomato tomahto

some people say never use mixed grip so you can better avoid the possibility of a bicep tear. even though all you really have to do is keep your triceps flexed, if you get amped up for a 1RM it’s easy to forget that (I’m the idiot who forgot, and strained his right bicep). but mixed grip always felt like it added significantly to my grip strength, even compared to a double overhand hook grip.

if grip is really a limiting factor, use straps.

765

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
SOMEONE TOLD ME I dammit new phone didn’t mean to yell. Someone told me I should do double overhand grip for as many sets as possible before I switched to mix grip. Before that I was just alternating which had was over on a set by set basis. IDK I’m not liking the double overhsnd at all. I feel like my grip strength should be as little of a factor as possible. I recently discovered the person that told me this is possibly insane. I’m hoping that means I can stop using the double overhsnd grip altogether.

What say you mens?[/quote]

I use double overhand until I have to go to mixed. I read CT saying it’s a good way to increase grip strength. Don’t know how much it matters but seems halfway logical.

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
SOMEONE TOLD ME I dammit new phone didn’t mean to yell. Someone told me I should do double overhand grip for as many sets as possible before I switched to mix grip. Before that I was just alternating which had was over on a set by set basis. IDK I’m not liking the double overhsnd at all. I feel like my grip strength should be as little of a factor as possible. I recently discovered the person that told me this is possibly insane. I’m hoping that means I can stop using the double overhsnd grip altogether.

What say you mens?[/quote]

tomato tomahto

some people say never use mixed grip so you can better avoid the possibility of a bicep tear. even though all you really have to do is keep your triceps flexed, if you get amped up for a 1RM it’s easy to forget that (I’m the idiot who forgot, and strained his right bicep). but mixed grip always felt like it added significantly to my grip strength, even compared to a double overhand hook grip.

if grip is really a limiting factor, use straps.
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Mixed grip is much stronger than double overhand. If you ever want to pull heavy weight you have to use mixed grip or straps. I suppose if you are never going to compete in PLing, using straps is fine. I hate them because it takes me totally out of my setup routine.

Also, mixed grip + chalk is virtually as strong as straps. Chalk makes the bar stick to your hand like velcro.

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I personally always use a mixed grip, even for my lightest warmup set. I think it is important to ingrain the pattern as much as possible the way you intend to pull in a competition. What is the saying? That you have to do something 1,000 times to become proficient at it, and 10,000 times to become an expert? Always using your competition grip cuts that time down considerably.

767

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
SOMEONE TOLD ME I dammit new phone didn’t mean to yell. Someone told me I should do double overhand grip for as many sets as possible before I switched to mix grip. Before that I was just alternating which had was over on a set by set basis. IDK I’m not liking the double overhsnd at all. I feel like my grip strength should be as little of a factor as possible. I recently discovered the person that told me this is possibly insane. I’m hoping that means I can stop using the double overhsnd grip altogether.

What say you mens?[/quote]

I use double overhand until I have to go to mixed. I read CT saying it’s a good way to increase grip strength. Don’t know how much it matters but seems halfway logical. [/quote]

sounds like the same train of thought as the Mechanical Drop Set, or using more advantageous leverages/grips/positions as you tire in your initial setup.

768

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Nowai. Way too soon for some huge sweeping gesture like that. Can’t be scarin 'em off like that, ya dig?.[/quote]

Agreed! That would be a sure fire way to get me to run the opposite direction. Getting dinner cooked for me at home though? Guaranteed blowie. looks like Hall and I are on the same gift giving track.

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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
I personally always use a mixed grip, even for my lightest warmup set. I think it is important to ingrain the pattern as much as possible the way you intend to pull in a competition. What is the saying? That you have to do something 1,000 times to become proficient at it, and 10,000 times to become an expert? Always using your competition grip cuts that time down considerably.[/quote]

I will probably never compete PL but I’m gonna take this and run with it

Tis perfect.
Sankyou.

770

I feel your pain, I hate planning foods.

I need to start logging mine too.

771

Holy log explosion!

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
I personally always use a mixed grip, even for my lightest warmup set. I think it is important to ingrain the pattern as much as possible the way you intend to pull in a competition. What is the saying? That you have to do something 1,000 times to become proficient at it, and 10,000 times to become an expert? Always using your competition grip cuts that time down considerably.[/quote]

I guess, but we aren’t talking about an entirely different movement just because you flip one hand around. I would say deadlifting under 300 on a warmup set feels radically different than a heavy 1RM regardless of how you grip.

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
SOMEONE TOLD ME I dammit new phone didn’t mean to yell. Someone told me I should do double overhand grip for as many sets as possible before I switched to mix grip. Before that I was just alternating which had was over on a set by set basis. IDK I’m not liking the double overhsnd at all. I feel like my grip strength should be as little of a factor as possible. I recently discovered the person that told me this is possibly insane. I’m hoping that means I can stop using the double overhsnd grip altogether.

What say you mens?[/quote]

I use double overhand until I have to go to mixed. I read CT saying it’s a good way to increase grip strength. Don’t know how much it matters but seems halfway logical. [/quote]

sounds like the same train of thought as the Mechanical Drop Set, or using more advantageous leverages/grips/positions as you tire in your initial setup.
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Well you are working grip strength more at the cost of not ingraining a pattern like VT said… different strokes.

[quote]cholulalula wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Nowai. Way too soon for some huge sweeping gesture like that. Can’t be scarin 'em off like that, ya dig?.[/quote]

Agreed! That would be a sure fire way to get me to run the opposite direction. Getting dinner cooked for me at home though? Guaranteed blowie. looks like Hall and I are on the same gift giving track.[/quote]

Ok, see this is what we guys are dealing with. Between two of you, one says work flowers are mandatory and the other says hell no. You wonder why guys are so confused all the time? Develop one goddamn set of criteria you can all agree with and we’ll be good!

