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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Marry your best friend and you will be happy. [/quote]

Your best friend may make more money, may make less. Shared goals, dreams and values are key, not money. You can always make money…

To those trapped in the money paradigm, what if your “best friend”, love interest, paramour, whatever, was very driven, passionate, but was let’s say an artist that didn’t make much money? Doesn’t that person have goals? Dreams? Ambition? Money doesn’t always have to be the goal…that’s an illusion. Too many of us suffer from this treadmill mentality where nothing is enough. When I started my career, I was making 23k a year…and I thought to myself, “man, when I hit 30k, I’m going to be set…gonna have this, buy that, shit will be great…ballin baby.”. When I got to 30k, I thought, “if I can just get to 40k, then I will be able to do this, and I’ll be ballin baby”…When I got to 40k, I set my sights on 60 and so forth until I flirted with six figures and then passed it with side work. Guess what? I’m not more happier, content, secure or fulfilled than when I made 23k. We are afflicted with the disease of “more”…

Goals? Dreams? Ambition? Yes, yes, yes…but if the foregoing are defined by money, you’re in for some butthurt in life. Because guess what…if it’s money, there will never be enough. Don’t believe me? Trust me, the guy chasing it making 50k is in the same exact condition as the guy making 250k chasing it…it’s just relativity. Neither is any happier than the other.

Do I want to marry a cashier with no ambition? No. But what if she’s a cashier to make ends meet while she creates beautiful works of art? What if she works at Wallmart because she spends time doing a noble job that doesn’t pay much, like working with the disabled or with children?

You cannot control how much money you make…but you can control your material desires. Ratchet down your material desires, remember what is important, and many of you will find that you make enough. I used to think that next car, that next toy, that house was going to be it…but it never ends if you’re in that mindset.

So far, people here have given extreme examples…most of which will never apply. For example, it’s unlikely X will ever find himself socially connected to the cashier at the 7-eleven.

I like BMW’s…I like to do what I want when I want. I have lots of material “likes”. But given the choice between spending my life alone or passing on a chance for love so I can drive my bmw and otherwise live a material existence pales in comparison to spending it with someone you have found a real connection and friendship with. Give me the woman I love, a smaller home, a honda and perhaps one less child.

That’s how I feel anyway, there’s a point there somewhere…lol[/quote]

If you ask me, you are still dealing with a overly entitled individual if their goal in life is to be supported by another person while they pursue their ‘gift of helping the needy.’

There is no shortage of women who’s only dream in life is to help the children and bring love and happiness to the world and in search of a wallet to fund their noble passion for not working at a real job. Every second women I’ve met in my life dreamt of getting a degree in early childhood education in order to support her goal of being a stay at home mom, professionally, regardless of the complete flood in the market of people with that ‘skillset’. What it really came down to is they were waiting for the dreamy wallet to take care of them. This ‘naturally’ nurturing and kind giving and caretaking woman isn’t real. She’s playing a role to get taken care of and not have to work hard.

On the other hand, a woman with a paycheck can do ten times more than a single volunteer by giving where it really counts: cash.

Be honest, what would you really think of a man who’s dream was to make beautiful (but probably worthless) pieces of art, while working at 7-eleven and dating women who could support this dream?

It’s not at all about the money, but about the balance of power and the balance of responsibility. And without that balance, relationships are brittle.

I love art and I am a painter (I even sell some paintings and prints) and create a lot of photographs (not just the slutty pics I post here) and I can actually call myself an artist. But there is no way I would accept that I should not pay for my pursuit of these things with my own money while my guy works at a miserable job to pay the bills.

Again, it’s not money. It’s entitlement and taking care of yourself.
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Oh, I forgot to address the balance of power comment. If that’s the way you look at relationships, you must have endured some dysfunctional ones. I assure you, a healthy relationship is not a machievallian struggle for power and territory.

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[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We grew up with the mentality and social training of finding the nuture driven wife/mother to take care of and protect. Not any more, now we need to look for that financial/social/sexual partner.

