[quote]meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why?
Because the point that he was trying to convey was because we have morals or because we believe in evolution, G-d must exist. Huh?
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Then I guess you didn’t really stop reading at “im (sic) a christian”, liar.
DB
[quote]meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why? Some of the best philosophers in history were Christian.
And some of the best scientist Muslim. You agree with their projected current philosophy? Didn’t think so.[/quote]
I have no problem with the philosophy of peaceful Muslims. I have a problem with people abusing their positions within any church/temple/mosque by twisting the teachings of their faith to further personal agendas that are unrelated to the true tenets of their religion. Don’t be so quick to use the same brush to paint all people of a religion. I don’t believe for one second that al Qaeda or Amadenijhad or the fanatic du jour is representative of true Islam.
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I must be the Devil.
Don’t flatter yourself. You’re not that important.
I’d like you to think about the possibilities that evil men can account to. Then tell someone that their depictions of the Devil in man are not important.
“The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn’t exist.” - Charles Baudelaire
More philosophy. Man is inherently evil. [/quote]
Yeah, yeah. I had to sit through PHI 101 as well. A little life lesson for you: if and when you ever have a child, the very first time you hold it and see it looking up at you, see if you can view that child as being evil.
See my point above relative to religion and atrocities committed in their name.
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
if and when you ever have a child, the very first time you hold it and see it looking up at you, see if you can view that child as being evil.[/quote]
Then ask yourself the same question while changing his first overflowing diaper.
[quote]abcd1234 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why? Some of the best philosophers in history were Christian.
And some of the best scientist Muslim. You agree with their projected current philosophy? Didn’t think so.
Ever heard of people like Kant, Descartes, or Berkely? Too bad for you, as their ideas shaped modern philosophy and they were Christian.
What is it with this twat?
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Personally, I think the only philosophy he’s ever read is the Wikipedia page on Nihilism. And even then, I don’t think he read it very well.
Meangenes,
How does your comment that “man is inherently evil” square with Nihilism?
ok let me explain a bit further my point
first of all, when i started having the whole teenager wondering about the world life etc, i realized at some point what a lot of philosophers say. that i didnt know anything. fast forwarding, now i dont just believe that God exists, i know. no i dont have proof to show you, what most people would consider proof, Jesus Himself told people when He did miracles for them NOT to tell anyone about them.
anyway, there is a small difference in being certain that God exists and that God doesnt exist.
if God does exist, cant He make people know that He does? of course He can. i believe thats the case with me.
if He doesnt exist, then obviously im stupid to be certain that He does exist.
now the difference is that
if God doesnt exist, then its just yourself and your mind that have convinced yourself that He doesnt.
the same applies in the case that He does exist, unless for some reason He made you believe He doesnt exist, which i doubt but anyway.
now dont get me wrong, im sure that one can be certain that God exists cause they have convinced themselves using their mind, BUT its also possible that if God does exist that He lets us know in some way that we cant understand.
thats the difference, believing that He does NOT exist doesnt have something… “allpowerful” to confirm that you are right.
i think we are saying the same thing really. except I whether i knew God or not, would find the points in life… less real or important like you said.
the more you focus and i guess WISH for something the more your mind will find it important. its kinda obvious that the mind would do that. the mind is a lot more like a computer machine rather than something “free” that can think well… not like a machine… not digitally but analogically. it certainly can but not as much as most people think.
i personally even use/abuse that something you probably wouldnt hear from christians… or most anyone really.
anyway thats kinda out of the topic haha
[quote]pookie wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
if and when you ever have a child, the very first time you hold it and see it looking up at you, see if you can view that child as being evil.
Then ask yourself the same question while changing his first overflowing diaper.
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I don’t think that would make the child evil - just not human.
[quote]IvanDmitritch wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why? Some of the best philosophers in history were Christian.
And some of the best scientist Muslim. You agree with their projected current philosophy? Didn’t think so.
Ever heard of people like Kant, Descartes, or Berkely? Too bad for you, as their ideas shaped modern philosophy and they were Christian.
What is it with this twat?
Personally, I think the only philosophy he’s ever read is the Wikipedia page on Nihilism. And even then, I don’t think he read it very well.
Meangenes,
How does your comment that “man is inherently evil” square with Nihilism?
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In the same way that IvanDmitritch is a cunt. Why don’t you chill with the personal attacks you.