[quote]Hallowed wrote:

I will probably never compete PL but I’m gonna take this and run with it

Tis perfect.
Sankyou.[/quote]

I hate to see you go but I love to watch you leave!

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
I feel your pain, I hate planning foods.

I need to start logging mine too. [/quote]

Get on that shit then. No excuses play like a champion!

(would be more serious if I wasn’t about to get burger king for lunch)

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mmm, pink slime for lunch.

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5/3/1 Week 1 Day 1 (Squat)

Changing around lower/upper days just for this week. Felt weird to squat on a Monday. I have a real hard time getting any adrenaline on Mondays for some reason, even though I ate and slept fine yesterday.

Got superdrunk on Saturday night and woke up Sunday with a tweaked mid-back. I think I slept wrong or something, but it was annoying me all day today.

Slightly good news on my blood pressure… the bottom number (which my doc told me is more important) has gone down almost 10pts. I think it’s mostly due to taking CoQ10 but I am trying like 5 things simultaneously so it could be any/all of it. Top number is still 145-150 though which is too high.

Workout
Foam rolling

A) Squat
125 x 5
160 x 5
190 x 3
-work sets-
220 x 3
250 x 3
285(3+ ) x 7 PR Didn’t realize till my top set that the bar was fucking crooked. I had to keep unracking/re-racking it because it was rolling down my back. Took 3 times until I was holding it the “right” way, I should have re-racked it and waited a min or so because I totally lost my tightness and intensity.

Also, I think I cut a couple reps too high, so you can D/Q my Pr if you want. I recorded and will let y’all judge when I upload later since I suck at judging myself. I need to stop descending so slow, I am taking the stretch reflex totally out of my squat.

B) Good Mornings… finally felt em good in the low back
95 x 10
115 x 10
125 x 10

C) Leg Press
5pps x 12
6pps x 11
6pps x 11

D) Shrugs
225 x 10
225 x 10
…remembered I am doing OHP tomorrow so stopped. whoops.

Cardio
25mins elliptical

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
mmm, pink slime for lunch.[/quote]

SO. GOOD.

edit: just wanted to point out that, for the first time, my head felt like it was gonna asplode squatting. By rep#4.

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I give them all white lights (#5 was close) but fuck man, get set up underneath the bar before you try to unrack it! You dropped your chest like woah

776

nice squats

what did you do differently for GM’s?

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5/3/1 Week 2 Day 2 (OHP)

^pic of the retarded weight belt they have at the Gold’s I went to. Not adjustable, it was a good six inches off me. Thank god my big man-ass gave it a shelf to rest on or I would’ve been stuck with bodyweight dips.

Decent day. My left arm feels pretty beat up, hope I didn’t mess up a tendon or something.

Workout
A) Standing OHP
75 x 5
95 x 5
115 x 3
-work sets-
135 x 3
150 x 3
170(3+ ) x 6 → last rep was the slowest I have ever completed a rep in OHP. Completely fried my tris and set me up for failure on dips…

B) T-Bar Rows - stopped trying to feel these so hard in a specific part of my back and just rowed heavy weight using every back muscle possible, as god intended
2p x 10
3p x 10
3p,25lb x 8
3p,35lb x 8
4p x 8

C1) Dips
bw x 10
25lb x 6
45lb x 5
70lb x 3
(told you dips sucked)

C2) Pulls/chins various grips
bw x 6, 4, 5, 6… lats fried from tbars

I have never had a burn in my tricep this deep…gah. Pain.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
I give them all white lights (#5 was close) but fuck man, get set up underneath the bar before you try to unrack it! You dropped your chest like woah[/quote]

I am very aware of my back dropping. I can’t figure out how to fix it, it’s a balance issue. I think turning my feet out and getting my legs wider might help, gonna try next time I squat. The problem is my ass sticks so far back I have to lean way forward to remain under the bar.

[quote]fr0IVIan wrote:
nice squats

what did you do differently for GM’s?[/quote]

Thanks bro.

All I did was stop trying to force myself into what’s supposed to be the right movement pattern, and just lift in a way that put pressure on my lower back. In practical terms, this meant I stopped pushing my ass out so damn far behind me (I think it was causing my knees to bend) and bent more at the waist.

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I hate hideous slow OHP. I swear I’ve fought one for five minutes before… only ultimately it won.

Was the suck.

I enjoyed your squat video and red shorts immensely

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[quote]scj119 wrote:
C1) Dips
bw x 10
25lb x 6
45lb x 5
70lb x 3
(told you dips sucked)
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Get hip to dat 180

780

So I was doing some bodyweight squats last night to see why I can’t get to parallel without leaning over so far. I think turning my feet out is goin to help big time. That way my ass isn’t so far behind me that I have to lean over to keep the bar over my feet (since I can get my knees out wider instead of in front of me).

I’ve gotten a lot more flexible than I was a few months ago when I first started tinkering with form, I think it’ll be doable. Stoked for squats next week.

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
I hate hideous slow OHP. I swear I’ve fought one for five minutes before… only ultimately it won.

Was the suck.

I enjoyed your squat video and red shorts immensely[/quote]

Yeah I need to start gettin moar vids up again. Too much text lately. Thanks though!

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]scj119 wrote:
C1) Dips
bw x 10
25lb x 6
45lb x 5
70lb x 3
(told you dips sucked)
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Get hip to dat 180[/quote]

Ok I have no idea what that means.