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Well said! That’s what I’ve been trying to say.[/quote]

you’re describing a merger. no new ideas there. that path has been emulated and the divorce and fidelity numbers have not improved.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Marry your best friend and you will be happy. [/quote]

Your best friend may make more money, may make less. Shared goals, dreams and values are key, not money. You can always make money…

To those trapped in the money paradigm, what if your “best friend”, love interest, paramour, whatever, was very driven, passionate, but was let’s say an artist that didn’t make much money? Doesn’t that person have goals? Dreams? Ambition? Money doesn’t always have to be the goal…that’s an illusion. Too many of us suffer from this treadmill mentality where nothing is enough. When I started my career, I was making 23k a year…and I thought to myself, “man, when I hit 30k, I’m going to be set…gonna have this, buy that, shit will be great…ballin baby.”. When I got to 30k, I thought, “if I can just get to 40k, then I will be able to do this, and I’ll be ballin baby”…When I got to 40k, I set my sights on 60 and so forth until I flirted with six figures and then passed it with side work. Guess what? I’m not more happier, content, secure or fulfilled than when I made 23k. We are afflicted with the disease of “more”…

Goals? Dreams? Ambition? Yes, yes, yes…but if the foregoing are defined by money, you’re in for some butthurt in life. Because guess what…if it’s money, there will never be enough. Don’t believe me? Trust me, the guy chasing it making 50k is in the same exact condition as the guy making 250k chasing it…it’s just relativity. Neither is any happier than the other.

Do I want to marry a cashier with no ambition? No. But what if she’s a cashier to make ends meet while she creates beautiful works of art? What if she works at Wallmart because she spends time doing a noble job that doesn’t pay much, like working with the disabled or with children?

You cannot control how much money you make…but you can control your material desires. Ratchet down your material desires, remember what is important, and many of you will find that you make enough. I used to think that next car, that next toy, that house was going to be it…but it never ends if you’re in that mindset.

So far, people here have given extreme examples…most of which will never apply. For example, it’s unlikely X will ever find himself socially connected to the cashier at the 7-eleven.

I like BMW’s…I like to do what I want when I want. I have lots of material “likes”. But given the choice between spending my life alone or passing on a chance for love so I can drive my bmw and otherwise live a material existence pales in comparison to spending it with someone you have found a real connection and friendship with. Give me the woman I love, a smaller home, a honda and perhaps one less child.

That’s how I feel anyway, there’s a point there somewhere…lol[/quote]

Well said, BG! You really cut to the bone with that one. I’ve been spending quite a bit of time and energy lately trying to figure out how to “simplify” and take money out the equation when dealing with women (and in general). I’ve been there done that with all the cars and the toys - it really doesn’t buy happiness. Great post.

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[quote]imhungry wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We grew up with the mentality and social training of finding the nuture driven wife/mother to take care of and protect. Not any more, now we need to look for that financial/social/sexual partner.

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Well said! That’s what I’ve been trying to say.[/quote]

I know I just have a few years on you and a wife who taught me how to express myself. :slight_smile: [/quote]

So, she CHANGED you!

She had to TEACH you, because you couldn’t do it on your own??

Bitches.

j/k[/quote]

:slight_smile: Yes and I taught her how to shoot a gun and sarcasm.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

To those trapped in the money paradigm, what if your “best friend”, love interest, paramour, whatever, was very driven, passionate, but was let’s say an artist that didn’t make much money? Doesn’t that person have goals? Dreams? Ambition? Money doesn’t always have to be the goal…that’s an illusion. Too many of us suffer from this treadmill mentality where nothing is enough. When I started my career, I was making 23k a year…and I thought to myself, “man, when I hit 30k, I’m going to be set…gonna have this, buy that, shit will be great…ballin baby.”. When I got to 30k, I thought, “if I can just get to 40k, then I will be able to do this, and I’ll be ballin baby”…When I got to 40k, I set my sights on 60 and so forth until I flirted with six figures and then passed it with side work. Guess what? I’m not more happier, content, secure or fulfilled than when I made 23k. We are afflicted with the disease of “more”…

Goals? Dreams? Ambition? Yes, yes, yes…but if the foregoing are defined by money, you’re in for some butthurt in life. Because guess what…if it’s money, there will never be enough. Don’t believe me? Trust me, the guy chasing it making 50k is in the same exact condition as the guy making 250k chasing it…it’s just relativity. Neither is any happier than the other.

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I don’t agree with this. We both live in NJ so we know how expensive it is to live here. I’m in Bergen/Passaic county and you can’t buy a 1500 sq ft house in a nice quiet area for under $400K. 50K per year doesn’t get you very far where I live. The difference between the guy making $50K and $250K is huge. The guy making $50K is not going to be able to raise his kids in a nice town with good educational system.