I don’t know. Maybe it doesn’t square with Nihilism but it squares with the fact that I can believe that you’re a complete cockbreath and no-one would ever really know how many dicks you have sucked.
What do your lifts look like? I’ll be hard pressed to find a homo that can out lift me.
Hahahahaha
[quote]IvanDmitritch wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why? Some of the best philosophers in history were Christian.
And some of the best scientist Muslim. You agree with their projected current philosophy? Didn’t think so.
Ever heard of people like Kant, Descartes, or Berkely? Too bad for you, as their ideas shaped modern philosophy and they were Christian.
What is it with this twat?
Personally, I think the only philosophy he’s ever read is the Wikipedia page on Nihilism. And even then, I don’t think he read it very well.
Meangenes,
How does your comment that “man is inherently evil” square with Nihilism?
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[quote]meangenes wrote:
IvanDmitritch wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why? Some of the best philosophers in history were Christian.
And some of the best scientist Muslim. You agree with their projected current philosophy? Didn’t think so.
Ever heard of people like Kant, Descartes, or Berkely? Too bad for you, as their ideas shaped modern philosophy and they were Christian.
What is it with this twat?
Personally, I think the only philosophy he’s ever read is the Wikipedia page on Nihilism. And even then, I don’t think he read it very well.
Meangenes,
How does your comment that “man is inherently evil” square with Nihilism?
In the same way that IvanDmitritch is a cunt. Why don’t you chill with the personal attacks.
I don’t know. Maybe it doesn’t square with Nihilism but it squares with the fact that I can believe that you’re a complete cockbreath and no-one would ever really know how many dicks you have sucked.
What do your lifts look like? I’ll be hard pressed to find a homo that can out lift me.
Hahahahaha[/quote]
Lol…I think I struck a nerve! You’re a funny guy, meangenes! Great thread!
I tend to have an athiest, view on life. i question my existance everyday.I realize my life is ticking away by the second. But at least I didn’t start a pissing contest on the internet 
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
I tend to have an athiest view on life. i question my existance everyday.I realize my life is ticking away by the second. But at least I didn’t start a pissing contest on the internet :)[/quote]
Pissing contest? As in expressing comparison of your beliefs with an others? You might have just contradicted yourself.
[quote]IvanDmitritch wrote:
meangenes wrote:
IvanDmitritch wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why? Some of the best philosophers in history were Christian.
And some of the best scientist Muslim. You agree with their projected current philosophy? Didn’t think so.
Ever heard of people like Kant, Descartes, or Berkely? Too bad for you, as their ideas shaped modern philosophy and they were Christian.
What is it with this twat?
Personally, I think the only philosophy he’s ever read is the Wikipedia page on Nihilism. And even then, I don’t think he read it very well.
Meangenes,
How does your comment that “man is inherently evil” square with Nihilism?
In the same way that IvanDmitritch is a cunt. Why don’t you chill with the personal attacks.
I don’t know. Maybe it doesn’t square with Nihilism but it squares with the fact that I can believe that you’re a complete cockbreath and no-one would ever really know how many dicks you have sucked.
What do your lifts look like? I’ll be hard pressed to find a homo that can out lift me.
Hahahahaha
Lol…I think I struck a nerve! You’re a funny guy, meangenes! Great thread!
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Not really. I just wanted to call you some names. No harm. Cocksucker.
[quote]Bitchboy-Acebgd12 wrote:
Cocksucking-IvanDmitritch wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
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[/your life] already. Can’t stand an others opinion? Kill yourself now, otherwise you’re going to get killed for saying something stupid to someone who knows that you should have killed yourself a long time ago. Basically.
Maybe I’m not Nihilist then. Cool. Couldn’t wait to be non-Nihilist. Further affirms my belief that I believe whatever the fuck I want. You kids are such conservative little homos.
[quote]meangenes wrote:
IvanDmitritch wrote:
meangenes wrote:
IvanDmitritch wrote:
abcd1234 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
meangenes wrote:
im a christian
I stopped reading there.
Why? Some of the best philosophers in history were Christian.
And some of the best scientist Muslim. You agree with their projected current philosophy? Didn’t think so.
Ever heard of people like Kant, Descartes, or Berkely? Too bad for you, as their ideas shaped modern philosophy and they were Christian.
What is it with this twat?
