I say fuck Seatle → Denver is going to it all
Randman,
I’ll give you the fact that Peyton didn’t exactly have a stellar game. But there are 11 people out on the field at anyone time playing for a team. If the O-line doesn’t get it done, peyton will damn sure have a hard time getting it done, especially against one of the best front 7 in the league.
Same goes for the Wr’s, running back whatever. Blame that game on peyton all you want. He wasn’t the only one out there that sucked it up on sunday. Everyone contributed, obviously they didn’t contribute enough.
If you really want to place some blame, why don’t you blame the coach. The one who didn’t gameplan enough and didn’t make a plan for all the contingencies that might occur? If anyone gets blamed for the loss it should be the coaching staff of the Colts. They got outplayed by their counterparts.
I am so glad the Patriota are going the hell home. If I had to listen to one more freakin Brady orgasm, I would have killed a baby cat.
There is no Dynasty in N.E.
As for the rest of the playoffs - I think Seattle wil beat the Panthers. Their linbackers will have trouble if Shaun Alexander can come back from his concussion.
I think it’s the Broncos’ AFC championship to lose. Pittsburgh is not that good, and will be noticeably out coached by Shanahan.
In the Super Bowl - this is the year of the Seahawk. Seatle will win going away.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
There is no Dynasty in N.E.[/quote]
Are you saying that their last 4 years weren’t a dynasty or are you saying that dynasty is now over?
Because if you’re saying the former, i’m just going to have to laugh. =D
As for my picks, i’m going with Denver (mostly because I can’t stand Pittsburgh even more than I can’t stand Denver) and the Seahawks in the SuperBowl.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
I am so glad the Patriota are going the hell home. If I had to listen to one more freakin Brady orgasm, I would have killed a baby cat.
There is no Dynasty in N.E.
As for the rest of the playoffs - I think Seattle wil beat the Panthers. Their linbackers will have trouble if Shaun Alexander can come back from his concussion.
I think it’s the Broncos’ AFC championship to lose. Pittsburgh is not that good, and will be noticeably out coached by Shanahan.
In the Super Bowl - this is the year of the Seahawk. Seatle will win going away. [/quote]
No Dynasty in NE? How does winning three out of four in the NFL’s current state of parody not come off as some sort of dynasty? They were/are a bunch of overacheving semi-athletic individuals who simply executed plays to perfection and out prepared their opponets. Like them or not, you MUST give them credit. If it were not for their own mistakes (not Denver’s play) that dynasty may have very well continued. Brady’s 9-1 record in postseason play is no joke.
I am also sick of hearing about Brady.
He is a very good QB when given incredible protection. When the protection breaks down he is helpless.
It kind of reminds me of Payton Manning.
If you stuck either of these QBs behind a lousy line they would no longer be great. It makes you wonder how many other “great” ones are out there.
[quote]JokerFMJ wrote:
rainjack wrote:
There is no Dynasty in N.E.
Are you saying that their last 4 years weren’t a dynasty or are you saying that dynasty is now over?
Because if you’re saying the former, i’m just going to have to laugh. =D
As for my picks, i’m going with Denver (mostly because I can’t stand Pittsburgh even more than I can’t stand Denver) and the Seahawks in the SuperBowl.
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What he meant was that NE will now NOT be considered the greatest dynasty of all time which is what would have happened if they won the Super Bowl again this year.
Rainjack, just thnk. The Patriots are well under cap space for next year. They will come back a stronger team. If they win another Superbowl or two in the next three years they will STILL be considered the greatest dynasty of all time. I wouldn’t count out Brady on getting more rings soon.
Don’t you just love Tom Brady, New England, and all the fans? Come on, come out of the closet and profess your undying love for all things NE football.
[quote]jimmyjames66 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I am so glad the Patriota are going the hell home. If I had to listen to one more freakin Brady orgasm, I would have killed a baby cat.
There is no Dynasty in N.E.
As for the rest of the playoffs - I think Seattle wil beat the Panthers. Their linbackers will have trouble if Shaun Alexander can come back from his concussion.
I think it’s the Broncos’ AFC championship to lose. Pittsburgh is not that good, and will be noticeably out coached by Shanahan.
In the Super Bowl - this is the year of the Seahawk. Seatle will win going away.
No Dynasty in NE? How does winning three out of four in the NFL’s current state of parody not come off as some sort of dynasty? They were/are a bunch of overacheving semi-athletic individuals who simply executed plays to perfection and out prepared their opponets. Like them or not, you MUST give them credit. If it were not for their own mistakes (not Denver’s play) that dynasty may have very well continued. Brady’s 9-1 record in postseason play is no joke. [/quote]
Mark that 10-1 record. Tom Brady now owns the record for the most consecutive playoff wins at 10. Rainjack loves these type of facts.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I am also sick of hearing about Brady.
He is a very good QB when given incredible protection. When the protection breaks down he is helpless.
It kind of reminds me of Payton Manning.