He’s not going to able to make his car, insurance and mortgage payments and be able to able to bank enough for a nice retirement. Back when I was making $50K, there was no way I could afford a $250,000 home on my home. THanks to NJ’s insane property taxes my mortgage is $2,000 month alone.

It wasn’t until I got past $80K that I could even think about buying. The guy with the $250K salary isn’t going to have the stress of making payments and is able to bank alot of that money, take vacations as often as he wants, and put his kids through college without the stresses of finding money.

The other part of statement that more you make , the more you material luxuries you end up getting is a generalization too. The extra income I make doesn’t get blown on cars or jewelry. It get’s banked, or spent on things that hold value. (ie house and adding value to house). I will admit I like to splurge on vacations but that was a given even when I made less.

I attached a picture of what I currently drive. It’s a $1,000 civic that most people would be embarassed to drive. I bought it because it had 90K miles and runs like a champ. The is indicative of the calibur of vehicle I’ve driven my whole life lol.

So for me, a wife that earns is a requirement. If she’s doing something noble, that’s fine she can still make money doing it. My girlfriend who lives with me now works with autistic children during the day. But she did it the smart way by getting a degree in Psychology thus getting her a decent paycheck while doing it. To be honest, if she did this work as a volunteer while making $8 an hour, I probably wouldn’t have given her a chance. I grew up in a family that was poor and struggled for money, I won’t raise one that has to go through the same.

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Divorce is such an ugly situation for kids. Yes…it’s better than two parents warring with each other around the kids…but there is usually one vindictice parent who is unable to put their pride aside and use the kids as pawns.

I agree that men get screwed and women get off easy. My brothers wife left him with three kids…She only paid 50.00 child support a month. She would not get a job so she wouldn’t get it increased. So 5 years later she decided she wanted the kids back, succeeded and now my brother has to pay half his paycheck for child support.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
Marry your best friend and you will be happy. [/quote]

Your best friend may make more money, may make less. Shared goals, dreams and values are key, not money. You can always make money…

To those trapped in the money paradigm, what if your “best friend”, love interest, paramour, whatever, was very driven, passionate, but was let’s say an artist that didn’t make much money? Doesn’t that person have goals? Dreams? Ambition? Money doesn’t always have to be the goal…that’s an illusion. Too many of us suffer from this treadmill mentality where nothing is enough. When I started my career, I was making 23k a year…and I thought to myself, “man, when I hit 30k, I’m going to be set…gonna have this, buy that, shit will be great…ballin baby.”. When I got to 30k, I thought, “if I can just get to 40k, then I will be able to do this, and I’ll be ballin baby”…When I got to 40k, I set my sights on 60 and so forth until I flirted with six figures and then passed it with side work. Guess what? I’m not more happier, content, secure or fulfilled than when I made 23k. We are afflicted with the disease of “more”…

Goals? Dreams? Ambition? Yes, yes, yes…but if the foregoing are defined by money, you’re in for some butthurt in life. Because guess what…if it’s money, there will never be enough. Don’t believe me? Trust me, the guy chasing it making 50k is in the same exact condition as the guy making 250k chasing it…it’s just relativity. Neither is any happier than the other.

Do I want to marry a cashier with no ambition? No. But what if she’s a cashier to make ends meet while she creates beautiful works of art? What if she works at Wallmart because she spends time doing a noble job that doesn’t pay much, like working with the disabled or with children?

You cannot control how much money you make…but you can control your material desires. Ratchet down your material desires, remember what is important, and many of you will find that you make enough. I used to think that next car, that next toy, that house was going to be it…but it never ends if you’re in that mindset.

So far, people here have given extreme examples…most of which will never apply. For example, it’s unlikely X will ever find himself socially connected to the cashier at the 7-eleven.

I like BMW’s…I like to do what I want when I want. I have lots of material “likes”. But given the choice between spending my life alone or passing on a chance for love so I can drive my bmw and otherwise live a material existence pales in comparison to spending it with someone you have found a real connection and friendship with. Give me the woman I love, a smaller home, a honda and perhaps one less child.