Personally, I think the only philosophy he’s ever read is the Wikipedia page on Nihilism. And even then, I don’t think he read it very well.
Meangenes,
How does your comment that “man is inherently evil” square with Nihilism?
In the same way that IvanDmitritch is a cunt. Why don’t you chill with the personal attacks you faggot.
I don’t know. Maybe it doesn’t square with Nihilism but it squares with the fact that I can believe that you’re a complete cockbreath and no-one would ever really know how many dicks you have sucked.
What do your lifts look like? I’ll be hard pressed to find a homo that can out lift me.
Hahahahaha
Lol…I think I struck a nerve! You’re a funny guy, meangenes! Great thread!
Not really. I just wanted to call you some names. No harm. Cocksucker.[/quote]
It’s cool, bro. I understand your need for psychological projection; I’m sure latent homosexuality is a difficult thing to deal with.
You must know from experience.
[quote]meangenes wrote:
zephead4747 wrote:
I tend to have an athiest view on life. i question my existance everyday.I realize my life is ticking away by the second. But at least I didn’t start a pissing contest on the internet
Pissing contest? As in expressing comparison of your beliefs with an others? You might have just contradicted yourself.[/quote]
No dipshit, You compare your lifts to other people’s when they disagree with you as if it validates a point, when in fact every other poster here is clearly vastly more intelligent then you. You seriously think you see the big picture to life, and you think you’re special. Guess what? You’re not. Get the fuck over yourself. Seriously you are one raged crying twat,e-thug, keyboard warrior,ect.
go slit.
Snagged. So my beliefs are like, not superior to everyone else’s? Damnit. I only fight images I can see. Your imaginary beliefs only further affirm that the rest of society projects Matrix-like compositions that live in your brain only. Delusional? Nah, I think not. Self affirming? Without a doubt. Built of the same life force as subjects such as self confidence, self reflection, realization, and complete coherence with selflessness.
Wrap your little consciousness around that. Douchebag.
You definitely just contradicted yourself, you conservative little test tube cum bubble. Pull your plugs.
It looks like someone got a dictionary for their birthday.
[quote]lordstorm88 wrote:
ok let me explain a bit further my point
first of all, when i started having the whole teenager wondering about the world life etc, i realized at some point what a lot of philosophers say. that i didnt know anything. fast forwarding, now i dont just believe that God exists, i know. no i dont have proof to show you, what most people would consider proof, Jesus Himself told people when He did miracles for them NOT to tell anyone about them.
anyway, there is a small difference in being certain that God exists and that God doesnt exist.
if God does exist, cant He make people know that He does? of course He can. i believe thats the case with me.
if He doesnt exist, then obviously im stupid to be certain that He does exist.
now the difference is that
if God doesnt exist, then its just yourself and your mind that have convinced yourself that He doesnt.
the same applies in the case that He does exist, unless for some reason He made you believe He doesnt exist, which i doubt but anyway.
now dont get me wrong, im sure that one can be certain that God exists cause they have convinced themselves using their mind, BUT its also possible that if God does exist that He lets us know in some way that we cant understand.
thats the difference, believing that He does NOT exist doesnt have something… “allpowerful” to confirm that you are right.
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Sorry man, but once again your logic is flawed. What you are doing is assuming that your religious belief implies morality or “rightness”. It does not. Not-believing in idea A is no more or less right than Believing in idea A (as long as A is an agreed upon religion or philosophy. I am happy for you that you have found religion and it makes you happy. I think religion is great for some people. But don’t you dare look down your nose at someone else because they don’t have “Divine Right” on their side. Christianity has tried that many times (certain sects anyway) and none have turned out very good. See: The Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, witch hunts, KKK lynch rallies, etc. Of course it’s easy to recognize when other people do that that it’s wrong (aka modern jihad movement). It’s only one step further to put the torch to an ideal.
To put things in perspective, how many thousands of different religions and belief structures have existed since the dawn of man? Even though you have the answer, how can you possibly know that your god is the right God, when so many people have believed differently than you? You just know right? It is the same way for non-believers. I just know that there isn’t.
In closing: non-believers do have something arguably “all-powerful” on their side. We call it “science” and it is the source of most of the good things in today’s civilization (modern medicine, advanced agriculture, vaccinations …).
WHAT! GET OFF ME!
I figured I’d rub it in a little. I’ll be awaiting a reply when I get back from the grocery store.