If you stuck either of these QBs behind a lousy line they would no longer be great. It makes you wonder how many other “great” ones are out there.
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You can say whatever you want. He still OWNS the record for the most consecutive playoff victories over all of the great quarterbacks of the last half century. Chalk it up to O line all you want, it’s humorous when you do so.
He is a good QB that has had a lot of things go right for him.
I hate when they talk up how good a QB is when he has all day to throw.
There was this guy in that played for the Titans named Steve McNair. Anyone remeber him? He used to be able to take a nap in the pocket and he won the MVP.
A few years later his line sucks and he becomes ineffective when he can stay healthy.
Football is a team game. QBs get too much credit when they win and too much blame when they lose.
You could easily blame Brady for this loss. He threw two bad costly picks and had a lot of horrible throws.
He racked up a lot of junky yards but couldn’t get them in the endzone.
I don’t personally don’t blame Brady for the loss just like I don’t give him too much credit when they win.
[quote]randman wrote:
Chalk it up to O line all you want, it’s humorous when you do so.
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Granted, Bret Favre is getting older by NFL standards, but he had an absolutely terrible season and I would credit the team’s management for most of it after getting rid of the team’s only two pro bowl linemen in the off season.
There are a number of factors in a quarterback’s success, but don’t be so quick to discount the role of a good line.
[quote]jimmyjames66 wrote:
No Dynasty in NE? How does winning three out of four in the NFL’s current state of parody not come off as some sort of dynasty? They were/are a bunch of overacheving semi-athletic individuals who simply executed plays to perfection and out prepared their opponets. Like them or not, you MUST give them credit. If it were not for their own mistakes (not Denver’s play) that dynasty may have very well continued. Brady’s 9-1 record in postseason play is no joke. [/quote]
I definately do not like the Patriots, but I cannot disagree with what you wrote, no matter how much I’d like to.
The no NE dynasty was a reference to an agreement that Randman and I had about the quality of the NE dynasty.
They are less than the Cowboys, and that is the only measuring stick that should be used.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I am also sick of hearing about Brady.
He is a very good QB when given incredible protection. When the protection breaks down he is helpless.
It kind of reminds me of Payton Manning.
If you stuck either of these QBs behind a lousy line they would no longer be great. It makes you wonder how many other “great” ones are out there.
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The real great ones make the people around them aspire to become great.
i would hardly call 3 super bowl wins by a combined 9 points a dynasty.
niners > steelers > cowboys > patriots as far as the dynasty list goes…
[quote]El_Animal wrote:
Out of who’s left, you do you think will realistically win? Not who you hope will win but your honest opnions on the best teams left.
I think it will be
Panthers > Seahawks
Steelers > Broncos
Dicuss[/quote]
Denver will beat the Steelers. Seahawks will beat the Panthers. Denver will beat Seattle in the Superbowl.
In my opinion no one in the NFC could beat any of the AFC contenders. The AFC championship game will be better than the SuperBowl.
[quote]Diomede wrote:
i would hardly call 3 super bowl wins by a combined 9 points a dynasty.
niners > steelers > cowboys > patriots as far as the dynasty list goes…[/quote]
I don’t care if they won by a combined 3 points in 3 super bowls. They still won 3 superbowls in 4 years. That is a dynasty. No matter what your troll-like opinion is. It’s not up for debate. NE Patriots will forever be etched in stone as a dynasty. And trust me, they’re not done yet…They still have the capability of being the greatest dynasty ever if they can eke out one or two more superbowls in the next few years.
You are idiots.
Broncos WILL win the Super Bowl.
I got money on it.
[quote]Diomede wrote:
i would hardly call 3 super bowl wins by a combined 9 points a dynasty.
niners > steelers > cowboys > patriots as far as the dynasty list goes…[/quote]
If you are going to list dynasties, you probably shouldn’t forget the Packers or Browns.
[quote]randman wrote:
WOrta1128 wrote:
That game was on the offensive line, not Peyton Manning. No one, not manning, not Marino, not Montana, Namath, not Aikman, can be expected to throw quality passes with four or five defensive players bearing down on him. And yet, he was still able to throw for 290 yards. His performance was a result of poor offensive line play and poor coaching to counter Pittsburgh’s defensive scheme.
When your done sucking his dick. Read these:
Face it ? Peyton can?t win the big one
Colts’ Manning Shows Us Why He’s No Tom Brady: Scott Soshnick
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_soshnick&sid=aU1_RApWE8Xg
Manning can’t win a big one
http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/13635295.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_sports
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Personally, I could care less if they lost. I’m a Cowboy fan. My team was out a long time ago. I’d just hate to see another Marino situation. Don’t count him out just yet man. He’s got an amazing team around him, and he’s the best quarterback in the league, hands down. Remember Elway and the Broncos? And they played the same kind of football that the Colts play. They had a bad game. It happens. They’ll take it all next year, but only if they resign Wayne and James.