That’s how I feel anyway, there’s a point there somewhere…lol[/quote]

If you ask me, you are still dealing with a overly entitled individual if their goal in life is to be supported by another person while they pursue their ‘gift of helping the needy.’

There is no shortage of women who’s only dream in life is to help the children and bring love and happiness to the world and in search of a wallet to fund their noble passion for not working at a real job. Every second women I’ve met in my life dreamt of getting a degree in early childhood education in order to support her goal of being a stay at home mom, professionally, regardless of the complete flood in the market of people with that ‘skillset’. What it really came down to is they were waiting for the dreamy wallet to take care of them. This ‘naturally’ nurturing and kind giving and caretaking woman isn’t real. She’s playing a role to get taken care of and not have to work hard.

On the other hand, a woman with a paycheck can do ten times more than a single volunteer by giving where it really counts: cash.

Be honest, what would you really think of a man who’s dream was to make beautiful (but probably worthless) pieces of art, while working at 7-eleven and dating women who could support this dream?

It’s not at all about the money, but about the balance of power and the balance of responsibility. And without that balance, relationships are brittle.

I love art and I am a painter (I even sell some paintings and prints) and create a lot of photographs (not just the slutty pics I post here) and I can actually call myself an artist. But there is no way I would accept that I should not pay for my pursuit of these things with my own money while my guy works at a miserable job to pay the bills.

Again, it’s not money. It’s entitlement and taking care of yourself.
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Boy you ARE jaded. Who said anything about entitlement. Sucks to be you if you think everyone wants your money. Who said everyone wants your money? You do know there are people in this world, men and women, that are not prisoner to this material trap. I not only disagree with you, but I’m somewhat sympathetic that this is your slant. There is a big difference between someone coming at you for your wallet, and two people falling in love…in the case of the latter, I don’t care what she does, as long as we share common goals…my goals do not revolve around money. If she doesn’t have as much as me and she’s planning ways to spend MY money, I doubt that is a relationship based upon love and shared goals. [/quote]

I don’t have enough money to think anyone wants it. But that’s not my point. As far as the material trap goes, you don’t need to have a taste for expensive cars and jewelry to need a decent income. Myself, I have never owned a valuable piece jewelry in my life and my car is fairly sensible, though I rarely ever drive it.

What I’m talking about with regards to entitlement does not require a malicious and deliberate eyeballing of anyone’s wallet. It is a side effect of being socialized to not NEED to earn for yourself for all the things you desire. I was raised this way. Thankfully, for my own good I rejected it. If any person planning their future decides that they want to do volunteer work to use most of their time, they are going to need someone to pay for it. Just because they haven’t thought about it far enough ahead does not mean the guy they marry isn’t going to be paying for them. Someone HAS to pay the bills. You don’t need a large McMansion, but you do need a roof over your head.

I’ve have known MANY women whose single ambition in life was to find some guy successful enough to afford them the ability to not have to do any real work. My family is FULL of them. My cousin told her 9 year old daughter in front of me “Don’t ever marry for love. Marry for money. Love is a crock.” She has 3 daughters…err princesses… and one very sorry husband. She went to university for one year with plans of being a kindergarten teacher and dropped out when he proposed. :stuck_out_tongue:

All I’m saying is the traditional role of woman as nurturing, incapable of earning a lot but her gift is to bring love and beauty to the world, well she’s the one divorcing the guy who believed in all that fluff.

As for the power imbalance, what I’m saying is that bad relationships are full of them. In a good relationship it doesn’t exist. I think most people have endured some dysfunctional relationships and have hopefully learned from them. If they haven’t then let’s hope they get lucky :stuck_out_tongue:

But what can I say, having never been divorced and still in the same relationship for almost 16 years…

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]DJHT wrote:
We grew up with the mentality and social training of finding the nuture driven wife/mother to take care of and protect. Not any more, now we need to look for that financial/social/sexual partner.

[/quote]

Well said! That’s what I’ve been trying to say.[/quote]

you’re describing a merger. no new ideas there. that path has been emulated and the divorce and fidelity numbers have not improved. [/quote]

I was unaware that lowering divorce stats was the goal. It seems to me, mutual happiness should be the goal. It seems at the least more realistic.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

To those trapped in the money paradigm, what if your “best friend”, love interest, paramour, whatever, was very driven, passionate, but was let’s say an artist that didn’t make much money? Doesn’t that person have goals? Dreams? Ambition? Money doesn’t always have to be the goal…that’s an illusion. Too many of us suffer from this treadmill mentality where nothing is enough. When I started my career, I was making 23k a year…and I thought to myself, “man, when I hit 30k, I’m going to be set…gonna have this, buy that, shit will be great…ballin baby.”. When I got to 30k, I thought, “if I can just get to 40k, then I will be able to do this, and I’ll be ballin baby”…When I got to 40k, I set my sights on 60 and so forth until I flirted with six figures and then passed it with side work. Guess what? I’m not more happier, content, secure or fulfilled than when I made 23k. We are afflicted with the disease of “more”…

Goals? Dreams? Ambition? Yes, yes, yes…but if the foregoing are defined by money, you’re in for some butthurt in life. Because guess what…if it’s money, there will never be enough. Don’t believe me? Trust me, the guy chasing it making 50k is in the same exact condition as the guy making 250k chasing it…it’s just relativity. Neither is any happier than the other.

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I don’t agree with this. We both live in NJ so we know how expensive it is to live here. I’m in Bergen/Passaic county and you can’t buy a 1500 sq ft house in a nice quiet area for under $400K. 50K per year doesn’t get you very far where I live. The difference between the guy making $50K and $250K is huge. The guy making $50K is not going to be able to raise his kids in a nice town with good educational system.

He’s not going to able to make his car, insurance and mortgage payments and be able to able to bank enough for a nice retirement. Back when I was making $50K, there was no way I could afford a $250,000 home on my home. THanks to NJ’s insane property taxes my mortgage is $2,000 month alone.

It wasn’t until I got past $80K that I could even think about buying. The guy with the $250K salary isn’t going to have the stress of making payments and is able to bank alot of that money, take vacations as often as he wants, and put his kids through college without the stresses of finding money.

The other part of statement that more you make , the more you material luxuries you end up getting is a generalization too. The extra income I make doesn’t get blown on cars or jewelry. It get’s banked, or spent on things that hold value. (ie house and adding value to house). I will admit I like to splurge on vacations but that was a given even when I made less.

I attached a picture of what I currently drive. It’s a $1,000 civic that most people would be embarassed to drive. I bought it because it had 90K miles and runs like a champ. The is indicative of the calibur of vehicle I’ve driven my whole life lol.

So for me, a wife that earns is a requirement. If she’s doing something noble, that’s fine she can still make money doing it. My girlfriend who lives with me now works with autistic children during the day. But she did it the smart way by getting a degree in Psychology thus getting her a decent paycheck while doing it. To be honest, if she did this work as a volunteer while making $8 an hour, I probably wouldn’t have given her a chance. I grew up in a family that was poor and struggled for money, I won’t raise one that has to go through the same.[/quote]

No disrespect but I’m guessing you’re younger than me and, your perception on this is colored by your poor background. Fair enough. You will get it one day, or you will never get it - there is more than one path to happiness and it’s individual…that is if you’re truly happier with your 80k than you were with your 50k.

I don’t agree with your rebuttal though. Trust me, most of the guys making 250k or more are not being as conservative with the money as you believe. I know plenty of them. They are living in a bigger house, and have a bigger monthly nut. They are no happier than you are b/c most people, even those that make 250k, do not live comfortably within their means. He has a bigger house than you. You really think that makes him happier? These are not generalizations…you come from a poor background, so you’re conservative. Nonetheless, it wasn’t really my point…money cannot measure happiness, success or achievement.

Someone earlier in the thread made a comment about a “dead end” job. LOL. Well, any job you do not love and receive fulfillment from is a “dead end” job. Money and promotion do not rule out “dead end” job. My step father rose to CEO of a company…and it ended when the company, through no fault of his own, took a downturn. Trust me, I think he probably now believes that career of achievement he had was “dead end”. In fact, he said if he could do it over, he would have struck out on his own…to do his own thing. Every job can be a dead end job…people just don’t realize it…and most people that work for others do not like their job. Period.

Your 50k in North Jersey argument is not strong. Who says you have to live in that part of the State where you are a slave to a 1500 sq ft. home situated upon a postage stamp? I agree 50k in N. Jersey is peanuts. However, salaries in that part of the State or curved higher. I live in S. Jersey, in a similar home, situated upon 7 acres. I’ve worked and commuted to both Philadelphia AND NYC from here. People commute from Northeastern PA, the Poconos, etc. to NYC. Choices my friend…choices. You can choose to live elsewhere…money is relative, not absolute.

So all things equal, you would have passed on this wonderful woman you want to marry if she wasn’t up to par in your financial opinion, and you think that’s a wise decision? If she works with autistic kids, trust me she deserved your consideration whether she made $8/hour or $20/hour. Your problem is that you’re suffering from the illusion that there is a meaningful difference between the two. I hope it works out for you.

It should be said that most of us know that money is often the top reason for divorce. Guess what? It isn’t just poor people arguing and divorcing over money - it’s people WITH money too.

I know one thing; there are not many quality people in this world…people with passion, character, morals, etc., - when I find one, the last thing I’m worried about is how much she earns. I don’t intend to carry someone…I don’t want dead weight…but then again, someone of character and passion would never be dead weight.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
Isn’t this a form of sexism? Isn’t it downright overt? Where are the bra burners and the ball busters demanding that they be treated “equally” in family court?
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For the vast majority of them, ‘equality’ only exists when it is to their advantage. It’s human nature to do so but it is very hypocritical.

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
It’s a bullshit biased-against-men system. Anyone that say otherwise has their head up their ass.

Men typically get custody by agreement or when the woman is fucked up beyond the pale. Let’s stop acting like it’s commonplace. It is not. Shared custody is standard only if both parents are fairly local and CAN AGREE ON MAJOR PARENTING DECISIONS AND OTHERWISE COOPERATE.

The child support guidelines are biased against men. Lose your job? Fuck you - pay me. Make less money? Fuck you pay me. Don’t hold your breath waiting for this broad to spend an hour in jail. [/quote]

The states get a payment from the feds on how much child support they process through their system. Doesn’t exactly encourage justice or the best interests of the children.

I knew a dad who lost his job, got sent to jail for non support (debtors prison?) since the child support debt kept piling up, he kept getting sent to jail. Couldn’t get job because of “record” (he was network support, needed to pass background check)…

COuldn’t afford child support on what jobs he could get (cs was more then gross pay)… so back in he goes, rinse repeat…

fucking TRUTH.

don’t get me started. I went through HELL to get what little visitation I have with my kids.

big point to make… enforcing child support is relatively easy compared to enforcement of visitation. millions of fathers out there pay their child support religiously but get screwed over on visitation.

kids are 17 times more likely to be abused/molested/injured in the divorced mothers custody than the fathers. and are similarly more likely to drop out of school, get pregnant, get into drugs, etc.

but for some reason, the myth of the huge numbers of deadbeat dads has been propagated and made the conventional wisdom that mothers usually get custody and control over the majority of the parenting while disenfranchised fathers pay the bills.
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Needs agreement to get passport, I doubt she’ll grant that…

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Marry college educated asian women FTW.

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[quote]Null wrote:

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[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Null wrote:

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HEY what I wrote didn’t show…

The states get a percentage match from the feds for collecting / distributing child support. Doesn’t seem like a good way to look out for the best interests of the kids, the state has an incentive to maximize the child support payments.

Oops, just saw what I wrote, except I messed it up and put it between the quotes, so it looks like part of wha tI quoted…

DOOF!

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[quote]Null wrote:

[quote]heavythrower wrote:

[quote]Null wrote:

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HEY what I wrote didn’t show…

The states get a percentage match from the feds for collecting / distributing child support. Doesn’t seem like a good way to look out for the best interests of the kids, the state has an incentive to maximize the child support payments.

Oops, just saw what I wrote, except I messed it up and put it between the quotes, so it looks like part of wha tI quoted…

DOOF![/quote]

I thought you were making a null pointer joke.

snort

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I’m not going to go into details, but consider my words eaten.

You guys were right. I was wrong. FML

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[quote]debraD wrote:
I thought you were making a null pointer joke.

snort[/quote]

BWaAHAAHHAA!

I’m compiling a list of those.

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[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

I know one thing; there are not many quality people in this world…people with passion, character, morals, etc., - when I find one, the last thing I’m worried about is how much she earns. I don’t intend to carry someone…I don’t want dead weight…but then again, someone of character and passion would never be dead weight.
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Damn well said.

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Wow.